Cracked ADV1 wheels

memorylasts

When you look at buying wheels generally the more you spend the safer you should be or you think....ADV1 has not had the best track record from what I've witnessed and am just passing the info along. Its a good reminder to do research on things like wheels which are so critical to your safety.

I know most of you guys run Volks and what not it is always good to be informed.

Read here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664569

EDIT for adding info as i read the thread.

Claim for TUV approval

How to find out if the company is truly TUV approved

TUV Defined and TUV links

This is my post, as in im not posting for any companies, just posting this stuff so you guys and gals can get the best knowledge.

I dont want to see this happen here or to anywhere else.

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azn370z

I've said this before but I would stick with a brand that's been making wheels forever. I wouldn't buy from a wheel company that's been around for a few years, even if they sold forged wheels.

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memorylasts

I agree infinitely, but in the end there are people that will.

OP updated to include more information.

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slo

I believe the owner of ADV1 is one of the former owners of 360forged which had many issues at the time.

Luckily ADV1 is priced out of my reach anyway so it won't matter. My buddys M6 has had nothing but issues with his 360 forged split 7 wheels.

However, I won't go with Volks again since last time, I purchased a 2 piece wheel, when the barrel got slightly damaged, I was wanting to order it, found out you are forced to order the entire wheel.

Have bought 2 and 3 piece wheels in the past, for looks and part replacement from damage, no reason I would have bought the Volk SF Challenge 2 piece if you can't replace an individual part.

Volk wheels are great, but after my last debacle, I will not be going with them again. there was no benefit to buying the expensive Volk 2 piece wheels. They looked great but were heavy and with repalcement issues.

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PapoZalsa

Sounds like a Rota but more pricey.....

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370Ztune

Most of the Volk 2 and 3-piece wheels are not modular since the centers are typically welded to barrels to prevent air leaks. However, in most situations where they're bent, you can repair them relatively easily.

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Hard to blame one manufacturer when three different manufacturers are used to make one wheel...

Just my two cents.

RavSpec

This is why we only sell wheels that are tested and pass JWL and VIA standard. I guess having good marketing website and pictures allow them to sell their wheels at a higher price.

I believe ADV1 are more expensive then forged RAYs and WORK.

This is very very dangerous thing we are talking about here.

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slo

The ADV1's are priced "much" higher than Rays and Work. They do make some great looking wheels and definitely have marketed them well to very high end customers. Hope they get their issues ironed out.

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phelan

ADV.1s are in HRE levels of cost. They're very, VERY expensive. At least HRE you get one hell of a wheel with a lot of history. ADV.1 is relatively new. That's all.

I'm quite happy with my Rays, thank you very much.

(edited to clarify position. Not slamming ADV.1 or trying to do so)

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GaleForce

Thanks for posting this information! It should not be taken lightly.

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vividracing

We sell TONS of ADV.1 wheels, and this is the 1st problem I've seen. Every wheel has it's limits; I'd like to know exactly how this one was cracked.

What I'm trying to say, is let's wait for more failures before we condemn ADV.1. I've seen photos of cracked RAYS wheels too. The thing is, I've never seen a RAYS wheel crack from NORMAL use, so that may be the case here.

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ADV.1 Matt

I'd just like to clarify a few things...

1. The actual cause of the failure (page 10) and what actually happened.
2. What we're doing to fix it and how we're taking care of the customer (page 10)
3. Pertaining to TUV - We are certified and the final paperwork to be included into their online database was submitted two weeks ago. However, we only officially TUV certify our German orders that require them... for reasons why, see here: BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92) - View Single Post - This is why I will only buy JWL certified wheels.

Thank you gents!

memorylasts

@ Matt

I got 2 questions.

BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92) - View Single Post - This is why I will only buy JWL certified wheels.
But in this post dated 2/20/2012, you stated you were TUV approved the week before, yet ADV cannot be found on any TUV databases.

BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92) - View Single Post - 22'' ADV10TS wheels cracked from the inside out!
And on this post, someone asks you if Tom Van Ryn, head engineer, was even really a certified engineer. Is he?

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ADV.1 Matt

memorylasts -

Thank you for the questions!

On the TUV - we had the certificates signed 2 weeks ago when our German dealer was in town (ADV.1 Now Official TUV Registered Manufacturer | ADV.1 Blog). So the testing, paperwork, contracts, etc are all signed and approved. But the delay from our dealer getting back to Germany, submitting the paperwork to TUV, and having the documentation included into their database appears to take awhile.

It makes no sense for us to lie about TUV, knowing each thread about this is getting indexed in google for years to come. We fully expect you to be able to search on TUV.com soon to find us registered there. We just have no control on their internal process for adding things into their database.

About our Engineer - he has a full engineering degree. We don't just find any bum on craigslist to come in and engineer for us. Tom originally engineered for MHT and we just hired him on full time from MHT. We just wanted to stop directly replying to everyone's comments as it seem to just add fuel to the fire and in doing so it left the person in question searching for a conspiracy.

Hope that answers your questions!