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zero 10-27-2012 09:08 PM

Have they ever done any FEA on the design?

dastaco 10-28-2012 03:49 AM

So we are accepting the fact that Strasse is now made by COR? I'm pretty sure you owe someone an apology if that's the case.

Bottom line, COR makes a sub par product. They got caught on it and pulled shady business practices(screwing the customer and modifying their website). Sugar coat it all you want but this type of stuff distinguishes the good companies from the bad. From a consumer stand point I see a company that will not stand by their product and is willing to screw people over for a buck. This goes down stream to any other company they manufacture for. Right, wrong, or indifferent.... That's how business is. I personally will never purchase one of their products because of this, or any of their downstream products. If someone is not willing to be honest about what they sell then they need to find a new living.

W.O.W. 370Z 10-28-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1985543)
So we are accepting the fact that Strasse is now made by COR? I'm pretty sure you owe someone an apology if that's the case.

Bottom line, COR makes a sub par product. They got caught on it and pulled shady business practices(screwing the customer and modifying their website). Sugar coat it all you want but this type of stuff distinguishes the good companies from the bad. From a consumer stand point I see a company that will not stand by their product and is willing to screw people over for a buck. This goes down stream to any other company they manufacture for. Right, wrong, or indifferent.... That's how business is. I personally will never purchase one of their products because of this, or any of their downstream products. If someone is not willing to be honest about what they sell then they need to find a new living.

I don't understand why he wont admit the truth. What is there to hide?

W.O.W. 370Z 10-28-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1985054)
Ok let me put it this way so it doesn't get misunderstood.

My opinion:

I think there is more to the story and that there is three sides to every story. In this case you have the customer's version of what happened (this is what is being spread across the Internet). COR has chosen to keep quiet from what has appeared to be on the advice of their legal council. Then we have what really happened without bias. I have not chosen any sides despite what a few members may believe...

I am a bit skeptical of the customers story to a degree. I believe some information has been left out. This information could be important in painting the real story... Since COR has not told their story none of us can make any real judgement on what really happened!

The customer does bring some pretty damning evidence with the warranty issues. This needs to be addressed by COR.

Now some members want to group other manufacturers in with this incident and honestly it's sad that these members would stoop to such a low blow with those manufacturers not here to defend themselves. Grouping another manufacturer into this is shady! The simple fact that another company purchases the same material from the same suppliers as COR does not make them a COR private label. The fact that a company may share work space/warehouse space does not make them a private label. The fact that a company has its own machinery and tooling to build its wheels definitely proves that they are not private label...

There are only so many sources for forged center blanks in the US as well as barrel manufacturers... Other brands have not had this issue and the fact that this is the first I have ever heard of a failure from COR and only a single wheelpoints to a rare incident. Unless COR is willing to release their testing of the suspect rim we will not know why that rim failed under load on the track.

All in all, there is no reason to tarnish the names of good companies like Strasse forged who have provided great products, customer service and have proven their wheels on and off the track. I don't know many wheel manufacturers who actually host their own track days both strip and road course like Strasse forged does... If anything my loyalties stand with Strasse forged.

Known shady vendor is ironic shady vendor. We arent talking about Zele and the molds you made from them, we are talking about Strasse wheels and their true origin.

I will post this again: This is from an authorized Strasse Vendor http://www.luxury4play.com/lamborghi...ml#post1809730. Are you calling him a liar?

Actually I know the owners of COR, Chris and Rob, awesome guys and yes they are made by COR as a private label...so does that tell you anything about the quality?? You know who makes ADV.1?? Not ADV.1..so whats your point??

C'mon man..you really going to fight me about semantics about who what when where...I sell a quality wheel in Strasse and know the owners and see my customers wheels being made...I don't place orders for wheels and never see them till they get to my door...I see the whole process and my customers get pics of each step...Thats the customer service I offer...Everything that rolls out of my shop is high quality and best of the best.


Again, just admit it. Dont ******** the community with your semantics.

Man up and just admit it.

zero 10-28-2012 09:30 AM

I bet these companies have never done any testing liked this.

Wheel Testing- YouTube

daisuke149 10-28-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1985543)
So we are accepting the fact that Strasse is now made by COR? I'm pretty sure you owe someone an apology if that's the case.

