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gozfast 06-10-2011 08:13 AM

I was promised a delivery on June 15th-20th a couple of weeks ago. I haven't heard anything since and have received no other updates or tracking numbers. I'll keep you guys posted. This makes it more than 5-1/2 months and counting...

Baer383 06-10-2011 07:19 PM

Actually talked to Rick a little while ago (he called me) He said his shop is up and running and my wheels should go out Monday the 13Th so I would get them on Friday the 17Th.

Well lets see if he can do it.:ugh2:

SPOHN 06-10-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1163160)
Actually talked to Rick a little while ago (he called me) He said his shop is up and running and my wheels should go out Monday the 13Th so I would get them on Friday the 17Th.

Well lets see if he can do it.:ugh2:

So what wheels did you get anyways?

Baer383 06-10-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1163192)
So what wheels did you get anyways?

Vs-124 in hyper silver (the ones on Ricks car on Venaci site)

Venaci Wheels Nissan 370Z Project Car.

abgyak 06-10-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreshFish (Post 1161153)
Got an update on mine as well. Good to see some progress for the folks here. Looking forward to some pics once you get them on abgyak! May I ask what offsets you have?

Just installed the wheels yesterday and found out the offset of the fronts are waaaay out.. :shakes head: at the moment a 25mm spacer supplied by Rick was used and shown in the picture below..

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1070053_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5161826_n.jpg

If i use a 10mm spacer it would clear the BBK but still would be out of the fenders.. If an 8mm spacer is used, it'll scrape the brake calipers :mad: frustrated with the results..

Also installed camber kits and the fronts had to go to -3.2 and thats not what im looking for...

I tried contacting Rick, and has not replied my PMs since yesterday. The problem keeps on coming *sigh* :mad:

RavSpec 06-10-2011 09:58 PM

Yeah, u got the A disk. U need T disk to clear the caliper.

abgyak 06-10-2011 10:01 PM

which means i need a new wheel for the fronts?

RavSpec 06-10-2011 10:12 PM

A few way, increase the offset by changing out the barrel, then use the spacers.

You need to be at +15 mm front then add the 10mm spacers to put ur offset at 5mm.

Or get the t disk face, to swap with th A disk face.

Did u find the wheel spec on the label yet ?

FreshFish 06-10-2011 10:49 PM

:eekdance:

Sucks to hear man... 10mm spacer would probably look and be less aggressive? Maybe a little more drop? Hope you can get it sorted out.

The offsets I was suggested by Rick were +15 front (9.5") and +10 rear (11") and was told that I'd have to run a small spacer on a "T" Disk.

abgyak 06-10-2011 11:44 PM

So Rick responded, but not to my PMs but at the paypal dispute resolution centre quoting my words saying that im satisfied with the wheels...

I mentioned that i was satisfied with the wheels way back when the item just arrived.. I was satisfied with the condition of it, not with the instal.. When instal then this kind of problem arose... It looks like Rick dosent want to take care of this problem instead posted in the resolution centre stating that item arrived to me and i was satisfied with it.. Hmm i'll give rick few hours to respond to me, if not i think i need to make some actions...

docaam 06-10-2011 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1163322)
If i use a 10mm spacer it would clear the BBK but still would be out of the fenders.. If an 8mm spacer is used, it'll scrape the brake calipers :mad: frustrated with the results..

Also installed camber kits and the fronts had to go to -3.2 and thats not what im looking for...

I tried contacting Rick, and has not replied my PMs since yesterday. The problem keeps on coming *sigh* :mad:

If I remember correctly you had a similar issue a year back right? did you order custom offsets so there would be no need of any spacer?

your camber is way off, I had Volks SF winning with +17 offsets in the front and only reason to change those was this much poking at the front.

metz 06-10-2011 11:48 PM

Well I got a response about sending me the money I was owed.

stogey420time 06-11-2011 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1163322)
So Rick responded, but not to my PMs but at the paypal dispute resolution centre quoting my words saying that im satisfied with the wheels...

I mentioned that i was satisfied with the wheels way back when the item just arrived.. I was satisfied with the condition of it, not with the instal.. When instal then this kind of problem arose... It looks like Rick dosent want to take care of this problem instead posted in the resolution centre stating that item arrived to me and i was satisfied with it.. Hmm i'll give rick few hours to respond to me, if not i think i need to make some actions...

