Why no love for Falkens?

TheGreatOne · 12-09-2011, 10:07 PM

Hey guys,

Just curious why I don't see more Z owners sporting/discussing Falken tires. I did a search and out of 7 pages, maybe saw a few for sale threads, mainly Falken 452

Seems Hankook and Conti dominate here, besides going higher end Bridgestone

Falken seems to be a very capable, sticky and also attractive looking tire. Is it just because they have limited options? I won't pretend to be a tire expert, I've owned Falken's on my Prelude many moons ago and Yokohama S-Drives on my Lancer

So just wanted to get some input from some with more tire experience....

I'll be in the market soon...leaning towards Conti DW based on things I've heard members like Mr. Kenchan say but the sidewall is truly unattractive

Srenity · 12-10-2011, 01:44 AM

Well first the Azenis don't come in 19's. If they offered those in in 19 and up to 305's then they would be used on Z's much more.

blacknismoZ · 12-10-2011, 02:04 AM

Azenis was my first choice no 19 inch tires!!!!! But I'm happy with my RE11

Chan Chee Hoe · 12-10-2011, 02:14 AM

Falkens are the cheapest Japanese tyres in S'pore.

TheGreatOne · 12-10-2011, 08:44 AM

ahh ok, so its the options...I guess the 452 are their entry level then...

I have couple friends running Azenis on their S2000 so that seems to be the one to get...if it was available

senseiturtle · 12-10-2011, 09:21 AM

A basic observation, although this is gross generalization:

1) 370z owners typically have a little more cash on hand. Therefore, they'll buy higher-end tires. It's more common to see RE-11's, dunlop star-specs, etc. in the sub-200 treadwear group than the falkens. See tirerack for details and testing results.

2) If wanting solid grip with good treadwear for day-to-day use, you're more likely to see Michelin Pilot Super Sports (or PS2's), Goodyear F1 supercars, or other very expensive models.

3) Remember that you ALWAYS get what you pay for.

4) You should lose sleep BEFORE getting the tire, rather than after. (Hard decision before, lots of research vs. being concerned about sub-optimal tire choice)

5) If you're going to actually race the car, consider a second set of wheels with actual race tires. Expensive, but then you're getting the best of both worlds. Sometimes the perfect tire choice is actually "perfect tire choice(s)"

cossie1600 · 12-10-2011, 10:35 AM

No, the main reason why some of us pick the RE11, Star Spec, RS-3, etc over the 615 is because it is simply a faster tire. The 615H narrowed the grip, but so did the price and not so much lap times.

ddvette9 · 12-10-2011, 04:21 PM

Falken owner here. Too many people on here get caught up in tires when they drive their car 1 a month to the movies or around town. If you track or race or have a deep bank go for the nicer stuff, but I am a broke student and went with falkens and I beat my car up everyday they are fine. Better than Nexxen lol

kenchan · 12-10-2011, 05:41 PM

From my experience falken was junk vs other tires I use so don't run them any more.

haitech · 12-10-2011, 09:55 PM

I was wondering the same question. On other forums, the azenis are a very popular choice of tires

jay4500 · 12-10-2011, 10:06 PM

falkens suck, have them on my truck, no grip

Scorpio0124 · 12-13-2011, 08:52 PM

I recall I had slapped 4 new Falkens ZIEX ZE-502 on my Lincoln Mark VII LSC and they were pretty good, especially in rain But I have not used Falkens on any other I had since then...

12-09-2011, 10:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 47 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	Why no love for Falkens? Hey guys, Just curious why I don't see more Z owners sporting/discussing Falken tires. I did a search and out of 7 pages, maybe saw a few for sale threads, mainly Falken 452 Seems Hankook and Conti dominate here, besides going higher end Bridgestone Falken seems to be a very capable, sticky and also attractive looking tire. Is it just because they have limited options? I won't pretend to be a tire expert, I've owned Falken's on my Prelude many moons ago and Yokohama S-Drives on my Lancer So just wanted to get some input from some with more tire experience.... I'll be in the market soon...leaning towards Conti DW based on things I've heard members like Mr. Kenchan say but the sidewall is truly unattractive __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

12-10-2011, 02:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
blacknismoZ Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PDX Posts: 166 Drives: 2010 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 15	Azenis was my first choice no 19 inch tires!!!!! But I'm happy with my RE11 __________________ HKS filter, DBA 5000/4000, HPS, Stoptech. bone stock dyno at Surgeline tuning 294whp 251tq.

12-10-2011, 08:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 47 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	ahh ok, so its the options...I guess the 452 are their entry level then... I have couple friends running Azenis on their S2000 so that seems to be the one to get...if it was available __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

12-10-2011, 10:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
jay4500 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: HOUSTON Posts: 47 Drives: 2011 nissan 370z sp Rep Power: 14	jay falkens suck, have them on my truck, no grip

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12-10-2011, 01:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Srenity Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 537 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 18	Well first the Azenis don't come in 19's. If they offered those in in 19 and up to 305's then they would be used on Z's much more.

12-10-2011, 02:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chan Chee Hoe Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 861 Drives: 370z,Yellow,7sp A Rep Power: 17	Falkens are the cheapest Japanese tyres in S'pore.

12-10-2011, 09:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
senseiturtle Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 22 Drives: 2011 370Z T/S Rep Power: 14	A basic observation, although this is gross generalization: 1) 370z owners typically have a little more cash on hand. Therefore, they'll buy higher-end tires. It's more common to see RE-11's, dunlop star-specs, etc. in the sub-200 treadwear group than the falkens. See tirerack for details and testing results. 2) If wanting solid grip with good treadwear for day-to-day use, you're more likely to see Michelin Pilot Super Sports (or PS2's), Goodyear F1 supercars, or other very expensive models. 3) Remember that you ALWAYS get what you pay for. 4) You should lose sleep BEFORE getting the tire, rather than after. (Hard decision before, lots of research vs. being concerned about sub-optimal tire choice) 5) If you're going to actually race the car, consider a second set of wheels with actual race tires. Expensive, but then you're getting the best of both worlds. Sometimes the perfect tire choice is actually "perfect tire choice(s)"

12-10-2011, 10:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	No, the main reason why some of us pick the RE11, Star Spec, RS-3, etc over the 615 is because it is simply a faster tire. The 615H narrowed the grip, but so did the price and not so much lap times.

12-10-2011, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
ddvette9 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 823 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Rep Power: 17	Falken owner here. Too many people on here get caught up in tires when they drive their car 1 a month to the movies or around town. If you track or race or have a deep bank go for the nicer stuff, but I am a broke student and went with falkens and I beat my car up everyday they are fine. Better than Nexxen lol

12-10-2011, 05:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	From my experience falken was junk vs other tires I use so don't run them any more.

12-10-2011, 09:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
haitech Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin/Dallas Posts: 922 Drives: 11' 370z Magnetic M6 Rep Power: 15	I was wondering the same question. On other forums, the azenis are a very popular choice of tires

12-13-2011, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Scorpio0124 Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 288 Drives: u to drink.... ;) Rep Power: 14	I recall I had slapped 4 new Falkens ZIEX ZE-502 on my Lincoln Mark VII LSC and they were pretty good, especially in rain But I have not used Falkens on any other I had since then...