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andrewkd16 03-08-2011 03:12 PM

Track tire....
 
looking to see what would be a great track tire for my 370z nismo and could take driving around town a few times a month. its not daily driven mainly going to be track car but if i wanted to take it to a meet here and there want the tires to hold up to the everyday driven roads

spearfish25 03-08-2011 03:51 PM

I bet you'll find some good threads if you search through this wheels&tires forum...

cossie1600 03-08-2011 04:24 PM

ra1 or re11

JollyGoodChap 03-08-2011 04:58 PM

Toyo R1R?

Blue370tt 03-08-2011 07:21 PM

Yokohama Advan Neova AD08 is a great track and extreme summer tire.

Red__Zed 03-08-2011 08:42 PM

All the suggestions so far are very good. I would personally look at the Re-11 right now.

To better narrow down options, will you be using them in the rain at all?

RCZ 03-08-2011 08:45 PM

Got RE11, best street tire I've ever had. Don't know about track yet.

chuckd05 03-08-2011 09:50 PM

I had nt05s and while they are not a track tire.. they could serve as a dual purpose tire... cornering was very impressive with them... they left me spoiled but initial dry traction was not the best...

re-11 is a better tire but about 50-80 more a tire but also offered in many more sizes..

advans are also run by mike the powder coater and he seems to love them to and he knows his stuff so I would put them above nt05's as well but the nittos will be easiest on your pocket

Mike 03-08-2011 10:52 PM

Yes, I love the AD-08s!

SPOHN 03-09-2011 09:06 AM

All mention seemed to be great. I have the RE11's. There great. Haven't tracked yet. But for spirited driving they just straight grip threw the corners. Very predicable tire. Great in rain also.

Blue370tt 03-09-2011 09:19 AM

2010 EVO Tyre Test

EVO chose an MX5 as their test mule which has relatively small rear tyres (205/45 r17), the choice of high performance tyres was somewhat limited and the final mix a little bizarre

Tyres on test:
- Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
- Continental Contisportcontact 3
- Hankook Ventus V12 EVO
- Kumho Ecsta LE Sport KU39
- Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2
- Uniroyal Rainsport 2
- Vredstein Ultrac Cento
- Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
- Zeetex HP103

Laptimes (dry)
1. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
2. Bridgestone RE050A
3. Continental Contisportcontact 3
4. Michelin Pilot Exalto
5. Kumho Ecsta KU39
6. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
7. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
8. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
9. Zeetex HP103

Subjective (dry)
1. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
2. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
3. Bridgestone RE050A
4. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
5. Continental Contisportcontact 3
6. Michelin Pilot Exalto
7. Kumho Ecsta KU39
8. Zeetex HP103
9. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO

Lap time (wet)
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto
4. Bridgestone RE050A
5. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
6. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
7. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103

Overall
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
3. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
4. Bridgestone RE050A
5. Michelin Pilot Exalto
6. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
7. Kumho Ecsta KU39
8. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
9. Zeetex HP103

andrewkd16 03-09-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 976050)
I bet you'll find some good threads if you search through this wheels&tires forum...

bet i could too if i had time. with school/work/and getting ready for a deployment i barely have time to even check my thread but thanks for the advice when i get time i will do proper research my friend.

andrewkd16 03-09-2011 10:35 AM

i think i am going to go with the ad08 or re11, if i track the car it will only be dry weather, only time it will see rain is if i am out and about one weekend and it starts raining lol. also i might take it to a local drag strip a few times will either tire be fine for drag? is one sticker than the other between ad08 / re11?

here is a breakdwon:

track dry- most
track wet- never(unless it rains while im out on track)
drag strip dry-occasionally
drag strip wet-.....why would anyone drag in the rain
around town dry-occasionally
around town wet-occasionally(but really only if i am out and it starts to rain)

cossie1600 03-09-2011 10:36 AM

ra1 not r1r. i have the hankook v12 on my other car, overrated

Blue370tt 03-09-2011 02:02 PM

I am sure the bridgestones are good....but.....the AD08 tires are the closest tire to an R rated tire without actually being drag radials. Someone even mentions in this thread that the re11's dry grip is ok but not great. I bought the AD08 FOR GRIP and it has not let me down....even with my extra HP.