Bottom line, COR makes a sub par product. They got caught on it and pulled shady business practices(screwing the customer and modifying their website). Sugar coat it all you want but this type of stuff distinguishes the good companies from the bad. From a consumer stand point I see a company that will not stand by their product and is willing to screw people over for a buck. This goes down stream to any other company they manufacture for. Right, wrong, or indifferent.... That's how business is. I personally will never purchase one of their products because of this, or any of their downstream products. If someone is not willing to be honest about what they sell then they need to find a new living.

So COR had one wheel fail... and so the entire company now makes only sub par products?

I know people who have had their engine block replaced due to oil consumption... I guess Nissan makes **** products too right? go sell yours quick! god forbid you own a sub par product.

P.S again, seen rays wheel fail.. I guess they are **** too?

b1adesofcha0s 10-28-2012 11:07 AM

Yeah I'd say they have sub par customer service more than anything else.

daisuke149 10-28-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1985767)
Yeah I'd say they have sub par customer service more than anything else.

agree. Lets not bash their product... instead their customer service people.

Vichtz 10-28-2012 11:20 AM

Seriously, just cause Kobe had an issue with one white girl, doesn't mean it should turn him off to all of them... One shitty product would not make me reconsider a COR product. Their terrible customer service, on the other hand, is enough to make me look else where.

b1adesofcha0s 10-28-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 1985785)
Seriously, just cause Kobe had an issue with one white girl, doesn't mean it should turn him off to all of them... One shitty product would not make me reconsider a COR product. Their terrible customer service, on the other hand, is enough to make me look else where.

:roflpuke2:

AMG091 10-29-2012 08:33 PM

Now I remember why I don't go to forums anymore, as I used to be a member here. It's useful but then there's the forum beef and drama where people make posts to mess with each other. Just for everyone's knowledge, is this thread here to show the Cor wheel failure, or to try and tarnish another company's name? Someone from Strasse must have really pissed you off because you always have something to say against them. W.O.W.370z, everyone here knows you're an ISS fanboy, but you're doing damage to them at the same time. Talking facts, doesn't Cor cut ISS? And when you answer no not all the time, or no "not anymore" (because if not anymore they definitely used to), doesn't Cor supply ISS with the forgings? I see you know Chris and Rob from Cor, how fake can you be lol. It doesn't bother you they may see this? Then comes the fact most of these companies get the rim halves from the same suppliers when it comes to lips and barrels, or is this also false? That means ISS uses the same parts as there are only so many manufacturers for these parts in the U.S. AND GET THEIR FORGINGS FROM COR, and that is a FACT. Apart from that, doing homework I see Cor deals with or makes wheels not only for ISS, but DPE, Strasse, 360 Forged, Forged 1, and quite a few other companies. Now who tests, that's the question. I see some of these brands offer lifetime structural warranty. I'd be willing to bet those are the ones that test to cover their behinds. That being said, even the tested ones, big names or not, have failed. Here's a few pics and Im sure there's many more. Some of them BBS, Volk, HRE, ENkei, Rays, Advan, 360 forged, ADV1, Dymag, Work, and even FACTORY wheels! In the end I'd say what matters is how a company stands behind it's product when something does go wrong. Cut the drama out


HRE Monoblock
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http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...emonoblock.jpg


HRE 3 piece
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http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b573/amg091/HRE.jpg

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...-wheel-web.jpg

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...91/photo59.jpg


BBS
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...1276715717.jpg


VOLK
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...mg091/volk.jpg

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...liumcrack1.jpg

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSC_0424.jpg


Advan
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...anRC2crack.jpg


Rays
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...mlights57S.jpg


ADV
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/..._2-298x400.jpg


360 Forged
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b573/amg091/360.jpg


WORK
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http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...mg091/work.jpg


Dymag
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ymagwheels.jpg


Nissan Factory Wheel
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...091/nissan.jpg


Factory M3 Wheel
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...1/M3crack1.jpg

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...1/M3crack2.jpg


JEEP Factory Wheel
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ranglerrim.jpg


Ferrari Factory Wheel
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ririmbreak.jpg

W.O.W. 370Z 10-29-2012 08:58 PM

A local troll with a 10/29/2012 join date? Its Christmas in October!!!

Reading comprehension fail? Come back after your reread all my posts and understand what I have posted.

Your summary is factually incorrect and sounds like a failed hit job. If you are going to insult me or prove me wrong, atleast get the facts straight and cite what I posted correctly.

