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Musashi 05-27-2009 07:29 PM

Wheel Help for the track.
 
I want to run competition tires and it really limits me for the most part to 18's. Can anyone recommend 18's where I don't have to sacrifice the width in the rear. The wheels also need to be lightweight. Looks are not a priority. The proper offsets are also important because I have the sport package. I don't know much about wheels just about driving, any help would be greatly appreciated. The wheels are for track use only. I'm involved with a time trials series at my track and I need the right equipment for the job.

Tires I'm considering are; Hoosiers, Advan A048, ECSTA V710....

Thank you in advance....

ChrisSlicks 05-27-2009 07:55 PM

The Forgestar 18's currently in pre-production are probably going to be the best bet for the money. They are relatively lightweight (20-23 lbs) and available in 9, 9.5, 10, 11, 12 inch sizes. That would allow you to run 315's Hoosier R6's up back without a problem, and anything from a 275 to a 295 up front (whether the 295 will rub will depend on suspension and offset). I really like the V710's but there aren't nearly as many size choices. I don't have any experience with the Advan's.

NIZMOZ 05-27-2009 07:57 PM

Best track wheel is by far the ENKEI RPF1s. They are Forged light weight wheels. 17s only weigh 15lbs. That gives you a idea.

18x10.5 with 15mm offset all around with 275s on all corners for the 350z works wonders on the track.

http://enkei.com/RacingSeriesSpecs/RPF1.html

NIZMOZ 05-27-2009 08:05 PM

http://my350z.com/forum/attachments/...d-dscn1311.jpg

and they are cheap. $1199 for all 4 18x10.5 all around 15mm offset.

http://guapozx.com/gallery/d/27472-4/IMG_1073L.jpg

ChrisSlicks 05-27-2009 08:20 PM

The sizes you mentioned aren't even listed on that web page.

imag 05-27-2009 09:31 PM

The RPF1s are absolutely awesome for the money, but I don't believe they are forged.

I'm happy to be wrong, but I recall that they use some proprietary technology. Ah - it's Enkei's Most Advanced Technology (MAT) - what a cheesy name. Still though, you can't argue with the results of these wheels.

I'm not the one to ask for RPF sizing - none of the websites or cutsheets I see on that wheel seem to agree...

Musashi 05-27-2009 10:20 PM

I can't find the enkei's on those sizes and the 15mm offset won't clear the brakes in the front I don't think. Please help I can't wait for the forgestars I need to order these asap.

Would these work? Nice big offset to clear the breaks can run 18x9.5 and 18x10.5...
http://www.enkei.com/nt03+m.html

RCZ 05-27-2009 10:44 PM

Nismoz, I've been looking at those RPF1's for a while now...I think it would be OK to put 305's on them too. The only problem is that I want R888's and the 305's would have to be 35's....they are going to make the wheels look small with so much rubber...I dont like them as much then.

Musashi 05-28-2009 06:41 AM

What offsets will work to the clear the brakes?

NIZMOZ 05-28-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musashi (Post 79746)
I can't find the enkei's on those sizes and the 15mm offset won't clear the brakes in the front I don't think. Please help I can't wait for the forgestars I need to order these asap.

Would these work? Nice big offset to clear the breaks can run 18x9.5 and 18x10.5...
Enkei Wheels : NT03+M (Racing Series))


They clear StopTech upgraded big brake kits on the 350z so they should easily clear brakes on the 370z. They have 18x10.5 with 15mm offset. Many buy them. They are just not listed there.

NIZMOZ 05-28-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 79761)
Nismoz, I've been looking at those RPF1's for a while now...I think it would be OK to put 305's on them too. The only problem is that I want R888's and the 305's would have to be 35's....they are going to make the wheels look small with so much rubber...I dont like them as much then.


If it's for track, you don't go for looks.

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 08:19 AM

I've seen offsets as low as +22 front and +18 rear used. It is less a function of offset and more of wheel design, so there is no magic number unfortunately. Typically the wider you go, the less range of workable offset you have as there is less gap on both inside and out.

NIZMOZ 05-28-2009 08:24 AM

Robert_K in Houston as an example has the Stoptech 14" Brake upgrade on his 350z. He has the 18x9.5 15mm offset and has plenty of clearance. Most autox/roadcourse racers with the 350z use these wheels and have brake setups.

18x10.5 15mm all around.

http://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-t...ll-around.html

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 08:52 AM

The 370Z offset requirements are a little different than the 350Z because of the position of the hub, not because of the brakes. +15 is not likely to work with a 10.5, especially up front. It certainly wouldn't work with that offset without fender rolling and additional negative camber.

