Broken wheel stud and lug nut.

MightyBobo · 04-06-2009, 02:20 PM

Got mine fixed this morning. Pity they didnt jack my wheel up w/ the curb rash on it

lol

I warned them, and they'll probably be removing them from all 370's.

ChrisSlicks · 04-06-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Got mine fixed this morning. Pity they didnt jack my wheel up w/ the curb rash on it

lol

I warned them, and they'll probably be removing them from all 370's.

Great news.

Did you have the same ones as Joey?

MightyBobo · 04-07-2009, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Great news.

Did you have the same ones as Joey?

Yes, I did. They are Nissan-brand locks, and they did indeed think the 350Z's could be used on the 370's. They were definitely surprised when I said it didnt fit, but I think they will be removing them now, thankfully. I hope so, at least...

BTW, I think its worthy mentioning that, looking at the cheap metal that made these lugs up, I'd almost guarantee that in cold weather, they'd very likely snap when trying to take them off if it was an emergency!

wstar · 04-07-2009, 12:52 AM

I'm pretty sure I have the same ones pictured multiple times earlier too. They were on the car when I received it, presumably installed by the dealer. Seems to be some kind of standard-issue Nissan locking lug thing. I haven't had any issues yet, but I'd rather not have any in the future.

I hadn't thought about the fact that these don't have washers like the other lugs. Is this really an issue? Should I get them off the car?

SoCal 370Z · 04-07-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Should I get them off the car?

Yes. If you are using a locking lug that does not match the non-locking lug nuts, and one without a washer when the others have one, then the washerless locking lug is not seating on the rim properly; this affects torque values on the studs and hub, plus can damage your rim. If your dealer installed them, have your dealer replace them with the proper locking lugs.

MightyBobo · 04-07-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

I'm pretty sure I have the same ones pictured multiple times earlier too. They were on the car when I received it, presumably installed by the dealer. Seems to be some kind of standard-issue Nissan locking lug thing. I haven't had any issues yet, but I'd rather not have any in the future.

I hadn't thought about the fact that these don't have washers like the other lugs. Is this really an issue? Should I get them off the car?

Yes - don't even waste time with them. Replace them with stockers and tell the dealership that you want a new set when ones specifically for the 370Z come out. They seriously are crap.

iceman21_23 · 04-06-2009, 02:48 PM

btw the invoice i had inside the package said these wheel locks are for g37 sedans

JoeyD · 04-06-2009, 03:05 PM

At least the remainder of the lug can be removed without damaging the wheel. It could be a lot worse...also could have been prevented with a little common sense. One of these things is not like the other....?

JoeyD · 04-07-2009, 01:10 PM

Yeah. CRAP! I should get a refund for the price of those stupid lugs. The absolute WORST thing about this whole debacle is that the proper lugs are available.

CourtesyParts :: Nissan Flat Washer Style Wheel Lock - 2009 370Z

wstar · 04-07-2009, 05:27 PM

We should sticky something about this and change the title so that new owners see it, this is going to be an issue for a *lot* of people I bet.

I just got back from visiting the service manager at my dealer. I gave him the rundown about the broken wheel stud report here, and the differing locking nut part numbers available from Nissan. Sure enough, they've been putting the wrong lock nuts on all of their 370's, not just mine. He had three more on the showroom floor already equipped with the wrong ones. He's ordering a bunch of replacements for all his stock and for my car (and hopefully for anyone else that has purchased in the meantime, I didn't ask or think to until I got home).

He gave me some plain wheel nuts (of the correct type) to put on my car for now and offered to install them himself, but I said I'd do it when I got home.

He says Nissan never notified them about the availability (much less *requirement* apparently) of different lock nuts for the 370Z's wheels. They had never heard of the part before I walked in and told them to look it up. They've been using the same "standard" locknuts they use on every car. I think it's fair to assume a lot of dealers are going to be in the same clueless boat about this.

SoCal 370Z · 04-07-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

We should sticky something about this and change the title so that new owners see it...

We can call it: Launching Locking Lugs and What You Should Know by JoeyD!

semtex · 04-07-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

We should sticky something about this and change the title so that new owners see it, this is going to be an issue for a *lot* of people I bet.

I just got back from visiting the service manager at my dealer. I gave him the rundown about the broken wheel stud report here, and the differing locking nut part numbers available from Nissan. Sure enough, they've been putting the wrong lock nuts on all of their 370's, not just mine. He had three more on the showroom floor already equipped with the wrong ones. He's ordering a bunch of replacements for all his stock and for my car (and hopefully for anyone else that has purchased in the meantime, I didn't ask or think to until I got home).