Blue370tt 03-09-2011 02:09 PM

from tire rack website:

The ADVAN Neova AD08 is Yokohama's Extreme Performance Summer tire developed for the drivers of sports cars, sports coupes and performance sedans that have a passion for sport driving. The ADVAN Neova AD08 is designed to provide high levels of traction, responsive handling and driving control on dry and wet roads, however it is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

spearfish25 03-09-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 977548)
Someone even mentions in this thread that the re11's dry grip is ok but not great.

I'd interpret that line with caution. There are MANY owners of RE-11s that claim they have the best dry grip they've ever experienced in a street tire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 977568)
from tire rack website:

The ADVAN Neova AD08 is Yokohama's Extreme Performance Summer tire developed for the drivers of sports cars, sports coupes and performance sedans that have a passion for sport driving. The ADVAN Neova AD08 is designed to provide high levels of traction, responsive handling and driving control on dry and wet roads, however it is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

Also from the Tire Rack website:
The Potenza RE-11 is an Extreme Performance Summer tire developed for enthusiastic sports car, sports coupe and performance sedan drivers. The Potenza RE-11 is designed to combine traction, handling and driving control with good noise and ride comfort. The Potenza RE-11 is tuned for dry and wet conditions, but like all summer tires is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

This is their canned, general info for Extreme Performance tires.

cossie1600 03-09-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 977548)
I am sure the bridgestones are good....but.....the AD08 tires are the closest tire to an R rated tire without actually being drag radials. Someone even mentions in this thread that the re11's dry grip is ok but not great. I bought the AD08 FOR GRIP and it has not let me down....even with my extra HP.

funny as i ran faster with my re11 than my ad08

andrewkd16 03-10-2011 08:30 AM

ill do some research but it will for sure be between the re11 and ad08

Blue370tt 03-10-2011 08:30 AM

If you google re11 vs ad08 you will get many answers to this question. Since the title of this thread is "track tire" I would say the AD08 is better. All the comparisons on the web show the AD08 as the clear winner in track times and grip.

That being said most comparisons rate these 2 tires almost even or close. The RE11 does have superior wet performance....but....thats not what this thread was about....and.....my Z doesnt go out in the rain.

And for the above post "I got a better time with the RE11s", I am sure there were many other factors involved in your time that day. You could probably also say "I got a better time wearing Hanes underwear" too....but that does mean the track conditions, temp, car running condition, etc, played no part.

daisuke149 03-10-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 979145)
If you google re11 vs ad08 you will get many answers to this question. Since the title of this thread is "track tire" I would say the AD08 is better. All the comparisons on the web show the AD08 as the clear winner in track times and grip.

That being said most comparisons rate these 2 tires almost even or close. The RE11 does have superior wet performance....but....thats not what this thread was about....and.....my Z doesnt go out in the rain.

And for the above post "I got a better time with the RE11s", I am sure there were many other factors involved in your time that day. You could probably also say "I got a better time wearing Hanes underwear" too....but that does mean the track conditions, temp, car running condition, etc, played no part.

looks like i need to go buy hanes underwear... and then actually start wearing underwear.

But i agree, so many facters in track times. Truthfully, either tire would be great for the OP. If hes worried about the diff between the 2 to help him on the track, he must be a really pro driver.

andrewkd16 03-10-2011 09:08 AM

i looked at a comparison the re11 and ad08 are like dead even almost overall but as far as traction ad08 better when dry and re11 better when wet. think ill go with the ad08 this time and ill try the re11 next :)

YouTube - Tire Rack Tire Test - Testing the New Extremes of Extreme Performance Summer Tires

andrewkd16 03-10-2011 09:11 AM

i am far from a pro driver :) just want my car to stick those turns the best it can while still being able to drive it on the street if i want and not having to change tires etc

ChrisSlicks 03-10-2011 09:14 AM

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The RE-11 feels faster than the AD08 because it can hold a little more cornering force, but the AD08 is better under braking. All in all there isn't much performance difference in these tires, or any of the tires in this grouping - they are all good. I've driven on just about all of them, unfortunately not all on the same car so I can't make a true comparison as car setup is much more of a factor than tire.

That said, if you want the lowest lap times then you need something like this ;)

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1299770012

Mike 03-10-2011 11:28 AM

I'm extremely happy with the AD-08s myself, but after reading all the comparisons, it would come down to whichever is cheaper for me between the two.

cossie1600 03-10-2011 12:08 PM

Nothing is cheap at nearly $300 a pop


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