Also welcome to the370z. What was your old forum name here? Any pics? I work in Broward. I would love to see your C63.:stirthepot:

AMG091 10-29-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1988402)
A local troll with a 10/29/2012 join date? Its Christmas in October!!!

Reading comprehension fail? Come back after your reread all my posts and understand what I have posted.

Your summary is factually incorrect and sounds like a failed hit job. If you are going to insult me or prove me wrong, atleast get the facts straight and cite what I posted correctly.

Also welcome to the370z. What was your old forum name here? Any pics? I work in Broward. I would love to see your C63.:stirthepot:

Here we go again lol. Everything I stated is true. 110 percent true. If I wanted anyone to know my old forum name I would've signed into it. What do I care to meet you or show my car? This isn't high school or a d#ck measuring contest. Please explain what you posted I must've missed the point other than a little slander here and there and of course starting stuff with members like you're so well known to do. Can't we all get along, must be a Florida thing

W.O.W. 370Z 10-29-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AMG091 (Post 1988423)
Here we go again lol. Everything I stated is true. 110 percent true. If I wanted anyone to know my old forum name I would've signed into it. What do I care to meet you or show my car? This isn't high school or a d#ck measuring contest. Please explain what you posted I must've missed the point other than a little slander here and there and of course starting stuff with members like you're so well known to do. Can't we all get along, must be a Florida thing

Where did I post that I knew owners of Cor, Chris and Rob? Cite the page and post.


Also I wanted to know your old name so we could know how long you have a been a member here.

Slander? Truth is defense to slander buddy. You really want to step into that arena?

You want to get along but when I ask to meet up you react like a 15 year old girl on the rag. :roflpuke2:

W.O.W. 370Z 10-29-2012 09:16 PM

We got an audience now AMG, dont **** up.

issforged 10-29-2012 09:20 PM

:koolaidwall:

AMG091 10-29-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1988433)
Where did I post that I knew owners of Cor, Chris and Rob? Cite the page and post.


Also I wanted to know your old name so we could know how long you have a been a member here.

Slander? Truth is defense to slander buddy. You really want to step into that arena?

You want to get along but when I ask to meet up you react like a 15 year old girl on the rag. :roflpuke2:

Actually I know the owners of COR, Chris and Rob, awesome guys and yes they are made by COR as a private label...so does that tell you anything about the quality?? You know who makes ADV.1?? Not ADV.1..so whats your point??


There you go. I don't care to argue this at all. Not my problem or business but had to chime in on the facts I know since everyone wants to state theirs

W.O.W. 370Z 10-29-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMG091 (Post 1988440)
Actually I know the owners of COR, Chris and Rob, awesome guys and yes they are made by COR as a private label...so does that tell you anything about the quality?? You know who makes ADV.1?? Not ADV.1..so whats your point??

There you go. I don't care to argue this at all. Not my problem or business but had to chime in on the facts I know since everyone wants to state theirs

Ok ready? This is why I posted it in italics. What I posted were the words of Kris, the owner of SaDesign in Broward. Good guy, fellow UM alumni.

I am not questioning quality of wheels I am questioning a vendor, well former vendor hiding the fact that a huge wheel company like COR makes Strasse and many other wheels. ****, I first set of 3 piece wheels were Avus wheels, thats before your time though. That was when you were in middle school probably.

Anyways, you didn't read everything or ateast not correctly. You came here to defend Strasse since they did the setup on your C63 2 years ago, I commend that.

Here I will post it again so you can read it correctly once and for all.

Here is what he said. You can locate the quote in post 40 of this page:WHO'S NEXT?? | SAdesign + Aventador - Page 4


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Actually I know the owners of COR, Chris and Rob, awesome guys and yes they are made by COR as a private label...so does that tell you anything about the quality?? You know who makes ADV.1?? Not ADV.1..so whats your point??

C'mon man..you really going to fight me about semantics about who what when where...I sell a quality wheel in Strasse and know the owners and see my customers wheels being made...I don't place orders for wheels and never see them till they get to my door...I see the whole process and my customers get pics of each step...Thats the customer service I offer...Everything that rolls out of my shop is high quality and best of the best.
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So you still want to argue?

AMG091 10-29-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1988468)
Ok ready? This is why I posted it in italics. What I posted were the words of Kris, the owner of SaDesign in Broward. Good guy, fellow UM alumni.

