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Juruki 06-08-2011 01:37 PM

What tires sizes would you guys recommend for RE-11 on sport wheels with 20/25mm spacers?
I was looking at getting 265/35/19 front, 285/30/19 but when i input in on the tire size calculator i get a warning message? the front is 1% difference in size but the rear is 3%. Scared it might mess with my vcd

cossie1600 06-08-2011 03:09 PM

285 35 19 in rear

scruffydog 06-13-2011 10:49 AM

I'm thinking of giving the RE-11 a try however, I realized on Tire Rack's website the Rears don't come in the stock size.

I intend to not do any mods to my car in terms of suspension, spacers...I have the Sports package wheels...what size should I be ordering?

So far I was able to input the front ones as:
245-40R / 19

But what should I get instead of the following size on the RE-11?
275-35R / 19

cossie1600 06-13-2011 10:54 AM

if you track or autox your car, use 285 35 19 all around

265 35 19 and 285 35 19 if you just daily drive your car

scruffydog 06-13-2011 11:06 AM

i do both but I have another commuting car.

I'd like to go on weekend drives and i like to drive it a little more aggressive and i plan to take it to track several times a year.

So I should do the same width (285mm) even for the front? It fits? I thought the front wheels are 1in shorter in width, no? Please forgive me for asking questions like these, I really don't know much about wheels.

Juruki 06-13-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1166095)
if you track or autox your car, use 285 35 19 all around

265 35 19 and 285 35 19 if you just daily drive your car

Would 285/35/19 all around be bad for daily driving? I plan to track/autoX the car twice a year.

cossie1600 06-13-2011 11:25 AM

you could use it, but you defitnitly stetch the front tire, thats why i said 265 if you want to be conservative

Juruki 06-13-2011 02:14 PM

hmmm i think im gonna go 265/285... Im dropped with 20mm spacers up front and wanna avoid rubbing issues
Thx for the info!

scruffydog 06-13-2011 02:32 PM

If I drive my car on twisties on weekend drives...would you recommend me to do 265 instead of 245 for the fronts?

are there any disadvantages if i went with the 265 instead of 245?

cossie1600 06-13-2011 02:56 PM

your car wont turn if you stagger the tires too much. if you want to keep it small, keep the back small too. wider tires=more grip, but you start to lose steering response if you go too big. the fronts are limited by wheel size, not tire sizefor the most part

285 front will dumb down your steering feel, car will probably track harder, and stretch slightly over the recommmended size

scruffydog 06-13-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1166502)
your car wont turn if you stagger the tires too much. if you want to keep it small, keep the back small too. wider tires=more grip, but you start to lose steering response if you go too big. the fronts are limited by wheel size, not tire sizefor the most part

285 front will dumb down your steering feel, car will probably track harder, and stretch slightly over the recommmended size

Thank you so much for such useful tip. I'll probably not going to track too hard with this set of tires. Ijust want to get more performance out of these than my stock setup RE050A.

Which of the following would you recommend if I were to go with the RE11?

Option A) <--I think this is the same setup in width as the Nismo
Front: 245
Rear: 285 (Since they don't offer 275 for RE11)

or

Option B)
Front: 265
Rear: 285 (Since they don't offer 275 for RE11)

cossie1600 06-13-2011 03:13 PM

b, i had that last year. you will notice better grip, quieter car, softer ride and better wear than re050a

scruffydog 06-13-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1166533)
b, i had that last year. you will notice better grip, quieter car, softer ride and better wear than re050a

Awesome, I'm super excited..i'm gonna put in my order this week.

scruffydog 06-13-2011 04:04 PM

hmm, for the fronts RE11 don't make:

265/40-19

So what should I get if I want to keep the 265, should I go with 265/35? or something else? What is the second number and what does it do?

The stock for front is 245/40-19...RE-11 carries that size, but I was curious to go with 265...help please?

Juruki 06-13-2011 04:19 PM

265/35/19

cossie1600 06-13-2011 04:34 PM

265 35 19

Master_Ly 06-13-2011 11:03 PM

I want to chime in and say thanks for starting this thread and for all of the replies thus far! It has been very helpful to me! I landed on this thread because I'm looking to get new tires too. I'm on the stock RE050A and needing to change out my rear at almost 25K miles. My Z is a daily driver (for now) and I do a blend of both city and highway living in Orlando.