Quote:

Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1159417)
Finally got my hands on the wheels.. but a bit disappointed with the rear offset... wasnt exactly what i wanted as discussed earlier with Rick... Lack of 20mm lip size for the rear.. I dunno if 20mm is just a small matter to you guys, but that 20mm difference was the reason why i go for custom wheels.... :ugh2:


Despite the excitement of your wheel arrival... the quote below the 1st says you were NOT happy with the offset! You and Rick talked about it too, that's why the 25mm spacers were supplied by him to offset the problem which it didn't.

Instead of jumping to conclusion saying "he's satisfied with the wheels," where's the follow up to make sure he really is satisfied?

*sigh* wish you luck abgyak in getting this resolved!

You mention that once a dispute is closed it can't be re-opened?
Since Rick said you're satisfied with the wheels... case closed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1163345)
Did u find the wheel spec on the label yet ?

+1

HATED1 06-11-2011 01:09 AM

abgyak=judging on your pictures, throw the 25mm spacers in back and camber it in, get the 10 mm spacers and camber the front to 1.8-2.0 degrees, i think i t will look good, only a suggestion though.

abgyak 06-11-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1163345)
Did u find the wheel spec on the label yet ?

I did check the back face of the wheels... but its not engraved... here's the pic:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4171804_n.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HATED1 (Post 1163553)
abgyak=judging on your pictures, throw the 25mm spacers in back and camber it in, get the 10 mm spacers and camber the front to 1.8-2.0 degrees, i think i t will look good, only a suggestion though.

With 10mm spacers the wheel will scrape the brake calipers... today i tried using a 12mm custom spacers and cleared the calipers for merely 2-3mm but still with the 12mm spacers the wheels is still out of the fender... maybe about 5-10mm out.... the offset and/or the disk (as RavSpec mentioned) is just wrong...

Few hours back ive got a PM from Rick saying that he'll be sending some pics to work... hope i can get something out of it... *FRUSTRATED MODE*

Quote:

Originally Posted by stogey420time (Post 1163549)
You mention that once a dispute is closed it can't be re-opened?
Since Rick said you're satisfied with the wheels... case closed?

Case is still open until 15th this month, then paypal will automatically close it if i dont escalate it to paypal claim...

abgyak 06-11-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docaam (Post 1163496)
If I remember correctly you had a similar issue a year back right? did you order custom offsets so there would be no need of any spacer?

What i was informed from Work, the VSXX design is an old design that does not clear the BBK on any offset... the best they can make is with a spacer of 5mm to clear the BBK and this setup is being used by one of the members (Keng) for which i referred to Rick to follow his setup... But sometime in March, Rick said something about having to change the disk on my VSXX as Work are running out of stock on the disk as used by Keng... but Rick informed me that with changing the disk, it will be just fine.. Here's what Rick said:

"I wanted them to make a T disk for the front to run a smaller spacer,but they were out and had to make the front with a A disk.Well the disk your not going to have to worry about it,cause we got spacer for it any way.So what we made is going t be just fine."

abgyak 06-11-2011 10:19 AM

So i found the reason why the fronts is making so much trouble... i went over to a wheel shop and asked them to measure the offset and the width of the front wheels... it shud've been 20x9.5 et+6 .. but after measuring it the results were 20x10 et+18 :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: WT....

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6698593_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3525434_n.jpg

So its not only because of the A-Disk thats been the problem, but the width of the wheels and the offsets!!

RavSpec 06-11-2011 10:33 AM

Ouch ... Let me check if that spec exist.

98intrigue 06-11-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1163764)
So i found the reason why the fronts is making so much trouble... i went over to a wheel shop and asked them to measure the offset and the width of the front wheels... it shud've been 20x9.5 et+6 .. but after measuring it the results were 20x10 et+18 :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: WT....

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6698593_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3525434_n.jpg

So its not only because of the A-Disk thats been the problem, but the width of the wheels and the offsets!!

Other than the width of the wheel, a 9.5"+6 will sit the same as a 10"+18 regarding offsets and brake clearance.

abgyak 06-11-2011 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1163800)
Other than the width of the wheel, a 9.5"+6 will sit the same as a 10"+18 regarding offsets and brake clearance.

As for now a 12mm spacer is needed to clear the BBK.. but still even with the 12mm spacer is installed, the wheels will still be out of the fenders... For comparison:

My current Wheel with 25mm spacer provided by Rick
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1070053_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...2_726124_n.jpg

Kengs' Front Setup 20x9.5 et+6 with 5mm spacers
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...v/IMG_1948.jpg

RavSpec 06-11-2011 11:47 AM

Ur front is sticking out more than ur rear.

Fastest way is to change out the barrels.

abgyak 06-11-2011 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1163824)
Ur front is sticking out more than ur rear.

Fastest way is to change out the barrels.