I am not questioning quality of wheels I am questioning a vendor, well former vendor hiding the fact that a huge wheel company like COR makes Strasse and many other wheels. ****, I once of my first wheels were Avus wheels, thats before your time though. That was when you were in middle school probably.

Anyways, you didn't read everything or ateast not correctly. You came here to defend Strasse since they did the setup on your C63 2 years ago, I commend that.

Here I will post it again so you can read it correctly once and for all.

Here is what he said. You can locate the quote in post 40 of this page:WHO'S NEXT?? | SAdesign + Aventador - Page 4


08-28-2012, 05:56 PM #40 Kris@SuperiorAutoDesign
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Actually I know the owners of COR, Chris and Rob, awesome guys and yes they are made by COR as a private label...so does that tell you anything about the quality?? You know who makes ADV.1?? Not ADV.1..so whats your point??

C'mon man..you really going to fight me about semantics about who what when where...I sell a quality wheel in Strasse and know the owners and see my customers wheels being made...I don't place orders for wheels and never see them till they get to my door...I see the whole process and my customers get pics of each step...Thats the customer service I offer...Everything that rolls out of my shop is high quality and best of the best.
Superior Auto Design | Stop Dreaming. Start Building.
Kris Lim
Owner
(954) 780-6351
SuperiorAutoDesign.com



So you still want to argue?

Ok got it, I misread that thinking those were your words. That's the only part of what I stated this was incorrect. Ok you don't know the owners of cor, which wasnt the point to my argument.And I've never had strasse wheels as I have and have always had stocks on

W.O.W. 370Z 10-29-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMG091 (Post 1988478)
Ok got it, I misread that thinking those were your words. That's the only part of what I stated this was incorrect. Ok you don't know the owners of cor, which wasnt the point to my argument.And I've never had strasse wheels as I have and have always had stocks on

So do you condone vendors misrepresenting origins of a wheel?

COR presently cuts the wheels for MANY wheels companies including Strasse.

Only a handful of wheel manufacturers cut in house, this includes HRE,CCW, Forgline, and ISS Forged, the company that pays me by the letter to post on this forum.:stirthepot:


The fact that COR cuts for strasse is either a surprise to a certain vendor on this forum or he just misrepresents that, and a couple other things on here.

Every wheels company deals with failures, its the shady misinformation,business practices and straight lies that bring them down.

For a vendor to lie about an origin of a wheel and its manufacturer is fundamentally wrong and now just down right ignorant, especially with all the evidence pointing to the contrary.

issforged 10-29-2012 10:10 PM

Sorry to intervene but.... I would like to make some points and observations if you dont mind.

1 = COR Makes wheels for Strasses. So if you own a set of Strasses Wheels it would be smart to call the manufacture to be clear on track use terms and conditions. Since they are their own wheel brand they have their own rules and regulations. Also smart to verify refinishing or altering your wheels with them. It is important to know what your dos and donts are. ( I think this is the real problem with these wheels braking but we wont get into that)

2 = AMG091 and Billet Motorsport .... You guys are not helping the cause. No one has had an issue with Strasses Wheels so there is nothing to defend. Billet Motor Sports A simple We looked into it and we are in the clear would be suffice to inform the community that there is not an issue with their wheels. AMG091 coming in under a new screen name makes you suspicious and non credible. Not the way to address an issue IMO. It actually easier to be who you are and state your opinion.

3 = The issue that no one really brings to surface is the fact that the owner of the car bought wheels and then altered the wheels in a way that voided the warranty. Now the wheels broke and the owner wants to get a full refund and wants his car fixed. All of this because he wanted to save a couple bucks on finishing. From a manufacture point of view this is just BS. You turbo charge your 370 and Nissan tells you to go fly a kite if somethings happens to your car. Why should COR Wheels cover the damage if the customer altered the wheels in a way that voided his warranty. Also when did wheel manufactures become the safe haven for irresponsible use of the product. If you void your warranty, you cannot expect the manufacture to stand behind their product. Those rules are there for a reason.