I wanted to leave a thought on my similar scenario. Considering I'll be changing the rear tires 2 to 1 of the front tires, I'm going into the second half of life with my front tires. I'm going to bump the rear up from 275 to 285 though my front will remain as the original, stock 245. I think this should be fine since this is what the NISMO Z is running. I will probably get another set of RE050A since, logically, you would think it should wear out near or at the same time as the front so then I can swap all 4 at once. Ideally, I don't want to run a brand of rear tires different from the front for maximum performance and safety concerns per tire design.

Just to give a little background on my intentions, I plan on sticking with the stock rims and do not plan on getting any spacers since I will eventually get new set of wheels. I might be getting a set of coilovers in the near future though.

Ty Weezy 06-14-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1166533)
b, i had that last year. you will notice better grip, quieter car, softer ride and better wear than re050a

Nicee I was also thinking about going with the 265/35/19 and 285/35/19 setup on my nismo. The only thing I'm worried about is the treadlife of the RE-11s. I got about 20k out of my stock advan sports in the rear. Will the RE-11s last as long as that? I rarely track my car only once a year if that.

wstar 06-14-2011 09:20 AM

Conti DWS (Dry-Wet-Snow) is a snow tire. Your poll should probably include Conti DW (Dry-Wet), it's a closer equivalent to your other choices.

wstar 06-14-2011 09:22 AM

Also, the post title and poll title aren't the same thing. The very best performers are expensive, and there's some better value tires that come at a fraction of the cost for only a small cut in traction performance. That's why I'm running the above-mentioned Conti DW. So my answer to your two questions would be different.

cossie1600 06-14-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Weezy (Post 1167944)
Nicee I was also thinking about going with the 265/35/19 and 285/35/19 setup on my nismo. The only thing I'm worried about is the treadlife of the RE-11s. I got about 20k out of my stock advan sports in the rear. Will the RE-11s last as long as that? I rarely track my car only once a year if that.

DWS is an all season tire, S means 3 seasons. It is not a real snow tires.

I believe I said this in an earlier post. The RE11 is a great performance tire except you have to deal with the $1200 sticker price and a 10-20K treadlife.

wstar 06-14-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1168528)
DWS is an all season tire, S means 3 seasons. It is not a real snow tires.

Well, it's not a dedicated snow/winter tire, but the S does stand for Snow. The plain "DW" is their closest competitor to tires like the Michelin PS2, etc, from earlier in your list, and it's rated 340/AA/A (as opposed to the DWS at 540/A/A).

TypeOne 06-14-2011 04:35 PM

I can't stand my Ventus Evos... the sidewalls are so soft it makes the car sway in the turns.

I won't be buying them again.

98intrigue 06-15-2011 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 1169305)
I can't stand my Ventus Evos... the sidewalls are so soft it makes the car sway in the turns.

I won't be buying them again.

Really? Most people praise those things!

gr8ness97 06-15-2011 07:27 AM

Interesting thread. Keep it going (Since I need to get rears as well...

scruffydog 06-15-2011 09:37 AM

I just placed my orders of RE-11 thru Tire Rack yesterday and hopefully I'll get them mounted sometime this week. I'm super excited.

Originally I placed the order for 265-35/19 for fronts and 285-35/19 for rears but then I got a call about the front going above their recommended settings and the traction control might get thrown off because of the significant tire size difference. So I went back to the stock front setup 245-40/19 instead.

I think I can live with the stock setup, maybe later I'll try something different. I am not at the pt where I can drive without VDC on. Plus I'm already upgrading the handling/grip performance with these RE-11 from the RE050A. Forgot to mention I also upped the rear to 285 from 275.

98intrigue 06-15-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 1170587)
I just placed my orders of RE-11 thru Tire Rack yesterday and hopefully I'll get them mounted sometime this week. I'm super excited.

Originally I placed the order for 265-35/19 for fronts and 285-35/19 for rears but then I got a call about the front going above their recommended settings and the traction control might get thrown off because of the significant tire size difference. So I went back to the stock front setup 245-40/19 instead.