With new black bolts as well.... i hope Rick can resolve this problem soon...

RavSpec 06-11-2011 01:26 PM

Assuming at A disk, that's 20x10.0 +12mm spec wheel you got. Yes, that's identical stance with 20x9.5 +6m. BUT since you have to add 12mm spacers, so you are at 20x10.0 0mm offset.

That's 90mm lip barrel (outside) and D barrel inside.

The easiest solution is to change the outer barrel from 90mm to 84mm.

That will put you at 20x9.5 +18mm. Add 15mm spacers you will be at 20x9.5 +3mm which will be closest spec to what you want.

W.O.W. 370Z 06-11-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1163875)
Assuming at A disk, that's 20x10.0 +12mm spec wheel you got. Yes, that's identical stance with 20x9.5 +6m. BUT since you have to add 12mm spacers, so you are at 20x10.0 0mm offset.

That's 90mm lip barrel (outside) and D barrel inside.

The easiest solution is to change the outer barrel from 90mm to 84mm.

That will put you at 20x9.5 +18mm. Add 15mm spacers you will be at 20x9.5 +3mm which will be closest spec to what you want.

Rep points for customer service and cleaning up one of another vendor's messes.

:tup:

ZeeingAround 06-11-2011 01:49 PM

Agree! Another rep for Ravspec and how did you learn "wheelspec" language?:tup:

RavSpec 06-11-2011 01:52 PM

10 years of customizing JDM wheels ....

abgyak 06-11-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1163875)
Assuming at A disk, that's 20x10.0 +12mm spec wheel you got. Yes, that's identical stance with 20x9.5 +6m. BUT since you have to add 12mm spacers, so you are at 20x10.0 0mm offset.

That's 90mm lip barrel (outside) and D barrel inside.

The easiest solution is to change the outer barrel from 90mm to 84mm.

That will put you at 20x9.5 +18mm. Add 15mm spacers you will be at 20x9.5 +3mm which will be closest spec to what you want.

+1 :tup: Thanks for the advice bro!! Need more of that...

VIP-STATUS 06-11-2011 06:50 PM

ok today is sat for me so work is close.
but from looking at the picture i think this is what happen.
This is what you have.
20x9.5 et+31 A disk with 25mm made it +6 to clear your brakes
20x11et -2 R disk for the rear.
Yes T disk will clear better,but at the time wheels was ordered they did not have T disk and was not going to do a run any time soon.
But even with T disk you still have the use spacers.

From your pictures i think work put in your disk in the other way around,since we told them it's for a 370Z with Akebono.
I don't think they know we are dong 25mm for the fronts on the A disk.
I think they put your R disk in the front when since R or T is always use for BBK.Which most of the time it's right to use R disk for the front for bbk,and O or A for the rears.
But in this case we need it for the rear.
So your front right now is a -2 that's why when you use the 25mm spacer it stick out like that.I think that mean sense.I will try to call work on monday morning and find out asap for you.
But if you want to try this first.
Put your front wheels in the rear,it should need no spacers.
Put your rear in the front with the 25mm and see how that clears.If it's clear your Akebono by 6mm then yes the center is on the wrong way.
Check it out and if i'm right.Let me know what you want to do from there.
You can have your tech remove the face and have them on the way we need them to be.And let me know the cost and we'll take care of it.And that should sit perfect the way you want it.
If not let me know what you want to do.
And i will also find out on monday from my side
thanks
rick

abgyak 06-11-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP-STATUS (Post 1164300)
from looking at the picture i think this is what happen.
This is what you have.
20x9.5 et+31 A disk with 25mm made it +6 to clear your brakes
20x11et -2 R disk for the rear.
Yes T disk will clear better,but at the time wheels was ordered they did not have T disk and was not going to do a run any time soon.
But even with T disk you still have the use spacers.

When measured the width of the fronts is not 9.5 inch but 10 inch as shown in previous post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP-STATUS (Post 1164300)
But if you want to try this first.
Put your front wheels in the rear,it should need no spacers.
Put your rear in the front with the 25mm and see how that clears.If it's clear your Akebono by 6mm then yes the center is on the wrong way.
Check it out and if i'm right.

