I'm sorry but that left rear is definitely a different color, it's not lighting. Don't accept it. Either make them replace both rears, or make them take back the whole set. Don't pay for shipping on any of it either. They know they made a mistake here, and they should be willing to correct it. If not, take them to a small claims court over it.

:iagree:

Oh and what's up with the lugnut thing? The holes are a different shape than the stock wheels, and thus don't fit the stock lugnuts? Mike, you've installed F-14's on your car already, but with those open-ended racing nuts IIRC. Did you ever get to try the stock nuts on them?

No I didn't ever try the stock lugs. Aparently they are too big for the holes according to Dave. Not unusual for an aftermarket wheel not to accomodate stock logs, especially the monsters that come on the Z.

I don't really care one way or the other, I just want to be prepared rather than surprised when I show up at the tire/wheel place to get everything mounted up. Does anyone know of a specific model number for lugs that will work on F-14s on the 370Z?

Yeah that was my fault I suppose. Looking at it, I thought the stock lugs might work, but I didn't try so I haven't been letting people know that they will need aftermarket lugs.

Anyways, most any aftermarket lugs will probably work. Its the flange washer thing on the stock lugs thats the problem. Any Rays/Project Kics/Muteki lugs will be find. Thread pitch is M12x1.25 for the Z.

I got muteki lugs from DDM

Did they sell you a mixed set of used wheels? 4 wheels painted or powdercoated together at the same time should all be the same color, and the scratched lug holes are unsat, unless they told you they were selling you used wheels.

F that man... I was hoping that these guys would be legit - I was going to place an order kinda soon - but guess ill be waiting on finding some volks instead... sad...

Forgestar is rectifying the situation by allowing me to ship them back for a full refund, but that is not what I really want to do. I really just want two new rear wheels that match the front because I really do like these wheels and they are a great buy. The left rear isn't that much of a different color, but it is a little darker than the front wheels, and I just can't live with that. The blemishes alone on the left rear should be enough for them to take the wheels back, though because I was expecting a "brand new" set of wheels. Mike, you are right. They look like a mixed set of used wheels, which is not what I paid for. If Forgestar was willing to provide me with two brand new rear wheels that match the front then I would be a content customer (except for having to wait almost 10 weeks by the time they would have arrived).

Mike at DDM is right about the lugnuts. It is that huge washer/flange thing on the stock lugnuts that causes the problem. The stock lugnuts would fit if it weren't for that.

Thanks for all of the positive feedback guys. At times I thought maybe I was seeing things (at least with the left rear) or being too pushy requesting that two new rears be made for me.

They should be rectifying the situation by giving you what you paid for OR allowing you to just return it all for a full refund. It shouldn't be "well, if you don't like it return it". They obviously screwed up here. The right rear is hideously different. Even the left rear would drive me F'n bonkers!

:iagree:

bad business practice to basically say "F-it, I don't want to fix it just send them back"

Wow, very disappointed @ Forgestar Rims...
This is making me reconsider and why the hell are they giving you an attitude?
I guess they don't need our business if they acted that way to you and they messed up.
They should've even offered to replace those rear's.
Messed up in my opinion and Caravanshaka, I hope all goes well with your shipment.
I will wait to see what happens to you before I make my final choice.

Keep in mind this is just one incident though. Sometimes miscommunications happen, bad things happen, blah blah. I meant what I said above about the guy with the problem wheels not accepting it in his case, but my order with them still stands, unless I see this develop into a pattern rather than an isolated incident.

Hopefully you wont be the next one that starts the pattern.

This is very true. It could be that this is a case of me being that one person who gets a raw deal and has a bad experience with them. I think that I am the first person to get a set of F-14s on his 370z besides Mike @ DDM, so hopefully, like joshj808 said, this is not going to be the start of a trend when others start receiving their wheels.

Well, forgestar told DDmotorsports to tell people 2-3 weeks for their wait time to get wheels. Took Dave384 over 6 weeks for his wheels to be delivered, and they were done poorly. His I believe whas DDM's first order for the F14's besides his own wheels. That being said, I ordered mine on Monday June 8th, it is now July 9th and still no wheels. Last update DDM got on my order was that they were just now calling the pinstriper to setup and appointment. over 2 weeks ago my wheels were finished except for the pinstripe and the lug holes weren't drilled yet. 2 WEEKS AGO, and they are just now setting up the appointment with the pinstriper....

I have been very unimpressed with forgestar up to this point. Frankly, I'm going to keep the ups guy here when they arrive so I can check them out. If there is anything wrong with them they are getting returned to sender and I'm getting my money back.