These are my opinions and I know everyone likes a cat fight but in order to keep our fellow members safe we should be talking about the real problems and solutions to those problems. NOT denying who makes what and trying to bamboozle people into believing something that's not true so you don't have to address the problem. This incident should serve as a reminder of what can happen and that racing cars is not a game. Before going to a track you should know if the wheels are load rated for that kind of use. You should make sure all your safety equipment is in order and that you are being as responsible as possible. Just think about it... Your life is on the line.

Live to Race and Race to Live!

HAVE A NICE NIGHT EVERYBODY!

Japanjay 10-30-2012 02:32 AM

Well said brah!

/thread

W.O.W. 370Z 10-30-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Fitment (Post 1988524)
Sorry to intervene but.... I would like to make some points and observations if you dont mind.

1 = COR Makes wheels for Strasses. So if you own a set of Strasses Wheels it would be smart to call the manufacture to be clear on track use terms and conditions. Since they are their own wheel brand they have their own rules and regulations. Also smart to verify refinishing or altering your wheels with them. It is important to know what your dos and donts are. ( I think this is the real problem with these wheels braking but we wont get into that)

2 = AMG091 and Billet Motorsport .... You guys are not helping the cause. No one has had an issue with Strasses Wheels so there is nothing to defend. Billet Motor Sports A simple We looked into it and we are in the clear would be suffice to inform the community that there is not an issue with their wheels. AMG091 coming in under a new screen name makes you suspicious and non credible. Not the way to address an issue IMO. It actually easier to be who you are and state your opinion.

3 = The issue that no one really brings to surface is the fact that the owner of the car bought wheels and then altered the wheels in a way that voided the warranty. Now the wheels broke and the owner wants to get a full refund and wants his car fixed. All of this because he wanted to save a couple bucks on finishing. From a manufacture point of view this is just BS. You turbo charge your 370 and Nissan tells you to go fly a kite if somethings happens to your car. Why should COR Wheels cover the damage if the customer altered the wheels in a way that voided his warranty. Also when did wheel manufactures become the safe haven for irresponsible use of the product. If you void your warranty, you cannot expect the manufacture to stand behind their product. Those rules are there for a reason.

These are my opinions and I know everyone likes a cat fight but in order to keep our fellow members safe we should be talking about the real problems and solutions to those problems. NOT denying who makes what and trying to bamboozle people into believing something that's not true so you don't have to address the problem. This incident should serve as a reminder of what can happen and that racing cars is not a game. Before going to a track you should know if the wheels are load rated for that kind of use. You should make sure all your safety equipment is in order and that you are being as responsible as possible. Just think about it... Your life is on the line.

Live to Race and Race to Live!

HAVE A NICE NIGHT EVERYBODY!

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Kingbaby 10-30-2012 07:34 PM

anonymous/random users are funny

edub370 10-31-2012 09:05 AM

Hmm AMG091, u sure are passionate and know a lot about the wheel industry for only making 14 posts. and the fact that u don't want to come back on your old forum name indicates u either got banned, work for some company of interest, or got run outta this forum.
..

just my :twocents:


sketchy...

bullitt5897 10-31-2012 09:41 AM

370fitment, the points I have made are simply that Strasse forged is their own company that is not owned by COR nor is it a private label of COR. The only things I have stated is that Strasse has their own tooling and equipment and that is what is used to cut their wheels. I will let Strasse forged comment in here if they so choose on the equipment they bought to cut their wheels. I have confirmed they share space with COR and buy their materials through the same channels and the same suppliers. I have also confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the materials or the wheels made by Strasse. Strasse also openly encourages its customers to track their cars and they only provide a few designs that are performance proven but also stylish. The problem I have is simply with users such as wow370z. These types of users typically do not help our community... When he didn't get the response he wanted he went to personal attacks regarding a private matter were a police report was filed... Honestly I stepped out of this thread because no matter what I said he is firm beliefs that Strasse = COR... THIS IS NOT THE CASE! The problems with threads like this is that members perpetuate one side of the story and not both sides which in my last post was simply pointing out before the personal attack. Yeah the guys wheel broke but until more info is brought to the table who knows what caused the failure. The only thing the people on the Internet can do is play pretend experts and pulls guesses out of their @sses!!! We don't know what happened to that wheel or why it broke! Only COR would know after testing the wheel or wheels to investigate why it broke.... My point in this thread is don't pull in other companies and blacklist them because of a one sided story that runs through the Internet with false info like the L4P post quoted earlier saying Chris Carrillo is the owner of Strasse and COR... Which is totally bogus. My point here was to defend Strasse from biased people like wow370z who supported forged specialties when he ran their wheels and other brands when he runs them. He simply jumps from one brand to the next and then judges other brands like Strasse when he doesn't even own their wheels and probably never has owned a set. I have supplied about a dozen sets or more to 370z owners and not once have they had any issues. Only praises on the quality and finish of their wheels. Not once have any of their wheels needed warranty replacements or had issues on and off the track. All of them got pictures of their wheels being made from start to finish from the blanks arriving to in the CNC machine and to final paint/Powdercoat and assembly... I and Strasse have worked hard to provide our members here with an amazing buying experience and after purchase support. If members wanted anything changed like different center caps after their purchase I made it happen even though no money was made on the deal.

