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280z/300zx 09-01-2012 11:47 PM

Pilot sports vs. RE11's on Z and Camaro
 
So I've read most articles here about the Pilot super sports and RE11's. They seem to be the two most recommended tires. However I've yet to see which one is the better of the two.

Both my 370z Nismo and my girlfriends 2010 Camaro SS need new tires. So my first question is which is better, the pilot sports or RE11's? Secondly, would this same recomendation be good for the Camaro. Haven't been able to find a decent Camaro board to get good info yet.

We live here in Vegas where it doesn't rain much but when it does rain the roads flood a lot. So we need something that will be decent in the rain and not kill us. We also drive pretty aggressively in daily driving and enjoy the occasional auto-x or drags out at the speedway. Essentially we want max grip while still be safe in the rain and giving good cornering ability. It seems these tires are whats recommended. Thanks for the help

XwChriswX 09-02-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1898111)
So I've read most articles here about the Pilot super sports and RE11's. They seem to be the two most recommended tires. However I've yet to see which one is the better of the two.

Both my 370z Nismo and my girlfriends 2010 Camaro SS need new tires. So my first question is which is better, the pilot sports or RE11's? Secondly, would this same recomendation be good for the Camaro. Haven't been able to find a decent Camaro board to get good info yet.

We live here in Vegas where it doesn't rain much but when it does rain the roads flood a lot. So we need something that will be decent in the rain and not kill us. We also drive pretty aggressively in daily driving and enjoy the occasional auto-x or drags out at the speedway. Essentially we want max grip while still be safe in the rain and giving good cornering ability. It seems these tires are whats recommended. Thanks for the help

From all the research/experience I've been able to build from using them, and reading on the forum, to which there are quite a few back and forth threads on... It sort of breaks down like this:

Michelin PSS: Great Street tire, Good on the Track

RE-11: Great Track tire, Good on the Street

Everything else is pretty much depending on the date/reviewer of the review.

280z/300zx 09-02-2012 12:04 AM

Makes sense. Thanks for the feedback

280z/300zx 09-02-2012 12:07 AM

Another problem I'm having is that tirerack.com is showing that the PSS doesn't come in the correct sizes for either car. How is that possible?

XwChriswX 09-02-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1898129)
Another problem I'm having is that tirerack.com is showing that the PSS doesn't come in the correct sizes for either car. How is that possible?

I get mine through DiscountTire myself...

What sizes are you looking for? OEM Z?

280z/300zx 09-02-2012 11:00 AM

OEM for both cars.

XwChriswX 09-02-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1898423)
OEM for both cars.

Try DiscountTire, I haven't been impressed with Tirerack's selection and I can Actually go to a DiscountTire store...

cossie1600 09-03-2012 12:53 AM

Michelin can go 20-25K. RE11 is a 15-20K tire, keep that in mind too. But yeah, Bridgestone is a much faster tire, my friend and i swapped cars and tested it. We both came to the same conclusion

marrim 09-03-2012 02:22 AM

I have RE11's. I got them at Discount Tire but had to order them. I was able to OEM sizes for the fronts but had to go to a 285/35/19 in the back. OEM is 275/35/19 for the back.

Jsolo 09-03-2012 09:45 AM

Give the bridgstones s04's consideration too. I've read many reports of how good the PSS is, but the only issue is slow initial turn in due to softer sidewalls. The bridgestones are said to have stiffer sidewalls.

280z/300zx 09-03-2012 10:19 AM

So the PSS don't come in OEM sizes for either car. So how are other people getting these tires? Is everyone just going to wider tires and thus causing their speedo to be off?

SPOHN 09-03-2012 10:48 AM

Out of the two go with RE 11's. I just went from RE 11's to AD08's. I'm much happier. Only 500 miles on them and I like them more than my RE 11's. I did go wider up front and that in itself is a win. Plus AD08's are a little cheaper.

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1899721)
So the PSS don't come in OEM sizes for either car. So how are other people getting these tires? Is everyone just going to wider tires and thus causing their speedo to be off?

most people go slightly wider. stock sizes are bit narrow for the rims anyways.

280z/300zx 09-03-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1899770)
most people go slightly wider. stock sizes are bit narrow for the rims anyways.

So stock is 285/35/19. So my options are:

285/40/19
295/30/19
295/35/19.

which is the lesser of the evils if trying to stay as close to stock as possible. More specificly if I have to error on either slightly larger than stock or slightly smaller than stock which way should I go? Also, how does this affect the front? Do I want to go slightly smaller or larger in front to match or leave stock size?

280z/300zx 09-03-2012 11:35 AM

I'll look into the SO4's and ADO8's as well. Thanks guys

XwChriswX 09-04-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1899787)
So stock is 285/35/19. So my options are:

285/40/19
295/30/19
295/35/19.

which is the lesser of the evils if trying to stay as close to stock as possible. More specificly if I have to error on either slightly larger than stock or slightly smaller than stock which way should I go? Also, how does this affect the front? Do I want to go slightly smaller or larger in front to match or leave stock size?

My current setup is 255/295. I'll be going 265/295 for my next setup. With the 295/35 in the rear, my Speedo currently reads +2mph FASTER than I'm actually going, confirmed by radar detector GPS.

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1899788)
I'll look into the SO4's and ADO8's as well. Thanks guys

I forgot about AD08's, I need to look into those. My only :confused: with them is wet traction... :icon08: Spohn?

bmcd308 09-05-2012 10:10 AM

Look at the specs for the tires and get the one with the most similar diameter to the fronts you chose.

b1adesofcha0s 09-05-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1901953)
My current setup is 255/295. I'll be going 265/295 for my next setup. With the 295/35 in the rear, my Speedo currently reads +2mph FASTER than I'm actually going, confirmed by radar detector GPS.



I forgot about AD08's, I need to look into those. My only :confused: with them is wet traction... :icon08: Spohn?

:iagree: Same here, I might look at getting some AD08's as well vs RE-11's.

Dallaz 09-05-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1898111)
Secondly, would this same recomendation be good for the Camaro. Haven't been able to find a decent Camaro board to get good info yet.

Are you guys not on Camaro5? There is a wealth of information on that forum for the 5th gen camaros and I'm sure you could find plenty of tire discussion threads there that would be very helpful.

As for the Z, I'm definitely going with RE-11's next, my hankook V12's are too slippery.

280z/300zx 09-05-2012 09:28 PM

joined Camaro5, not having much traffic there. I've been watching the board for the last week and it doesn't move all that fast. Decided to finally sign up and post my own message and very little response. Probably the best Camaro forum out there from what I've seen but not all that great as forums go in general

Glokwork 09-05-2012 10:05 PM

I have V12's now which are good but definitely could be stickier. I'm stuck between the RE-11s and the AD08s....the price sucks for 305s

bmarcinczyk14 02-27-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1901953)
My current setup is 255/295. I'll be going 265/295 for my next setup. With the 295/35 in the rear, my Speedo currently reads +2mph FASTER than I'm actually going, confirmed by radar detector GPS.



I forgot about AD08's, I need to look into those. My only :confused: with them is wet traction... :icon08: Spohn?

That makes no sense, I think you mean you have a 295/30/19. A 295/35/19 is considerably larger diameter than the stock tire and you'll be reading quite a bit slower than your actually going.

SS_Firehawk 02-27-2013 12:24 PM

Do Re-11's even come in 20"? or is it a V6 Camaro on smaller rims?

Alstann 02-27-2013 01:07 PM

The Potenza S-04 have very stiff sidewalls, I ride on them at the moment and they are a great all around improvement over the RE050A.

XwChriswX 02-27-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2187106)
That makes no sense, I think you mean you have a 295/30/19. A 295/35/19 is considerably larger diameter than the stock tire and you'll be reading quite a bit slower than your actually going.

Yes, that was a typo. I was trying to remember off the top of my head, and I guessed wrong :rolleyes:

Rears are 295/30's. But they do read on the speedo I'm going faster than I actually am.

asdfsammich 02-28-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1898119)
From all the research/experience I've been able to build from using them, and reading on the forum, to which there are quite a few back and forth threads on... It sort of breaks down like this:

Michelin PSS: Great Street tire, Good on the Track

RE-11: Great Track tire, Good on the Street

Everything else is pretty much depending on the date/reviewer of the review.

Nice summary.

Where would AD08 fit as a one liner?


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