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jlbrenne 08-27-2012 07:09 PM

HELP PLEASE GUYS Wheels/tires......
 
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Alright guys, I found the wheels that I want (getting some custom made) but I dont know what widths or offsets that I want/need. I know there are tons of threads on here about offsets and such. However, since they are custom making the wheels they need me to tell them exactly what I want...However, I dont know what I want.

I'm looking for looks only..Im not racing or tracking my car...However, the car is my daily driver so i need it to be able to get through traffic.

I hear people mention "hella flush" and "aggressive" but i dont know what that means exactly. I DO WANT BIGGER TIRES ON THE REAR 295 OR 305'S.

I have scrolled through pics and like this type of look (pic below)... Hopefully this is enough info for you guys that know a lot more to be able to help me tell the guy what I might want..

If there is anything else you need to know please ask...Wanting to pay for the wheels tomorrow after i get some help from you guys.

Thanks!

Volk Z 08-27-2012 08:03 PM

That is 98 Intrigues car I believe.
He is rocking SSR wheels.
Looking at the pic I would say 19x9.5+23 front
And 19x11+11 rear. This isn't a super aggressive setup but does look
Good.
For tires run 255-35-19 front and 305-30-19 rear.
The lower the number on the offset (+XX) the more it sticks outwards from the hub.
Also a wider wheel with the same offset as a thinner wheel will yield a more aggressive stance as well.
Hope that helps.
If you want aggressive I would go 19x9.5+15 and 19x11+5 :)

Good luck

jlbrenne 08-27-2012 08:15 PM

Volk thanks so much for the info. I should add that I'm getting 20" wheels.

enkei2k 08-27-2012 08:22 PM

"hella flush" is when your lip of the rim is millimeters from the fender and you're running stretched tires. Please for the love of all things that are alive, do NOT do this on a Z. One pothole and 'boom goes the dynamite' so to speak.

ex: the rear rim/tires of this RX7

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/...lowballing.jpg

Volk Z 08-27-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jlbrenne (Post 1889513)
Volk thanks so much for the info. I should add that I'm getting 20" wheels.

The width/offset do not matter for what size rim only the tire size.
So tires would be 255-30-20 and 305-25-20 tires ;)

So if you want aggressive go 20x9.5+22 front and 20x11+11 rear
For the best look in my opinion a little more aggressive is 20x9.5+15 and 20x11+5

That RX7 is not hella flush its slammed... Hella flush means a very low offset that sticks out very far from the hub typically past the fender/bumper with a low ride height. That RX7 is 2 inches too low that's the issue not the offset/width which is what the OP is asking about....

W.O.W. 370Z 08-27-2012 10:26 PM

What wheel company you going with?

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bullitt5897 08-27-2012 11:16 PM

He is going with Strasse Forged I believe. SM8's :tup:

bullitt5897 08-27-2012 11:32 PM

Going from our previous conversation:

You will want to run a 9.5 up front and a 11 rear.

Since this is your daily driver and you want a good look without going crazy we would be running a low offset 11" rear. (This will allow you to run stock settings with no problems). The front we would run a 9.5" wheel with standard offsets to fit your brakes and still give you a nice lip. With the 9.5" and 11" combo you can run a myriad of tire combinations allowing you the choice of tire brands and sizes. My recommendations 255/305 combo or 265/305 combo.

Mike

jlbrenne 08-28-2012 07:09 PM

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I also like this setup...what do i need to get close to this???

bullitt5897 08-28-2012 08:13 PM

So you want a flush setup... that would be an 11 +0 and a 9.5+15 with camber arms and coilovers.

jlbrenne 08-28-2012 08:23 PM

Yeah, Im just trying to get ideas right now. Trying to figure out what and how to gauge different setups. Thanks for the help

bullitt5897 08-28-2012 08:28 PM

no problem ;)

Volk Z 08-29-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1891245)
So you want a flush setup... that would be an 11 +0 and a 9.5+15 with camber arms and coilovers.

That's pretty much what I said above :)

Great choice for offsets with a 255/305 tire setup

bullitt5897 08-30-2012 02:54 PM

Still need help deciding?

jlbrenne 08-30-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1894452)
Still need help deciding?

I'm actually going to hold off for a bit....My budget was $3k...I need to save just a little more to get what I want. In the meantime im going to research a little bit. I have never spent this much for a car item..lol. I think it will be worth it though.

jlbrenne 09-06-2012 09:04 AM

what would this setup look like?


20 9.0 F and 20 10.5 R offsets 18 F and 20 R.

bullitt5897 09-06-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jlbrenne (Post 1904095)
what would this setup look like?


20 9.0 F and 20 10.5 R offsets 18 F and 20 R.

The front is fine but I would highly reccommend a 9.5" for tire options. The rear is going to need spacers to be flush.

jlbrenne 09-06-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1904132)
The front is fine but I would highly reccommend a 9.5" for tire options. The rear is going to need spacers to be flush.

Thanks Bullitt!