I agree, that this is one incident as far as quality goes. There have been a lot of poeple who have gotten Forgestar wheels in all colors that are more than happy with them. Their blog is full of cars with Forgestars on them. The two sets that I have gotten personally have been perfect. The delay times are a whole other issue that nobody is happy about and Forgestar knows it. They are just going through the growing pains of being a new company that had quick success. Back when I first became a Forgestar dealer and ordered my set, wheels were taking 2-3 weeks, sometimes even less. Once they signed up more dealers and started getting their wheels on different cars for people to see it snowballed and they were flooded with orders. Needless to say, now I am quoting a longer wait time. I am not trying to make excuses for them, but it is an unfortunate side effect of a growing business that expanded too quickly for what they were prepared for. I know that Forgestar is just as frustrated with the delays as we are.

well said Mike!

I can vouch for these wheels...i've seen them up close and in person on Mike's car...I hope they can get this figured out quickly as they are a company with a lot of potential!

I was actually looking to run the same exact wheels on my platinum graphite 370Z (nice car btw). I think I'll just get some Nismo wheels or something else.

I'm hoping I am happy with the product to be honest. I love the style and I've seen the pictures of the quality on your wheels. However, like you said, when you were ordering your wheels they weren't taking long and they were coming out perfect. Maybe now with the increased pressure of a backlog to fulfill, they are having QA issues.

I have been trying to have patience with the wait, but that is definitely wearing off at this point. I'm glad you are telling people with newer orders that the wait time will be longer, at least you won't have to deal with as many complaints as I'm sure you are dealing with right now.

Quality
Speed
Price

Pick two, as the saying goes...

39 days and counting, Guess the UPS guy will have to enjoy an Icetea while I inspect the rims before he leaves.

Just to update everyone, I received my prepaid packing slips from Forgestar yesterday and got the wheels dismounted today. I decided to take some pictures of all the wheels side by side from various vantage points to show the differences. I tried to make sure that all the wheels had an even overlay of light on them so that the true differences could be seen and sunlight would not play a part.

Just to clear up any confusion. The two choices I was given were to replace ONLY the right rear (RR) [not the left rear (LR)] or send all of the wheels back. I chose to send all of the wheels back for reasons obvious in the pictures even though I am out a total of $120 for twice mounting/dismounting.

Once again, they are very nice wheels, and I would have been okay with any one of the colors that I was presented with. I just wanted all of them to be the same color. ;)

From left to right (RR, LR, front wheels)
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9900/wheels1.jpg

From top to bottom (RR, LR, front wheels)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/477/25958253.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7083/36120541.jpg

From left to right (RR, LR)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7079/31231574.jpg

From left to right (LR, front)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/348/96347971.jpg

Front wheels
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8427/50361685.jpg

wow...I'd say that is pretty obvious

man, that sucks. Feel for you, because I know how much I love my F14's. I would see if they can work something out for you....worth asking before shipping back. i know its a pain to go through customer service

**** that!

Yerppppppp!

What happened to the pics, imageshack having a problem?

It appears ImageShack has been hacked lol...

ImageShack Hacked by Anti-sec Movement

:bowrofl::rofl2::bowrofl:

I did talk to them to see what they could do. I was under the impression for about 2 weeks that they were replacing both of the rear wheels, and I was a happy camper except for the additional wait time. I later found out that they only intended to replace the one rear wheel, though. They said they would NOT replace both rear wheels. They must not have agreed that both of the rear wheels were different colors than the front. Granted, I didn't show them these most recent photos because I didn't have the wheels off the car until today. Believe me, I didn't want to have to ship the wheels back because that ultimately costs me more money in mounting/dismounting. It was the only option I was left with, though, because I wasn't going to drive the car around with one wheel that was a different color than the rest.

Damn, I feel your pain. You should def show them this latest batch of pictures in hopes of persuading them otherwise before shipping. Its pretty damn obvious.

Holy **** man - those are obviously different! sucks dude... but hope all works out - would be royally lame if they shipped those to someone else... I will only do business w/ them if they can guarantee me that all 4 wheels will be virtually identical in comparison... Seriously - you are spending close to 1500 bucks ... might as well pay for something that matches lol

The wheels were shipped back yesterday. I did write Forgestar an email with the new pictures, but I haven't heard anything from them (not that I expect one because it was more of a FYI email). It is a very frustrating situation because I would have never expected the wheels to be different colors. It's very strange. Oh well. It is time to move on as soon as I get my refund and start thinking about what wheels I will buy next.

Its sad cus I was very close to buying a custom set ... they look real nice on the car... too bad...

Volk RE-30's, but they are quite a bit more expensive :rolleyes:

iono if id want REs on this car - some colors can pull it off... iono... CEs always look good but mine are too small lol

just an update...10 weeks and counting without any wheels in-hand...

10 WEEKS!!!!! HOLY FUK BATMAN!!! I waited 6 weeks for exhaust. I feel your pain:mad: