Tires spin without squeal when broken loose

spearfish25 · 04-16-2009, 06:51 PM

Alright, this is a relatively stupid question but it has me wondering...

I've noticed that anytime I break the back end loose and spin the tires, they just spin without any squeal. Having watched the vids of the car on YouTube, it seems easy to squeal the tires, chirp them into 2nd, etc....yet I can't get any sound out of my rubber when it's spinning loose.

What's up with this? I know tires need to be broken in a bit but I have 800 miles on them already. The absence of any tire squeal makes me wonder if I'm losing out on some grip as well. They just don't seem all that 'sticky'.

Here is some of the nitty gritty details:
6MT Touring Sport (19" stock sport wheels/tires)
Ambient temp: 45-65F
Tire temp: car driven roughly 10-30min prior to wheel spin
Tire/car mileage: ~800mi
Tire pressures: 35psi front and rear
Road: city asphalt and concrete

Any ideas?

RCZ · 04-16-2009, 06:55 PM

Depends on the road surface and the tire compound. They aren't the stickiest of tires, but they are decent. Some tires are so loud and annoying, some others are silent. My tires have already seen a lot of heat and they aren't making noise. Don't worry, your tires are OK. Be thankful they dont make much noise..

CrownR426 · 04-16-2009, 07:43 PM

The more noise you make, the more tickets you get bro.
:<

spearfish25 · 04-16-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426

The more noise you make, the more tickets you get bro.
:<

An interesting point...

I just hope my Chicago Police medallion on the back of the car helps. Having a father-in-law who is a sergeant can be helpful.

import111 · 04-16-2009, 08:21 PM

I have 1800 miles and mine are quiet most of the time too. I usually get a chirp if I shift hard into 2nd gear, but when drifting sideways in or exiting a corner, a lot of the time it is very quiet, which like someone else said, just keeps the cops not looking in my direction, hehe.

355890 · 04-16-2009, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

Alright, this is a relatively stupid question but it has me wondering...

I've noticed that anytime I break the back end loose and spin the tires, they just spin without any squeal. Having watched the vids of the car on YouTube, it seems easy to squeal the tires, chirp them into 2nd, etc....yet I can't get any sound out of my rubber when it's spinning loose.

What's up with this? I know tires need to be broken in a bit but I have 800 miles on them already. The absence of any tire squeal makes me wonder if I'm losing out on some grip as well. They just don't seem all that 'sticky'.

Here is some of the nitty gritty details:
6MT Touring Sport (19" stock sport wheels/tires)
Ambient temp: 45-65F
Tire temp: car driven roughly 10-30min prior to wheel spin
Tire/car mileage: ~800mi
Tire pressures: 35psi front and rear
Road: city asphalt and concrete

Any ideas?

Whow! 800 miles....I just don't get it.

spearfish25 · 04-17-2009, 06:33 AM

And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

chubbs · 04-17-2009, 08:37 AM

Put my wife in your passenger seat - then you'll get enough squeals to last you a lifetime!

(Does that come across as a bit dirty?)

ps - don't take 355890 seriously - he's a Burnley supporter

XBadgerX · 04-17-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

I think he is adding the sarcasm because you have only driven your car 800 miles and trying to chirp tires in 2nd; which means you have to be driving like a bat out of hell rather then driving the manufactured suggested break in period. ( break in period for engine, not tires.)

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2009, 10:41 AM

Low tread wear tires are pretty quiet most of the time. Pretty much the only time you'll get them to squeal at all is to get them hot and then expose them to severe lateral slides (auto-x, bad track driving). Even then they won't squeal anything like a higher tread-wear tire will.

bullitt5897 · 04-17-2009, 10:49 AM

These are the same tires that come on s2000's and they are Quiet! its because they are a soft compound tire and its as simple as that.

imag · 04-17-2009, 11:36 AM

I *like* my tires to be quiet. There's nothing more annoying than tires howling when you're trying to corner...

355890 · 04-17-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

No sarcasm intended.