I really like the look of the cars that have the camber arms and coilovers. However, I really dont know what camber/coilovers are or do..could you please explain while I search both of those???

I'm assuming they lower your car to give you the wheels that flush look. Does that affect driving as mine is used as a DD.

Any help would be greatly appreciated while I search on my own as well.

bullitt5897 09-06-2012 11:53 AM

Lets start with coilovers...

Coilovers are you basic suspension component your stock coilovers are non adjustable. Now the aftermarket sells multiple types of adjustable coilovers that allow you to adjust a few things about your car (Height, Rebound, and Compression).

Rebound is the speed at which your suspension returns to its upward position.

Compression is the rate at which your suspension will compress.

Camber Kits:

Camber kits serve as one purpose to replace the OEM units with a unit that allows much more adjustability in camber and toe. As you lower a car the suspension whether stock or aftermarket begins to go negative in camber meaning your tires begin to tuck into the fender wells. The front of the 370z is non adjustable from the factory. SPC makes an adjustable kit for the front so that as you lower your car you can add or subtract as much camber as you desire. This allows you to make the wheels tuck into the car or push outward to a zero camber setting.

Toe is the angle of which the tires face... as in pointing in or pointing out. Too much in either direction and the car becomes unstable.


Hope this helps some

rebe945 09-06-2012 08:17 PM

255/295s
 
Check mine. Offsets are 18 and 20

daisuke149 09-06-2012 09:49 PM

Yo JL. lol you should jsut plan some time to meet up with Mike or someone local and we can probably describe / show this alot easier in person. help you decide too.

bullitt5897 09-06-2012 10:46 PM

Exactly, Since we are local You and I could meet up and I can give you a quick 30 min dissertation on suspensions and our cars... lol as you know I have helped TONS of members pick their offsets...

dirTy_shoeZ 09-08-2012 12:47 PM

I drive mine everywhere it's 9.5 10.5 +12 front +7 rear 265/305. No issues. For street use I think everyone has answered you pretty spot on

jlbrenne 09-10-2012 09:58 AM

what would this setup look like????

19x10.5 +7 FRONT 245
19x11.5 +17 REAR 255

All 4 are stretched

robones 09-10-2012 10:08 AM

255 for the rears? seriously? are you trying for the really streached looked? Going for the "hellaflush" look? If so, please for the love of what you cherish dont! Minimum on a 11.5 width rim would be 295! and that's skinny! 305s ideal. I have 285s and I have 10.5s on my rear.

jlbrenne 09-10-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1909726)
255 for the rears? seriously? are you trying for the really streached looked? Going for the "hellaflush" look? If so, please for the love of what you cherish dont! Minimum on a 11.5 width rim would be 295! and that's skinny! 305s ideal. I have 285s and I have 10.5s on my rear.

Thanks. Still learning! I want wider tires on the rear..Im just interested in IF the wheels would be ok for the car?????? Im getting a new tire setup but just need to find the wheels

jlbrenne 09-10-2012 10:21 AM

So I guess my question is are the offsets ok for these wheels??? Because most said that I should get +20 +15 and these are +7 +17

I guess I have a question about offsets..The positive offsets make the wheels stick out further correct??? So why do most people have the front wheel offsets higher than the back??? wouldnt that make the front wheels stick out further then the back??

EX. front +20
rear +15

Isnt an aggressive look where the rear sticks out further than the front

sfgr415 09-10-2012 06:26 PM

few things... It really sounds like you are confused. As others have hinted to, your best bet is to meet up with locals and have them show you their setup and explain to you in person. Researching what a certain width/offset/camber setting/ride height looks like online can be very deceiving. In addition, over the last few years, there has been a trend towards aggressive width/offset setups with stretched tires so the internet is full of that stuff, however, alot of people don't realize the pros and cons of running a setup like that, especially on a daily driver. People decide to copy someone's aggressive setup and then they end up hating their setup because it starts to affect the driving experience. When I was researching fitment options for my custom wheels on my G35, I took a look at all the local G driver's car to see what their setup looked like.

Upgrading your wheels and tires is much more than just purchasing new wheels and tires. You more than likely are going to want to lower your car to achieve a desired look. Usually cars don't look all that great when you install aftermarket wheels and tires and maintain the stock ride height. Your car will look silly if you start stretching tires on aggressive offset wheels and keep the stock ride height. Don't do it. Also, even if you get the exact same wheel width/offset and tire sizes as someone else, unless you have the exact same suspension height and camber settings, you setup will look different.

In addition to new suspension, you will have to deal with camber/toe kits, possible rolling of your fenders, and definitely an alignment.

It sounds like there are guys here that are willing to help you out and show you. My advice would be to see cars in person. There is a tendency for wheel/tire setups (and camber) to look more aggressive in person than in photos online.

Generally, the lower the offset, the more "aggressive" the fitment is. However, the wheel width plays a big factor. A 20x10.5 +10 would be more aggressive than a 20x9 +10, even though both wheels have a +10 offset.


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