I think I can live with the stock setup, maybe later I'll try something different. I am not at the pt where I can drive without VDC on. Plus I'm already upgrading the handling/grip performance with these RE-11 from the RE050A. Forgot to mention I also upped the rear to 285 from 275.

Why didn't you go with 265/305?

RCZ 06-15-2011 10:50 AM

RE-11, PS2, AD08's (in that order) whoever picked the Hankook V12 as a best performance street legal tire is not well informed to say the least and has never driven on a good set of tires.

onzedge 06-15-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1170682)
RE-11, PS2, AD08's (in that order) whoever picked the Hankook V12 as a best performance street legal tire is not well informed to say the least and has never driven on a good set of tires.

And you made a great decision going with the 285 rear scruffy. That setup has awesome balance and the TC gets used to it and doesnt freak out after a few minutes of driving.

:iagree:

scruffydog 06-15-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1170613)
Why didn't you go with 265/305?

I really don't know much about tires and I'm just getting into playing around with switching things up...maybe in the next set I'll try something more.

I also want to not deviate too much from stock numbers because I wanna be able to personally feel the difference between the RE050A and RE11 without too much variables.

Thanks for the suggestion though. Would 265/305 mess up any electronic readings (i.e. traction control, vehicle speed reading, etc)?

When I was on the phone with the Tire Rack guy, he told me that since the size in outer diameter is off by enough, it may throw off the car computer. Any thoughts?

scruffydog 06-15-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1167972)
Also, the post title and poll title aren't the same thing. The very best performers are expensive, and there's some better value tires that come at a fraction of the cost for only a small cut in traction performance. That's why I'm running the above-mentioned Conti DW. So my answer to your two questions would be different.

Yea, sorry about that...i was trying to do as much research as possible. The Poll is different than the Thread title.

Maybe I can do another one another day now that I have learned more about tires. For some reason I couldn't modify the poll once i put it in the Forum.

When I started this thread I thought the only tires we can available on the discount tires website. And then after visiting Tire Rack, I found out there are so many other brands...then I found out that we can also put tires that uses a different width (i.e. mount a 265 on a 245 stock).

I just want to say a big thank you to all the people helping me through this. I hope others who have also ran into the same dilemma finds these posts useful as well.

cossie1600 06-15-2011 11:25 AM

305 on a 10 inch rim is a stretch for a street car, plus that is a lot of tire for some skinny front tires. these tires grip so well that you will be amazed at what it can do. once you get more comfortable driving the car harder, you will see the drawback i mentioned. as for the vdc, i honestly dont think it will like your new tires much. you will see it kick on at tight turns a lot more or even under hard acceleration

Master_Ly 06-15-2011 07:09 PM

At the moment, my new set when I switch out all 4 will most likely be RE-11s. I've actually never driven on these tires before but the reviews praise them consistently and high. As for what I've experienced, Toyo Proxes are my current fav and I haven't ruled them out yet. I'll truly decide when the time comes for the change of all 4 tires.

If anyone has any thoughts on Proxes, which are not on the list, let me know! I had Proxes on a boosted FWD application so there might be something different in respect of our Zs.

Thanks in advance!

98intrigue 06-15-2011 08:57 PM

I'll chime in on my Nitto Invos... I've drag raced on them, street driven them since October, and took them on the Tail of the Dragon. The grip has been fantastic! It was hard to break them lose when I was NA. Even with the added power of 506whp, they are hard to break lose in 2nd gear when they are warmed up. There hasn't been too much rain in FL since October, so I can't comment on that aspect.

cossie1600 06-16-2011 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ly (Post 1171777)
At the moment, my new set when I switch out all 4 will most likely be RE-11s. I've actually never driven on these tires before but the reviews praise them consistently and high. As for what I've experienced, Toyo Proxes are my current fav and I haven't ruled them out yet. I'll truly decide when the time comes for the change of all 4 tires.

If anyone has any thoughts on Proxes, which are not on the list, let me know! I had Proxes on a boosted FWD application so there might be something different in respect of our Zs.

Thanks in advance!

R1Rs are good in their own rights, but I am not sure if they make any tires in 19s


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