H&R Spacer... Lip shaved/broke off?!

kenchan · 04-19-2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn

So unfortunately H&R doesn't warranty their spacers once they have been installed. Incredibly lame, since when else would you really need a warranty on a set of spacers?

WTF... that is by far the shittiest comment from a manufacturer!!

at least take the failed part, analyize it, find root cause, and then give the customer a new one if it was a defect or explanation why it failed so there is no repeat by the installer.

you were lucky none of the studs broke off while you were driving.
chances are the new one will fail again in a few months.

not going to be buying HR spacers for me.

ChrisSlicks · 04-19-2011, 12:16 PM

2 out of 4 have failed for me. I believe both failures have occurred in the front application. The ring simply doesn't appear strong enough in the 15mm DRS spacer for track/auto-x.

I'll be looking for another brand to use in that scenario.

flashburn · 04-19-2011, 12:24 PM

Luckily mine won't be used on the track at all, so hopefully it can handle the street okay.

Josh@Stillen wasn't too concerned about me riding around with the hubcentric ring broken off like it is. Just that I should expect to have some vibrations (which I do, always thought it was my tires to blame).

daisuke149 · 04-19-2011, 12:29 PM

I personally wouldnt be too happy if i was told that, hey buy this product, it may break but thats ok you can live with a few vibrations... but thats just me.

edit: not a knock at Stillen, but more at H&R for not taking care of this or trying to look into it. I understand that Josh is simply saying there isnt a safety concern with the H&R.

Red__Zed · 04-19-2011, 12:30 PM

Note to self: don't buy H&R spacers.

ChrisSlicks · 04-19-2011, 12:33 PM

I would put the broken one in the rear, the vibration should be less apparent. The stock lugs aren't lug centric so it is pretty difficult to perfectly center the wheel without a centering ring. Try to tighten gradually in the star pattern for the best results.

flashburn · 04-19-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

I personally wouldnt be too happy if i was told that, hey buy this product, it may break but thats ok you can live with a few vibrations... but thats just me.

No, it wasn't like that at all. I asked him if he thought it would be okay if I continued to drive on the broken spacers until I got the new ones.

flashburn · 04-19-2011, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

I would put the broken one in the rear, the vibration should be less apparent. The stock lugs aren't lug centric so it is pretty difficult to perfectly center the wheel without a centering ring. Try to tighten gradually in the star pattern for the best results.

Well, I'll be getting the replacement ones tomorrow, so I just need to drive home from work today, and then it'll be sitting until I swap out the spacers tomorrow evening.

Anyone want to buy a couple of busted spacers?

daisuke149 · 04-19-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn

No, it wasn't like that at all. I asked him if he thought it would be okay if I continued to drive on the broken spacers until I got the new ones.

yeah I understand, i edited my post after i re-read it.

Red__Zed · 04-19-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn

Well, I'll be getting the replacement ones tomorrow, so I just need to drive home from work today, and then it'll be sitting until I swap out the spacers tomorrow evening.

Anyone want to buy a couple of busted spacers?

sell them on a forum where the cars don't need hubcentric rings.

flashburn · 04-19-2011, 12:39 PM

Good idea. I'm sure someone would be interested in the spacers + new lugs.

flashburn · 04-19-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

yeah I understand, i edited my post after i re-read it.

Gotcha, yeah... I'm going to contact H&R directly and state my displeasure. I don't expect them to do anything, but I'll bitch at them regardless. I just needed to get replacements ASAP, as even though I've been running this way a while and everything has been fine, now that I found the problem, I'm super paranoid that something bad will happen.

Do we have any other good options for spacers besides H&R and Eibach (which share the same design)?

kenchan · 04-19-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn

Josh@Stillen wasn't too concerned about me riding around with the hubcentric ring broken off like it is. Just that I should expect to have some vibrations (which I do, always thought it was my tires to blame).

i would be very concerned if im running hub-centric wheels (ie: stock wheels)...

if im running aftermarket wheels that are lug-centric, i would careless.

kenchan · 04-19-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Do we have any other good options for spacers besides H&R and Eibach (which share the same design)?

Kic's. ive been using them for 5-6yrs now on my various cars, never had an issue.

the Eibach's ive used on my Z's fronts are 20mm (built-in stud type) and no issue so far. i agree with ChrisSlicks that it probably has to do with the thickness and reinforcement (or lack of) on the 15mm.

Tauruszguy · 04-19-2011, 01:49 PM

oh boy... just installed H&R drs spacers yesterday.... day late and a dollar short! Wish me luck! lol

04-19-2011, 12:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	2 out of 4 have failed for me. I believe both failures have occurred in the front application. The ring simply doesn't appear strong enough in the 15mm DRS spacer for track/auto-x. I'll be looking for another brand to use in that scenario. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

04-19-2011, 12:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Luckily mine won't be used on the track at all, so hopefully it can handle the street okay. Josh@Stillen wasn't too concerned about me riding around with the hubcentric ring broken off like it is. Just that I should expect to have some vibrations (which I do, always thought it was my tires to blame). __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

04-19-2011, 12:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	I personally wouldnt be too happy if i was told that, hey buy this product, it may break but thats ok you can live with a few vibrations... but thats just me. edit: not a knock at Stillen, but more at H&R for not taking care of this or trying to look into it. I understand that Josh is simply saying there isnt a safety concern with the H&R. Last edited by daisuke149; 04-19-2011 at 12:33 PM.

04-19-2011, 12:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I would put the broken one in the rear, the vibration should be less apparent. The stock lugs aren't lug centric so it is pretty difficult to perfectly center the wheel without a centering ring. Try to tighten gradually in the star pattern for the best results. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

04-19-2011, 12:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Good idea. I'm sure someone would be interested in the spacers + new lugs. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

04-19-2011, 12:30 PM	#20 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Note to self: don't buy H&R spacers.

04-19-2011, 01:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
Tauruszguy Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bolingbrook IL Posts: 90 Drives: 09 370z PG M6 SP Rep Power: 16	oh boy... just installed H&R drs spacers yesterday.... day late and a dollar short! Wish me luck! lol __________________ 2009 370Z PG SP 6MT, I. Kplates, K&N, FI CBE 12" Res , Berk HFC, Swift Spec-R, H&R

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