As a former vendor and hope to return soon. I pride myself in customer buying experience and after purchase support. Many members here can contest to that! I value the relationship over the dollar. It's an old school method of business but it works and customers are willing to buy more from you because of it! I want customers for life not just simply fly by night purchases.


Simply said Strasse are quality wheels that are tracked every week and events are hosted by the manufacturer to do so. Their have not been any failures on 370z's or other platforms and like you said fitment I always ask my customers to call me if they want something changed about their wheels as I may know a shop in the area that is reputable in making those changes or they can send them to Strasse for a quality job without breaking the bank and keeping their warranty!

W.O.W. 370Z 10-31-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1990949)
370fitment, the points I have made are simply that Strasse forged is their own company that is not owned by COR nor is it a private label of COR. The only things I have stated is that Strasse has their own tooling and equipment and that is what is used to cut their wheels. I will let Strasse forged comment in here if they so choose on the equipment they bought to cut their wheels. I have confirmed they share space with COR and buy their materials through the same channels and the same suppliers. I have also confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the materials or the wheels made by Strasse. Strasse also openly encourages its customers to track their cars and they only provide a few designs that are performance proven but also stylish. The problem I have is simply with users such as wow370z. These types of users typically do not help our community... When he didn't get the response he wanted he went to personal attacks regarding a private matter were a police report was filed... Honestly I stepped out of this thread because no matter what I said he is firm beliefs that Strasse = COR... THIS IS NOT THE CASE! The problems with threads like this is that members perpetuate one side of the story and not both sides which in my last post was simply pointing out before the personal attack. Yeah the guys wheel broke but until more info is brought to the table who knows what caused the failure. The only thing the people on the Internet can do is play pretend experts and pulls guesses out of their @sses!!! We don't know what happened to that wheel or why it broke! Only COR would know after testing the wheel or wheels to investigate why it broke.... My point in this thread is don't pull in other companies and blacklist them because of a one sided story that runs through the Internet with false info like the L4P post quoted earlier saying Chris Carrillo is the owner of Strasse and COR... Which is totally bogus. My point here was to defend Strasse from biased people like wow370z who supported forged specialties when he ran their wheels and other brands when he runs them. He simply jumps from one brand to the next and then judges other brands like Strasse when he doesn't even own their wheels and probably never has owned a set. I have supplied about a dozen sets or more to 370z owners and not once have they had any issues. Only praises on the quality and finish of their wheels. Not once have any of their wheels needed warranty replacements or had issues on and off the track. All of them got pictures of their wheels being made from start to finish from the blanks arriving to in the CNC machine and to final paint/Powdercoat and assembly... I and Strasse have worked hard to provide our members here with an amazing buying experience and after purchase support. If members wanted anything changed like different center caps after their purchase I made it happen even though no money was made on the deal.

As a former vendor and hope to return soon. I pride myself in customer buying experience and after purchase support. Many members here can contest to that! I value the relationship over the dollar. It's an old school method of business but it works and customers are willing to buy more from you because of it! I want customers for life not just simply fly by night purchases.


Simply said Strasse are quality wheels that are tracked every week and events are hosted by the manufacturer to do so. Their have not been any failures on 370z's or other platforms and like you said fitment I always ask my customers to call me if they want something changed about their wheels as I may know a shop in the area that is reputable in making those changes or they can send them to Strasse for a quality job without breaking the bank and keeping their warranty!

1. You should see the rep points I get for the posts I make when I am calling out shady vendors, shady actions and correcting misinformation. 50% of my rep points on this forum are from when I called out shady deals including FS,UAM and Jamaica. I am doing a service to the community by being the only one to call out people before things get swept under the rug. I don't mind being that GUY if it saves member's future hassles.

