Light wheels or sticky tires

TBOX · 06-09-2011, 04:59 PM

Given the choice would you take:

authentic te37's with an average performance tire

Or

Knock off varrstoen with a sticky tire like an re11

Obviously cost is the reasoning. Can't have everything all the time.

kenchan · 06-09-2011, 05:01 PM

i really LOL when people run crappy tires with lightweight wheels.

go with choice #2 or check out the TSW Nurb with those tires. that would be a much better choice. lightweight, cheap, and good tires.

JollyGoodChap · 06-09-2011, 05:24 PM

SSR/Advans are cheaper than volks and still light at the same time. use the extra money saved to get some Toyo R1R!

ChrisSlicks · 06-09-2011, 06:03 PM

If you want show get the wheel.
If you want go get the tire.

It is up to you to determine what your priority is.

TBOX · 06-09-2011, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

If you want show get the wheel.
If you want go get the tire.

It is up to you to determine what your priority is.

Let me clarify.

From a performance standpoint which would you do?

Do you think the extra weight of the heavier wheel will counter the gain made from a better tire?

I know a couple people here started with varrstoens and went to te37's. Has anyone noticed a big change?

I'm a dabbler. I do about 6 autocrosses a season, one track day, one or two drags, and drive daily on mountain roads.

cossie1600 · 06-09-2011, 06:30 PM

Tires of course

TBOX · 06-09-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

Tires of course

Non staggered right?

ChrisSlicks · 06-09-2011, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBOX

Let me clarify.

From a performance standpoint which would you do?

Do you think the extra weight of the heavier wheel will counter the gain made from a better tire?

I know a couple people here started with varrstoens and went to te37's. Has anyone noticed a big change?

I'm a dabbler. I do about 6 autocrosses a season, one track day, one or two drags, and drive daily on mountain roads.

Tires win. It takes more than shaving a couple of pounds to make up for the performance difference in the tires. Given that you auto-x tires are the #1 mod you should invest in and yield the biggest result.

XLR8SN · 06-09-2011, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBOX

Given the choice would you take:

authentic te37's with an average performance tire

Or

Knock off varrstoen with a sticky tire like an re11

Obviously cost is the reasoning. Can't have everything all the time.

Just to be devils advocate.....I would choose the rims. You are going to be changing tires anyhow...you can get decent affordable tires still. Just be aware of your limits on said tires though.

If you are looking to get any JDM rims...the yen is still strong and the conversion rate is not looking to get any better soon. Every year the vendors are mentioning that the prices are going up.

Like I said though.....just being devils advocate.....just because you change tires a lot more frequent versus a rim.

cossie1600 · 06-09-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBOX

Non staggered right?

Of course, our car is not mid or rear engine

HKYStormFront · 06-09-2011, 09:32 PM

one of the tuner magazines did a test recently with heavier OEM wheels, really heavy aftermarket wheels and lightweight forged wheels... using the same times the difference between lap times was negligible iirc. is it good to lose unsprung weight? yea but i'd go for tires first if budget is a concern

cossie1600 · 06-09-2011, 10:33 PM

It's like paying $700 for a carbon fiber hood to save 10lbs in weight. Great if you can afford it, but absolutely pointless

OMGWTFBBQ · 06-09-2011, 10:59 PM

Enkei RPF1 + Bridgestone Potenza RE11 = Light wheels + sticky tires

[/thread]

That is, if you're into budget friendly performance. If you care about looks then I don't know.

FL 4Motion · 06-10-2011, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBOX

Given the choice would you take:

authentic te37's with an average performance tire

Or

Knock off varrstoen with a sticky tire like an re11

Obviously cost is the reasoning. Can't have everything all the time.

Tires first. HOWEVER, if you are thinking long term, then wheels. tires wear out and you can replace this shitty ones with some re11s and then you'll have both good tires AND good wheels. Winning.

RedlineHR · 06-10-2011, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Tires first. HOWEVER, if you are thinking long term, then wheels. tires wear out and you can replace this shitty ones with some re11s and then you'll have both good tires AND good wheels. Winning.

+1

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