Pothole + Varrstoen BBS Replica = Massive Fail

[Waiz]

OMG liquid G that is hilarious!

Originally Posted by dan avoN7

I've worked in the wheel industry for 5+ years. I've worked closely with various wheel manufactures over the years and have a lot of knowledge regarding manufacturing, R&D, sales/marketing of wheels, etc.. I have no ties to Varrstoen wheels but you can't judge a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet..

You, like many others, assume a wheel holding together in one piece after a given impact equates to it's quality. This is true but only to a certain extent.. If I posted pictures of Advan Wheels, Work Wheels, Enkei Wheels, etc.. with the spokes separated from the barrel would you say they are an inferior wheel?

Dan this wheel is garbage, you and I both know it.

The original BBS design was never meant to be a one-piece cast wheel and now looked what happens. I would bet as people start using these wheels the problems will start showing up more often.

Sevas wheels were cool too for awhile and eventually as more people started buying them all the issues started and eventually they were put out of business.

[dan avoN7]

Originally Posted by MB370Z

You get what you pay for but then again to replace them is less costly but why put your life in danger rocking shiit wheels.

That same "shiit" wheel are used on AMS Performance's 1100whp+ drag car and many other competitive Time Attack cars. There is a tremendous amount of torque placed on the wheel while that car launches (9 second car that cuts sub 1.4 60ft's). Then again it's not as much force as the wheel sees when it slams sideways in to a curb like on that Integra you have pictured



Based on your "logic" though, Ferarri shouldn't put their customers lives in danger by "rocking shiit wheels"

[dan avoN7]

Originally Posted by Waizzz

Dan this wheel is garbage, you and I both know it.

The original BBS design was never meant to be a one-piece cast wheel and now looked what happens. I would bet as people start using these wheels the problems will start showing up more often.

Sevas wheels were cool too for awhile and eventually as more people started buying them all the issues started and eventually they were put out of business.

As I mentioned before, I don't know.. The wheels could be perfectly safe to run or they could be inferior pieces of garbage What I'm trying to get at is that you can't tell a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet.. Don't take my posts as defending Varrstoen Wheels either, I'm just trying to be a mediator so we can actually get to the truth.

btw, the wheel I was running on my M3 when I struck a pothole (what I mentioned a few posts up) was a one piece cast aluminum "BBS LM" replica (albeit a different brand/manufacture). Just because a wheel has a similar look, doesn't mean the wheel is 100% identical. The manufacture I am referring to puts the wheels through proper R&D and various strength tests. There are various ways to improve on the strength, it could be as simple as adding more material to the spokes. I won't bore everyone with the details though

[Waiz]

Originally Posted by dan avoN7

As I mentioned before, I don't know.. The wheels could be perfectly safe to run or they could be inferior pieces of garbage What I'm trying to get at is that you can't tell a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet.. Don't take my posts as defending Varrstoen Wheels either, I'm just trying to be a mediator so we can actually get to the truth.

btw, the wheel I was running on my M3 when I struck a pothole (what I mentioned a few posts up) was a one piece cast aluminum "BBS LM" replica (albeit a different brand/manufacture). Just because a wheel has a similar look, doesn't mean the wheel is 100% identical. The manufacture I am referring to puts the wheels through proper R&D and various strength tests. There are various ways to improve on the strength, it could be as simple as adding more material to the spokes. I won't bore everyone with the details though

Fair enough, I guess I'm just more skeptical than you.

I see ALMS, Rolex Touring, Porsche Cup and FIA GT3 cars all running BBS's. I have yet to see someone put the Varrstoens through any type of serious racing.

[FL 4Motion]

Originally Posted by MB370Z

You get what you pay for but then again to replace them is less costly but why put your life in danger rocking shiit wheels.

/\ unsprung weight reduction...taken just a wee bit too far.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by Econ

^ needs spacers, look how pushed in the tires are.

[Waiz]

I will leave this here, courtesy of JDM Chicago


Enkei:


Varrstoen:

[kenchan]

^^ wat, no G35Coupe reference under the faux coupe?

[Juruki]

so one picture of a Varrstoen wheel that cracked pops up online and all of a sudden they are all "shiit".
Ive seen a lot of pictures of Volks, Work, Enkei cracked and never thought they were bad quality wheels...

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by Juruki

so one picture of a Varrstoen wheel that cracked pops up online and all of a sudden they are all "shiit".
Ive seen a lot of pictures of Volks, Work, Enkei cracked and never thought they were bad quality wheels...

Place yourself in this hypothetical situation...

You spent 3-4 grand on a set of wheels that are top-of-the-line, name brand, best materials on earth, first guys to make that design, etc, etc, etc.

Now someone comes along and buys a set of wheels that are for most intents and purposes the exact same as those rims, only they use lower quality materials, the design was stolen from the other guys, and he paid under 2 grand.

When you see that guy's brand of rims cracked in a picture, don't you leap at him with "You get what you pay for!"?

[Waiz]

Originally Posted by Juruki

so one picture of a Varrstoen wheel that cracked pops up online and all of a sudden they are all "shiit".
Ive seen a lot of pictures of Volks, Work, Enkei cracked and never thought they were bad quality wheels...

Links?

I been around awhile across a ton of forums, I've never seen this before

[zero]

Originally Posted by Waizzz

Links?

I been around awhile across a ton of forums, I've never seen this before

It's probably Varrstoen's with Volk Stickers.

[Juruki]

Just some quick examples...

cracked a volk wheel! - evolutionm.net

Advan RGII Cracked - evolutionm.net

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None of the wheels show any sign of abuse or busted lips but they still cracked

[Waiz]

1) That Varrosteon didn't crack, it separated completely from the barrel. I have never seen that before.

2) No wheel is indestructable, yes the a quality forged wheel will crack but you will still be able to drive home.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Juruki

Just some quick examples...

cracked a volk wheel! - evolutionm.net

Advan RGII Cracked - evolutionm.net

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None of the wheels show any sign of abuse or busted lips but they still cracked

i bet all those people were driving 25mph and hit a small pothole too.