2. I was lied to about Forged Specialties wheels. Once I found out, I got rid of the wheels and posted the truth about the wheels being made in China not Germany. I was quick to disavow the company and its product. The fact that you and FS got into it personally is your problem. I finally found a company that doesn't lie to its customers. They make the wheels in house and I am fortunate enough to be able to drive and see this.

3. What I posted from L4P is factually correct. Where did it state that Chris Carillo is owner of Strasse and COR? Can you link where I posted that? Your bold statement(lie) should be backed by evidence. Either you failed to comprehend what you read or you are trying to make me look like a liar. Do you even know who owns COR? Their names are Robert Herrera and Christopher Robles, hence Chris and Rob. As a vendor for COR, I would expect you to know the owners names of COR. So would you like to apologize for what you said about me and my supposed lie?

4. I am sure Strasse is great quality. That really isn't my contention with you. My problem with you is that t you keep going back and forth about who manufactures Strasse and are actively skirting the truth. You are doing a disservice to this community by bullshitting us.

The more you post the more I understand why I feel I have to respond to your posts. You always have to add some sort of ******** and/or straight up lie when you talk about me or others.

You can post an apology or PM me.

issforged 10-31-2012 10:29 AM

Again

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edub370 10-31-2012 10:32 AM

jesus....

f this thread. seems like there is a lot of growing up people need to do on here.

W.O.W. 370Z 10-31-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1991034)
jesus....

f this thread. seems like there is a lot of growing up people need to do on here.

I want to close the thread but the lies are getting old.

Unique_Z 10-31-2012 10:44 AM

Just close this thread then.

Jamaica 10-31-2012 10:49 AM

Oh my didn't know it was this bad.

W.O.W. 370Z 10-31-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72 (Post 1991062)
Just close this thread then.

I will give him a chance to refute or maybe even correct his false statement.

A lie is a lie.


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dastaco 10-31-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1991080)
I will give him a chance to refute or maybe even correct his false statement.

A lie is a lie.


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Just close it, the important information is out there and you aren't going to get an apology. Its time to shelve this train wreck of a thread.

phelan 10-31-2012 11:50 AM

too long, didn't read, but...

Why are there vendors arguing with each other over mustang's COR wheels on a 370 forum? :confused:

Seriously guys, what the fuck.

Vichtz 10-31-2012 01:03 PM

okey dokey mods that's about enough of that. We have officially devolved to a level of extreme ineptitude, is this a Honda forum? Let's just build a pit and the opposing parties fight to the death using the wheel they have a boner for as a weapon. Obviously the superior wheel will not break as it impacts the opponent, so that will solve both problems: Find out which wheel is strongest and the destruction of conflict initiators on this forum. The infinitely thick heads of the combating parties are sure to be sufficient for this stress test. I make my case. Either fight to the death, or lock this ho down.

W.O.W. 370Z 10-31-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 1991363)
okey dokey mods that's about enough of that. We have officially devolved to a level of extreme ineptitude, is this a Honda forum? Let's just build a pit and the opposing parties fight to the death using the wheel they have a boner for as a weapon. Obviously the superior wheel will not break as it impacts the opponent, so that will solve both problems: Find out which wheel is strongest and the destruction of conflict initiators on this forum. The infinitely thick heads of the combating parties are sure to be sufficient for this stress test. I make my case. Either fight to the death, or lock this ho down.


That is a generalization. Don't let one thread that was derailed by vested interests ruin it for everyone.

With that being said I am over the lying and false information.

Do we have to close every thread once conflict has emerged and parties stoop to lying?

I am sick of the idea that we have to close threads or they get swept under the rug once people are caught with their pants down.

This is why there is so much incorrect information floating around this forum and the internet in general.

I guess I have a stake in not closing it because I am sick of the ******** and now straight up lies and its getting old.

W.O.W. 370Z 10-31-2012 01:48 PM

Gave it some thought, I am closing thread as the lies are obvious and/or complete failure of reading comprehension/ability to understand anything by Bullitt@UAMotorsports and the random AMG member.

I will not insult anyone on the forum by keeping this open any longer as they(members) can make rational decisions based on the good information posted scattered within lies/nonsense/clutter.


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