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Originally Posted by phelan Ah, that is possible. The pothole caused the initial crack on the lip, and as he kept driving, the crack continued to develop and displace to

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Old 06-29-2011, 12:42 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Ah, that is possible. The pothole caused the initial crack on the lip, and as he kept driving, the crack continued to develop and displace to the center disk.

Would be interesting to do a stress analysis on it, but meh, too much work.
Spoken like a true engineer lol.
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yah, he knows fake very well that phelan.
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yep, most cheap wheels including XXR's and such shatter vs bend.
I had XXRs on my 350Z and I've hit some of NYC's finest potholes with them. No problems. XXRs are actually pretty damn strong wheels. There were guys on the 350Z forum that tracked them and abused the piss out of them.
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Honestly, any wheel will shatter like that after dropping into a 2-foot crater that collapsed from underneath the car. I remember a 350Z guy with Volks that got ruined after he hit a massive pothole like the one the BMW hit. When the severity is that high, there's no escaping massive damage like this.

I've seen cheap wheels damage. I've seen expensive ones damage.
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yea, must have been a HUGE pothole

these are Konig After Burners. Konigs are not known for being race car quality, however they are mediocre on the quality level. None the less, 60mph and a 6" deep x 12" wide pot hole did this.

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You get what you pay for but then again to replace them is less costly but why put your life in danger rocking shiit wheels.
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^ needs spacers, look how pushed in the tires are.
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I posted this same thread over on our local forum. and one of the guys there found this:

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Bunch of fking hack jobs.. so not only do the blatantly steal wheel designs but they blatantly steal website content as well..
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Really? so its normal for wheels to self destruct hitting a pothole at 25mph?
No, it isn't, but how do we know that is the full story?

We don't.

I'm very suspicious of the whole claim. That damage just doesn't look like it was caused by a vehicle traveling 25mph.

Likewise, we don't know how big the pothole really was, or how the car hit it... or any real details whatsoever. We just have some dude saying something on the internet, and I've been around way too long to take that seriously.
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I posted this same thread over on our local forum. and one of the guys there found this:

Enkei High Quality Wheels : Performance Series : IMOLA (TireRack Exclusive)

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Welcome to Enkei Wheels
Custom aftermarket wheels are as much a part of who we are as the clothes we wear, the vehicles we drive and of course the performance that we expect. ENKEI custom wheels deliver the latest in wheel designs, composite alloy technology such as, casting/forged processes, rigid testing that must pass stringent JGTC Standards and unsurpassed manufacturing facilities. Enkei is dedicated to perfection and delivers the best in aftermarket wheels. Make sure to sign up to our blog to keep up with Enkei Wheels' involvment in not only the motorsport scene but also the street car scene.



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WELCOME TO VARRSTOEN EUROPE
Custom aftermarket wheels are as much a part of who we are as the clothes we wear, the vehicles we drive and of course the performance that we expect. Varrstoen custom wheels deliver the latest in wheel designs, composite alloy technology such as, casting/forged processes, rigid testing that must pass stringent JGTC, VIA JWL Standards and unsurpassed manufacturing facilities. Varrstoen is dedicated to perfection and delivers the best in aftermarket wheels.



Bunch of fking hack jobs.. so not only do the blatantly steal wheel designs but they blatantly steal website content as well..

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Ah, that is possible. The pothole caused the initial crack on the lip, and as he kept driving, the crack continued to develop and displace to the center disk.

Would be interesting to do a stress analysis on it, but meh, too much work.
It would be very interesting to see and it might be in Varrstoen's best interest (considering how many forums this image has been posted on) to independently test one of their wheels and post the results for everyone to see. This is the only true way we will know if it's a quality wheel or not.
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yea, must have been a HUGE pothole

these are Konig After Burners. Konigs are not known for being race car quality, however they are mediocre on the quality level. None the less, 60mph and a 6" deep x 12" wide pot hole did this.
I hit a massive pothole/uneven road surface last year in my M3 while going ~70mph on the freeway. The impact was so strong it cracked my windshield, loosened my front camber plate nut, blew my rear strut, bent my rear lateral link, cracked my subframe, and blew the bead on my rear tire. I was running 19" cast aluminum "replica" wheels with a 30 series tire in the rear. Three of my wheels were perfect and the one rear wheel had a bit of run out due to the impact, but no bends on the lips or cracks on the entire wheel.

I hit a moderate uneven road surface in my WRX a few years back going ~35mph with a 17" Volk Racing CE28 forged wheel. Impact resulted in the front and rear wheel having bent lips.

There are so many factors involved that you really need a controlled environment to do the testing if you want to determine the strength of a wheel.
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Bunch of fking hack jobs..
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