NIZMOZ 05-28-2009 09:14 AM

I find it odd that they changed the offsets that much as both cars are still very similar under the sheet metal. Unless you know for sure and have tried it, I wouldn't say it doesn't work. Has anyone tried putting 350z wheels on their 370z yet?

Musashi 05-28-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 79945)
The 370Z offset requirements are a little different than the 350Z because of the position of the hub, not because of the brakes. +15 is not likely to work with a 10.5, especially up front. It certainly wouldn't work with that offset without fender rolling and additional negative camber.

Thanks Chris. What's frustrating is I can buy the Nismo Z wheels but then I'm limited to just hoosiers. I cannot find the right wheel, tire rack is not helpful at all, and wheel companies aren't sure. Any ideas??

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 10:18 AM

It would take too much time for me to search right now but I'm going based on people that have posted about test fitted 350Z wheels as well as vendors that have test fitted wheels.

Although there are some definite mechanical similarities between the 370Z and the 350Z there were also a lot of significant changes, there are very few old parts that are directly compatible.

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musashi (Post 79981)
Thanks Chris. What's frustrating is I can buy the Nismo Z wheels but then I'm limited to just hoosiers. I cannot find the right wheel, tire rack is not helpful at all, and wheel companies aren't sure. Any ideas??

We're in a tough place with wheels at the moment as not many of the manufacturers have done test fits, and customers like us aren't going to buy wheels just hoping they might fit.

What tire widths are you hoping to use?

Musashi 05-28-2009 10:33 AM

I was thinking of playing it safe and going with 265or275/35/18 in the front and 295/30/18 in the rear. I either want to go with Hoosier R6's or Yokohama Advan A048.

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musashi (Post 80001)
I was thinking of playing it safe and going with 265or275/35/18 in the front and 295/30/18 in the rear. I either want to go with Hoosier R6's or Yokohama Advan A048.

They would fit perfectly on the Forgestar's 9.5 or 10" front, 11" rear. I wish they were out already.

You could use the Hoosier R6's on the stock sport wheels in those sizes, but the Nismo wheels with their extra 0.5" inch widths would definitely be better.

Musashi 05-28-2009 02:46 PM

Chris,

Here's what I went with, did the best I could given that I'm in season now.

Got the Nismo S-tune wheels, 19x9 in the front 19x10 in the rear, about 20 lbs by rays and forged. For tires I ordered 265/35/19 and 295/30/19 Hoosiers R6's.

OMGWTFBBQ 05-28-2009 03:43 PM

I'm fairly new to the Z realm, but I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction as to why someone would prefer a non-staggered setup as opposed to a RWD staggered fitment. The stock setup is a 30mm stagger (tire size wise) and I've seen a lot of people run a larger stagger than that. What advantages/disadvantages does the non-staggered setup offer? I know it all boils down to fine calibration regarding suspension/sway bars/alignment/etc., but I'm wondering if there's something more to it.

Thanks in advance!

RCZ 05-28-2009 04:00 PM

The only big advantage for our cars is that you can rotate the tires all around, saving you money...

ChrisSlicks 05-28-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musashi (Post 80143)
Chris,

Here's what I went with, did the best I could given that I'm in season now.

Got the Nismo S-tune wheels, 19x9 in the front 19x10 in the rear, about 20 lbs by rays and forged. For tires I ordered 265/35/19 and 295/30/19 Hoosiers R6's.

That will work pretty good. An extra 0.5 inches on the wheel width would have been nice, but given the stiff sidewall of the R6 I think you'll do fine. It's all about compromise at the moment, I have 275/35/19 and 305/30/19 on the same size wheels as you until I can get the Forgestars. The R6's have a ton of grip, especially on a warm track.

Musashi 05-28-2009 08:19 PM

I look forward to seeing the forgestars released and their weights, nismos could always turn into my winter wheels lol.

NIZMOZ 06-10-2009 12:09 PM

Enkei RPF1 fit perfect with more than enough clearance verified.

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ournal-15.html

Slow*Jim 06-12-2009 10:04 AM

Wheeldude.com Rota 18" wheels for $950 shipped *for all 4*. Lightweight enough and they look great.

Also, SPLparts sells 5zigen FN01R-C's in 18" - another lightweight, cheap wheel that is made in plenty of different widths and offsets.

miguez 06-12-2009 10:20 AM

That's for each wheel???

Musashi 06-12-2009 10:34 AM

you can kill this thread.... car is for sale.


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