Pothole + Varrstoen BBS Replica = Massive Fail
 

Saw this on another forum, apparently the driver hit a pothole going 25mph and it caused this much damage!


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damn... this is the 1st time I have see a Varrstoen rim breaking apart!

Yeah I wouldn't buy that stuff. My safety and my z is worth a couple grand more.

To be fair I've never seen their other wheeels this bad before but they haven't been around for very long. Only time will tell what ends up happening to their other wheels.

Yeah I would never rock a wheel that is made by them, now I have even more reason not to.

He deserves it for putting BBS center caps on replica wheels..

On a more serious note, I'm glad the guy is OK and nobody (including him) got hurt, but he deserves it for putting BBS center caps on replica wheels.. But still, that is massive damage even for a replica wheel...

Not totally related to the topic in discussion but I think, if you're going to use replica wheels, take them for what they are and use them as replica wheels.. Simple.. It's not cool at all to put VOLK, BBS, RAYS, or whatever other logo on replica wheels to try to make them pass as genuine...

WTF? that looks terrible.

yep, most cheap wheels including XXR's and such shatter vs bend.

this is why Weds was making vid's too before about buying their replicas. there's technology behind alloys and you know who makes the best alloys in the world... dates back to the samurai days. say no to fake.

Either this pothole was the the size of a hippo or he wasnt going 25mph...

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All this hate on LM reps. Just because something is a rep does not mean it is bad quality. True a lot of them are made in China or overseas... again that does not make them bad quality. Miro and Vorrstoen both make decent reps. I doubt even an authentic LM would stand a chance against a 2ft diameter pothole going 45mph. Be real about it.

I took another look at the picture and I'm having trouble believing this kind of damage was done at 25mph....

Unless he got 3 feet of air coming out of that hole... :icon17:

:iagree: (with the lousy squealers fan)

The car was definitely going faster than 25.

lotsa things to question.

If he hit a pothole driving and the wheel did actuall seperate like that. There should be alot more damage, unless the car came to an immediate instant stop right as it happened. Cus otherwise he would have been rolling on that damage wheel for a bit in which case it would have gone in/out of the car causing other damage.

:iagree: The VW community is notorious for this. I just don't understand it.

I've hit a pothole at 60mph with my old set of TSW's, one wheel bent but they never separated like this.

You don't understand why poseurs want people to think they bought more expensive parts? :bowrofl:

I call bs. He hit a pothole with a flat tire, or this didn't happen as said.

that failure mode makes no sense to me.

It's one thing to run a replica, it's another thing badging it with the real branding logo...sigh.. It's a fine line to begin with...

People see stuff like this all the time with Rotas and whatnot yet people still buy them. Same rule applies to all wheels really, save for the real stuff or stick with stock wheels.

I would have to disagree, there are several reputable race teams that run Rotas without issue. These are another animal all together.

Any person that spends 5 minutes on the internet should be able to tell the difference between the two.

The real deal BBS has stampings all around the center and along the lips, you can literally spot it from a mile away :icon17:

It's Volk Stolen quality.

There is no way that going 25mph caused a rim to rip apart all the way around like that.The pothole would have had to been enormous ,and the driver blind to have hit that.

the other thing is, if he hit a pothole larger/fast enough to break a rim like that, the tire would be severly damaged too (Gashed, ripped, blown). not perfectly round like it is int he picture.

Wow, thats some crazy damage. Had to be one hell of a pothole

I'll be honest, I knew buying this car that most modifications etc will be more than with a lot of other imports I've had in the past...one thing, seeing the cost of many of these rims set ups is pretty high up there...it definitely makes you consider replica's

However, when you get into the 19" and 20" territory, I figure you have to go quality....such bigs wheels have more space to spread the load and impact...so strength is even more important (unless my logic is flawed)

All this to say, a 16-17" replica probably isn't a big deal..but knowing I'll get 19/20", gotta pay to play pretty much

Yes I agree with you 100 percent.

those of you saying "that the tire should be damaged", or "i dont understand the failure", etc etc i think are missing the point. i think the entire point is; look how this wheel came apart in this totally ridiculous way, and it wasnt even severe enough to tear the tire apart.

you can tell those wheels were mint 5 min before that pic was taken. there is no evidence of curb rash or any type of previous abuse. from the portion of the lip that can be seen in the pictures, it didnt even take a direct hit, it actually failed from the pressure of the tire pushing it.

i nailed something with my advans on my 350z. the tire survived, but the lip took a small bend where it hit. it was minor enough to be repairable, but i just replaced the wheel anyway just in case.

i am not saying that i would never run replica wheels. not at this point in time while my 370z is still an expensive car, and not when my 350z was worth a lot... but now that 350zs are worth dirt... eh whatever, i would consider replicas if wheel shopping for it. matter of fact i did shop them, until i found a brand new set of different advans for it for 1300 :)

if i had a replica wheel and it failed like that... whatever. no surprise really, wouldnt shock me at all. i would just replace it and say well good thing they are cheap.

^^ wat phunk said.

There will still be a crowd who doesn't know that and will be impressed by the seemingly expensive wheels. Not saying I approve, but I understand why some faker would do it.

I'm not missing the point. I get it. Replica = cheap. ok. I'm saying that I don't buy the :bs: that he was only going 25mph. Sounds like he made that up for the benefit of Law Enforcement. :roflpuke2:

+1 on the wheel part, but -1 on the Z33's are not worth dirt part.

oh ok, i didn't see that part!

maybe a Z with forged wheels should try the same pothole and see what happens.

Ugh... that's just nasty.

that's what you get for faking the funk..

wow. this speaks volumes about why you should purchase quality items...

the biggest fail in this thread as stated above is someone trying to pass off knock off wheels as genuine BBSs.

That center cap was probably just trying to escape/commit suicide and this was the result.

Pretty lame on the center cap, but I wouldn't use this as evidence against the quality of the replicas.

Really? so its normal for wheels to self destruct hitting a pothole at 25mph?

The speed at which the owner reported hitting the pothole is very questionable. I also own a M3 and find it very odd that he was in 4th gear traveling at 25mph, let alone up a HILL. It's just speculation at this point but that struck me as odd..

Also it's not likely that the wheel came apart due to the impact. The pothole likely cracked the wheel and after driving for a little while longer (until he noticed there was a problem) the center separated from the rest of the wheel. A similar comparison can be made with tires. If you have a hole in a sidewall, blow the bead of a tire, etc.. and continue to drive on that flat tire it will eventually split in two right at the sidewall.

Knowledge.. the more you know :tup:

What knowledge do you have? I see a wheel that failed ridiculously after hitting a pothole.. THAT is not normal, and doesn't happen with quality wheels.

but please, share more Knowledge with us.