I would have at least given the vehcile it's due and allow the 1,200 miles to click off before giving it a real go.

spearfish25 · 04-17-2009, 05:29 PM

Well, I definitely have been babying the car, but a few times I've jumped on it...it's somewhat irresistible. In the end, I didn't mean for this to be an engine break-in thread as we all know there are two schools of thought. I've never heard of any true studies being performed to compare break-in methodologies. What we need is a real scientific study comparing a single model of car....some driven hard from day 1 while another group driven gingerly for the first 1200mi as a control. Then we compare outcomes in terms of mechanical problems, oil burn rate, etc to see which group faired better.

355890 · 04-17-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

Well, I definitely have been babying the car, but a few times I've jumped on it...it's somewhat irresistible. In the end, I didn't mean for this to be an engine break-in thread as we all know there are two schools of thought. I've never heard of any true studies being performed to compare break-in methodologies. What we need is a real scientific study comparing a single model of car....some driven hard from day 1 while another group driven gingerly for the first 1200mi as a control. Then we compare outcomes in terms of mechanical problems, oil burn rate, etc to see which group faired better.

Fair enough.

I guess I always take the side of caution.

I really love this car and the performance and handling it will bring, and frankly can't wait for my ODO to tick by the 1200 marker.

Enjoy !

04-16-2009, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Tires spin without squeal when broken loose Alright, this is a relatively stupid question but it has me wondering... I've noticed that anytime I break the back end loose and spin the tires, they just spin without any squeal. Having watched the vids of the car on YouTube, it seems easy to squeal the tires, chirp them into 2nd, etc....yet I can't get any sound out of my rubber when it's spinning loose. What's up with this? I know tires need to be broken in a bit but I have 800 miles on them already. The absence of any tire squeal makes me wonder if I'm losing out on some grip as well. They just don't seem all that 'sticky'. Here is some of the nitty gritty details: 6MT Touring Sport (19" stock sport wheels/tires) Ambient temp: 45-65F Tire temp: car driven roughly 10-30min prior to wheel spin Tire/car mileage: ~800mi Tire pressures: 35psi front and rear Road: city asphalt and concrete Any ideas? Last edited by spearfish25; 04-16-2009 at 06:54 PM.

04-16-2009, 07:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	The more noise you make, the more tickets you get bro. :< __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

04-17-2009, 08:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
chubbs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Zeeland Posts: 1,046 Drives: 2016 370z Auto-Grey Rep Power: 7586	Put my wife in your passenger seat - then you'll get enough squeals to last you a lifetime! (Does that come across as a bit dirty?) ps - don't take 355890 seriously - he's a Burnley supporter __________________ . '03 Grey >>> '06 Black >>>'10 Silver >>> '16 Grey ^

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04-16-2009, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Depends on the road surface and the tire compound. They aren't the stickiest of tires, but they are decent. Some tires are so loud and annoying, some others are silent. My tires have already seen a lot of heat and they aren't making noise. Don't worry, your tires are OK. Be thankful they dont make much noise..

04-16-2009, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
import111 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ. Posts: 622 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 191	I have 1800 miles and mine are quiet most of the time too. I usually get a chirp if I shift hard into 2nd gear, but when drifting sideways in or exiting a corner, a lot of the time it is very quiet, which like someone else said, just keeps the cops not looking in my direction, hehe.

04-17-2009, 06:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	And the sarcasm is necessary because.....???? 800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

04-17-2009, 10:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Low tread wear tires are pretty quiet most of the time. Pretty much the only time you'll get them to squeal at all is to get them hot and then expose them to severe lateral slides (auto-x, bad track driving). Even then they won't squeal anything like a higher tread-wear tire will.

04-17-2009, 10:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	These are the same tires that come on s2000's and they are Quiet! its because they are a soft compound tire and its as simple as that.

04-17-2009, 11:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
imag Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 446 Drives: up the wall Rep Power: 16	I like my tires to be quiet. There's nothing more annoying than tires howling when you're trying to corner...

04-17-2009, 05:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Well, I definitely have been babying the car, but a few times I've jumped on it...it's somewhat irresistible. In the end, I didn't mean for this to be an engine break-in thread as we all know there are two schools of thought. I've never heard of any true studies being performed to compare break-in methodologies. What we need is a real scientific study comparing a single model of car....some driven hard from day 1 while another group driven gingerly for the first 1200mi as a control. Then we compare outcomes in terms of mechanical problems, oil burn rate, etc to see which group faired better.