near-freezing temperatures

Mt Tam I am · 12-09-2011, 01:29 PM

Sorry to ask a question that I can not answer with search function. I am sure this has been asked before. Here is what I read at Tire Rack:

While Pilot Super Sport tires are designed to allow sports cars, sporty coupes, performance sedans and supercars to achieve their full potential in dry and wet conditions, like all summer tires they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

My question: How near 32*F is near freezing in this case? 40* to be sure? 45*? When the Icy light comes on. We will not see snow, I know what ice is but near freezing seems a little subjective.

Thank you

kenchan · 12-09-2011, 02:32 PM

anything at or below 37F is near freezing for my cars.

for me 15F or below is near freezing... brrrrr....

m4a1mustang · 12-09-2011, 02:34 PM

Depends on the tire but most summer compounds are junk below 40*F

spearfish25 · 12-09-2011, 03:15 PM

You'll be fine driving the car with 'summer' tires in cold temps. But if it gets wet, you'll notice immediately how little traction you have. In the dry, regardless of temp, you'll be fine driving around town.

m4a1mustang · 12-09-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

You'll be fine driving the car with 'summer' tires in cold temps. But if it gets wet, you'll notice immediately how little traction you have. In the dry, regardless of temp, you'll be fine driving around town.

Once they warm up...

Until then they can be very dangerous

kenchan · 12-09-2011, 05:32 PM

around town (normal driving) summer tires in dry winter roads will do fine. just dont push it. ive had good experience with the higher end summer tires like pilot sports, GSD3's, RE050A polepositions, S04 polepositions, etc. etc.

even the conti DW's did pretty well in Nov when it was bout 30F outside before i hibernated my Z.

awkwardturtle · 12-09-2011, 05:43 PM

Below 50* is when summer tires start becoming questionable imo. That's about the temp I start to notice the tires stiffening up.

Davey · 12-09-2011, 05:47 PM

All of the summer tires I've dealt with are OK in the upper 30's/low 40's as long as it's dry. And by "OK" I mean, you should be cautious but the car is driveable.

When it's wet, if it's below 50, be extra careful. 37 and rainy? Take the bus.

LakeShow · 12-09-2011, 06:28 PM

It's about 40-30 degrees in NY now and the summers are fine but it's been dry. Don't really speed unless you have driven a little to let the tires gain grip.

m4a1mustang · 12-09-2011, 06:39 PM

When it's really cold out you guys should try a few emergency stops right after you start the car (as long as it's in a safe place). It's incredible how long it can take to stop on stone cold summers in sub 30* weather. If you have even more space try a few slalom moves...

Mt Tam I am · 12-09-2011, 06:42 PM

Wow. Thanks for all the good advise. I thought I might get my head taken off for "Oh no, not this again" ala VDC or Auto vs MT.

Merry Christmas.

m4a1mustang · 12-09-2011, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Wow. Thanks for all the good advise. I thought I might get my head taken off for "Oh no, not this again" ala VDC or Auto vs MT.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you too!

christian370z · 12-10-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Depends on the tire but most summer compounds are junk below 40*F

Even anything below 50 and there is a significant drop off in grip.

kenchan · 12-10-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Wow. Thanks for all the good advise. I thought I might get my head taken off for "Oh no, not this again" ala VDC or Auto vs MT.

Merry Christmas.

kenchan · 12-10-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

When it's really cold out you guys should try a few emergency stops right after you start the car

now why the hell would i do that backing out my garage anyway?

12-09-2011, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	near-freezing temperatures Sorry to ask a question that I can not answer with search function. I am sure this has been asked before. Here is what I read at Tire Rack: While Pilot Super Sport tires are designed to allow sports cars, sporty coupes, performance sedans and supercars to achieve their full potential in dry and wet conditions, like all summer tires they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. My question: *How near 32F is near freezing in this case?** 40* to be sure? 45? When the Icy light comes on. We will not see snow, I know what ice is but near freezing seems a little subjective. Thank you __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler.* Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

12-09-2011, 02:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Depends on the tire but most summer compounds are junk below 40F __________________ - Steve* Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-09-2011, 03:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	You'll be fine driving the car with 'summer' tires in cold temps. But if it gets wet, you'll notice immediately how little traction you have. In the dry, regardless of temp, you'll be fine driving around town. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-09-2011, 06:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	It's about 40-30 degrees in NY now and the summers are fine but it's been dry. Don't really speed unless you have driven a little to let the tires gain grip. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

12-09-2011, 06:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	When it's really cold out you guys should try a few emergency stops right after you start the car (as long as it's in a safe place). It's incredible how long it can take to stop on stone cold summers in sub 30* weather. If you have even more space try a few slalom moves... __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-09-2011, 02:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	anything at or below 37F is near freezing for my cars. for me 15F or below is near freezing... brrrrr....

12-09-2011, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	around town (normal driving) summer tires in dry winter roads will do fine. just dont push it. ive had good experience with the higher end summer tires like pilot sports, GSD3's, RE050A polepositions, S04 polepositions, etc. etc. even the conti DW's did pretty well in Nov when it was bout 30F outside before i hibernated my Z.

12-09-2011, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
awkwardturtle Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: minnesota Posts: 98 Drives: 07 Civic SI Rep Power: 14	Below 50* is when summer tires start becoming questionable imo. That's about the temp I start to notice the tires stiffening up.

12-09-2011, 05:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	All of the summer tires I've dealt with are OK in the upper 30's/low 40's as long as it's dry. And by "OK" I mean, you should be cautious but the car is driveable. When it's wet, if it's below 50, be extra careful. 37 and rainy? Take the bus.

12-09-2011, 06:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	Wow. Thanks for all the good advise. I thought I might get my head taken off for "Oh no, not this again" ala VDC or Auto vs MT. Merry Christmas. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

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