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I have about 1 more track day left and I'm due for a new set of wheels. My current setup is on my stock '10 Sports Rays: Bridgestone Potenza RE-11:
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I have about 1 more track day left and I'm due for a new set of wheels.
My current setup is on my stock '10 Sports Rays: Bridgestone Potenza RE-11: Front: 265/35 R19 - $322/ea Rear: 285/35 R19 - $313/ea Total: $1329 I love the RE-11s. The stock RE50A I was able to get more miles compared to the RE11s, but for about 3000 miles less, the car sticks to the ground thru track SOOO MUCH Better. It handles really really well dry. I track my car 4-6 times a year, I rarely drive my car as it costs a lot in gas and tires. I only drive my car once or twice throughout the week if I work on weekends or if it rains. Normally I ride my CBR to work. I am having a wedding this coming summer so I'm trying to make the best decision with how I'll spend my money for the next set of tires and possibly a new set of wheels. I'm looking to spend about $1,600-$1,800 at most. Option 1: My initial thoughts are to get a set of used 18's that'll be dedicated for track. I'll prolly get some Hankook RS3s or RE-11s and try to hold out as much as I can with my current set of RE-11s and when it's due, I'll get a set of cheaper & less grippage tires like Hankook Ventus Evo V12. Pro: -I was thinking of upping the rear width from 10" to 10.5". -Cheaper tires -Better handling for track? Con: -For some decent looking wheels may cost more than my budget and may be heavier than my Stock Forged Rays unless I fork out a lot of money. Option 2: My second thoughts were to buy a set of used Sport Rays 19" with tires. I see a member selling a set w/ RE50A of 3500 miles for ~$1,600. This will temporarily hold me up and will allow me to have 2 sets of tires. 1 set of Grippy tires and 1 set of daily driving if needed that'll last me longer. Pro: -Looks good and are considered to be pretty good wheels (i.e. Forged, Rays, etc) -Probably easier to obtain a great deal -Tires will come with the package Con: -I'm stuck with stock widths, limitations of going more aggressive -19" will cost more in the long run and I assume it's a less desirable for track as it weighs and cost more than 18" Option 3: Buy another set of RE11's or Hankook RS3 Pros: -Probably the cheapest option for now Cons: -In the long run I am still in the same boat and be tracking on 19". -I won't have set of dedicated tires/wheels for track and everyday driving, I would prefer to have something that can give me longer range for street. My RE-11 allows me to get less than 12K miles. I know it's a lengthly post, but any advice would be appreciated! I'm open to hear any experience you guys have/had. ~Cheers |
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With the RE11, your annual tire expense is $1200 and you probably get one year on them.
With a set of 18s, your initial investment will be like $1200 for the 18" wheels, $1100 for the 18" racing tires (2 years) and $1000 for your daily driver tires (2 to 3 years). Just don't buy 19" rims unless you plan to spend $1300 on Hoosier R6, very limited tire in that size |
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Options, options, options...
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Racing Tires ~$600/yr + Street Tires ~$400/yr (assuming 2.5 yrs), but I have to fork out initially for another set of 18" rims. I'll do some research on wheels first, hopefully I can find something decent used. Cossie, I never owned a set of R Compound tires. In an ideal world, I'd love to track on R Compound, esp if that's the whole reason of owning another set of wheels so I could have a dedicated set of track tires & street tires. But what do you think about tracking on Extreme Max Summer tires? Will it be more cost effective? I assume I'll get more track days with Extreme Max Summers over R Compound but I wonder if it'll be a more cost effective way? I ask this simply because I currently drive my car to the track. Thunderhill Raceway ~170 mi. one way, and Laguna Seca ~100 mi. one way and I don't have a truck/trailer. Also, I have my camber set at -2.5 degree front and -1.8 rear. 0 toe front and factory setting rear. I would be concern I'd wear out the R Compound tire greatly just getting to the track. Last edited by scruffydog; 12-10-2012 at 01:28 PM. |
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just picked up some te37sl's in 18" and im using the nitto nt05 and i can get tires for less than a grand. im running 295/35/18 and 285/35/18.
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If you only care about racing and not looks, buy the cheapest lightest thing. I think you can get some 20lbs TSW/Enkei for <$250. Z is tough to find used due to the size and offset. I bought an extra set of 19s, but I can't find tires for it without spending $1200!!! I ended up using the 19s for snow tires. If you can justify the cost of 19" tires, buy the S tune wheels for $800. If you have no trailer, do not buy R comps. You will burnt those tires off. In your situation, you are probably stuck with the RE11s or the RS3 for now. If you are going to get another set of RE11s, just buy 285s in the front. It's the reason why I built a trailer hitch for my car even though most people says I shouldn't. There is no such thing as cost effective racing. What you can do is buy used tires if you want to save. If you browse around ebay, you will find some 285 35 19 for about $100 a pop with about 75% tread. You can piece yourself a set together if you are patient enough. RS3 are a lot harder to come by used. Quote:
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![]() but I'm just dreaming now when I look back at my budget. What typical offsets would you recommend me going with? I have a buddy with a E92 M3 and he's doing the exact same thing. He bought a set of cheap 18" and runs RS3 he upped the width to 10.5 in the rear. What are the offsets you recommend to go with that'll clear the sport calipers? Should I go with F:18x9.5 R: 18x10.5? Quote:
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I also heard RS3s are much cheaper and handles better when warmed up, is that true? I'm also considering over the RE-11s. Quote:
I really appreciate you taking the effort in writing back, it helps a lot! Time to hit up the classified sections....cheers! Last edited by scruffydog; 12-10-2012 at 05:35 PM. |
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This is what I got. ![]() Regarding the size, ideally I would like 305s all around, but I am not sure if it is possible to run that big on a stock Z or even a mild modded Z without any fender or body modification, plus you would need some crazy wheels to get that. Also just as a tip, a lot of the size in 18s will result in a car that is too low. Car might start scrapping everywhere without the right suspension. This is how low a car with 285/35/19 can get under braking, imagine running an inch smaller with the 285/35/18s ![]() Yes I run 285s on my car, been doing it for nearly two years now. The car just drives better. The steering might be heavier, but it feels better and it is faster. ![]() The trailer is nice, I don't use it as much as I should as I still don't have the R comps I want yet. I do have to rework it as I might skip on the RE11 next season and go straight to R comps. It all depends on what I have to pay to the government in Feb. ![]() It wouldn't surprise me that the RS-3 is faster, but they don't come in 285/35/19. I do not want to run a tire that is too small as I know the front lip will get scraped every time under braking. My daily driver was a Prius, the OEM tires lasted 40K miles. Kid, marriage and dogs, I got those. That's why I have to do things on a budget too. You can ask your fiance if she wants to do this to the Prius ![]() Last edited by cossie1600; 12-11-2012 at 01:07 AM. |
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If I were in your shoes, I'd spend it on a reasonably priced tires on the stock 19's and bank what's left over for a dedicated track tire/wheels set. Hold out and get every mile out of your current set. You could also go the opposite route and make the stock 19's your dedicated track set....then save up for an even nicer set for street use.
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