He gave me some plain wheel nuts (of the correct type) to put on my car for now and offered to install them himself, but I said I'd do it when I got home.

He says Nissan never notified them about the availability (much less *requirement* apparently) of different lock nuts for the 370Z's wheels. They had never heard of the part before I walked in and told them to look it up. They've been using the same "standard" locknuts they use on every car. I think it's fair to assume a lot of dealers are going to be in the same clueless boat about this.

Speaking of clueless, you guys realize this all has been covered already in this thread, right? Wheels Locks

I warned everyone in that thread not to use Nissan's standard wheel locks, and supplied the McGard part number for the shank-style locks that do work (this was before Nissan caught up and started selling them under their own name). I've had them on my Z since January without issue.

SoCal 370Z · 04-07-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Speaking of clueless, you guys realize this all has been covered already in this thread, right? Wheels Locks

Well hell, as if I'm packing an AA-12 with FRAG-12 ammo!

bdanna · 04-12-2009, 09:35 PM

add me to the list of those 370Z's with the wrong wheel locks installed by the dealer. Read this thread, checked mine and unfortunately they are the tapered locks, the wrong ones. Fortunately, no harm no foul, I re-installed the stock lugs that they conveniently left me in the glove box. The locking lugs the dealer installed couldn't have been torqued to anything greater than 20#'s, they were just above finger tight. No idea what the dealership is/was thinking, are these guys clueless?

Thanks guys, for bringing this to light.

ChrisSlicks · 04-12-2009, 09:43 PM

They can't be torqued correctly because they are the wrong ones. Glad you were able to remove them and didn't try and tighten them.

04-06-2009, 02:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Got mine fixed this morning. Pity they didnt jack my wheel up w/ the curb rash on it lol I warned them, and they'll probably be removing them from all 370's. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

04-07-2009, 12:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	I'm pretty sure I have the same ones pictured multiple times earlier too. They were on the car when I received it, presumably installed by the dealer. Seems to be some kind of standard-issue Nissan locking lug thing. I haven't had any issues yet, but I'd rather not have any in the future. I hadn't thought about the fact that these don't have washers like the other lugs. Is this really an issue? Should I get them off the car? __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-06-2009, 03:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 187	At least the remainder of the lug can be removed without damaging the wheel. It could be a lot worse...also could have been prevented with a little common sense. One of these things is not like the other....? __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

04-07-2009, 01:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 187	Yeah. CRAP! I should get a refund for the price of those stupid lugs. The absolute WORST thing about this whole debacle is that the proper lugs are available. CourtesyParts :: Nissan Flat Washer Style Wheel Lock - 2009 370Z __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

04-07-2009, 05:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	We should sticky something about this and change the title so that new owners see it, this is going to be an issue for a lot of people I bet. I just got back from visiting the service manager at my dealer. I gave him the rundown about the broken wheel stud report here, and the differing locking nut part numbers available from Nissan. Sure enough, they've been putting the wrong lock nuts on all of their 370's, not just mine. He had three more on the showroom floor already equipped with the wrong ones. He's ordering a bunch of replacements for all his stock and for my car (and hopefully for anyone else that has purchased in the meantime, I didn't ask or think to until I got home). He gave me some plain wheel nuts (of the correct type) to put on my car for now and offered to install them himself, but I said I'd do it when I got home. He says Nissan never notified them about the availability (much less requirement apparently) of different lock nuts for the 370Z's wheels. They had never heard of the part before I walked in and told them to look it up. They've been using the same "standard" locknuts they use on every car. I think it's fair to assume a lot of dealers are going to be in the same clueless boat about this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

04-06-2009, 02:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
iceman21_23 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: league city, tx Posts: 757 Drives: 09' Solid Red 370z Rep Power: 18	btw the invoice i had inside the package said these wheel locks are for g37 sedans

04-12-2009, 09:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
bdanna Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 60 Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z, 03 Evo Rep Power: 17	add me to the list of those 370Z's with the wrong wheel locks installed by the dealer. Read this thread, checked mine and unfortunately they are the tapered locks, the wrong ones. Fortunately, no harm no foul, I re-installed the stock lugs that they conveniently left me in the glove box. The locking lugs the dealer installed couldn't have been torqued to anything greater than 20#'s, they were just above finger tight. No idea what the dealership is/was thinking, are these guys clueless? Thanks guys, for bringing this to light.

04-12-2009, 09:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	They can't be torqued correctly because they are the wrong ones. Glad you were able to remove them and didn't try and tighten them.

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