As requested:

Front wheels in Rear = 20mm clearance
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._2357205_n.jpg

Rear Wheels in Front + 25mm spacer = 11mm brake caliper clearance
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7548062_n.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP-STATUS (Post 1164300)
Let me know what you want to do from there.
You can have your tech remove the face and have them on the way we need them to be.And let me know the cost and we'll take care of it.And that should sit perfect the way you want it.
If not let me know what you want to do.
And i will also find out on monday from my side
thanks
rick

Unfortunately there's no wheel company here in the country that specializes in disassembling 3 piece wheels. I already tried asking most of the top wheel shops in town and they never heard of any that can professionally disassemble 3 piece wheels in the country. Since the rears fit in perfectly, all is needed is to change the front wheels.. I suggest you sending me new sets of front wheels with the correct offsets and that should be great and i can send you back the current ones but i wont be responsible for the shipping charges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP-STATUS (Post 1164300)
I will try to call work on monday morning and find out asap for you.

Get back to me ASAP. And as for the paypal dispute, you know paypal will automatically close the dispute on the 15th this month. & when it closes i dont have anything to hold on to. So if there's no solution by the 15th, i just have to escalate it to paypal claim and leave it to paypal to decide. If i get my money back, i will send it back to you once this problem is resolved. Sounds fair enough? I hope u'd fully understand my situation. Thanks..

Baer383 06-12-2011 11:16 PM

Well tomorrow is Monday and allot of us are suppose to get some more info,me personally I'm suppose to get a phone call either way to see if my wheels have been shipped.Rick called me on Friday and said he would call me either way on Monday.

So good luck to everyone and I hope what you ordered lives up to your exceptions.:tiphat:

HelluvaG 06-13-2011 05:21 AM

yup my wheels are due to come in at the end of this week according to rick. we will see how solid his words are. GL to all too on your orders.

abgyak 06-13-2011 05:26 AM

And as for me, Rick promised to call WORK on Monday (Today) to see if there's a new set of VSXX for my fronts.. Hope i wont be waiting for my wheels for another 10 more months... Im expecting somewhere within 2-3months and not more than that...

gozfast 06-13-2011 08:07 AM

Still nothing
 
At least some of you are getting wheels (wrong ones) or getting information. For the last three weeks I have heard nothing. I've sent PM's with no reply. I was told I'd have my wheels this week after almost a six month wait, but again nothing. Rick, I know you look at this thread. Get back to me with a status on my order.

Baer383 06-13-2011 08:22 PM

Rick just called me and told me my wheels are going out tomorrow.
so I will keep everyone posted on what does/doesn't arrive.:ugh2:

abgyak 06-13-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1167201)
Rick just called me and told me my wheels are going out tomorrow.
so I will keep everyone posted on what does/doesn't arrive.:ugh2:

& Hope you're getting the right size... :ugh2:

gozfast 06-14-2011 07:20 AM

Custom wheel assembly?
 
Rick finally did contact me and said that my forged centers and other wheel parts should be delivered to him any day. We'll see, I've heard this before.

My big question was, do vendors usually assemble the wheels themselves? I thought the manufacturer (Work) handled this? How do you know what parts you're getting? Are they the real, forged, quality pieces or just replicas from a unknown supplier of substandard quality? How do I know what I'm really getting and where's the QC assurance? I still don't have my wheels or a real delivery date but now I'm not sure of what I'm even getting. This is getting worse and worse. Can anyone verify this stuff? Hey Rick? Maybe Mark from RavSpec could jump in and explain the "normal" process.

RavSpec 06-14-2011 08:52 AM

Usually WORK dealers in USA must purchase wheels assembled by WORK Japan.

In addition, only the WORK VSXX and WORK Meister wheels can be assemble (since they are modular 3 piece).

All Gnosis series, Varianza series from WORK can't be assemble by anyone else except WORK Japan.

I think Rick's new forged wheels are not make by WORK. So yes, he can assemble them in that case.

RavSpec 06-14-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1167242)
& Hope you're getting the right size... :ugh2:

Hey:

Just curious, when you measure the wheel, u need to measure from the inner lip, not the outer lip. There is 1/2" of outer lip (barrel) on the wheel are not counted toward the size of the wheel.

So if you measure your wheels from the very edge of the wheel, you need to take 1" off.

gozfast 06-14-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavSpec (Post 1167931)
Usually WORK dealers in USA must purchase wheels assembled by WORK Japan.

In addition, only the WORK VSXX and WORK Meister wheels can be assemble (since they are modular 3 piece).

All Gnosis series, Varianza series from WORK can't be assemble by anyone else except WORK Japan.

I think Rick's new forged wheels are not make by WORK. So yes, he can assemble them in that case.

Thanks for the info Mark. I should have ordered thru you in the first place.

Sooo.... Rick, what are we REALLY getting from you? And why have I waited 6 months to get it?

Baer383 06-15-2011 05:24 AM

Rick called me again yesterday and said my wheels are going to be @ my house on Saturday.

At this point one can only hope.


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