F14 fitment

Mike · 03-04-2011, 09:00 PM

that will be super agressive in the front. the wheels will stick out 27mm farther than stock. Look at the silver one up above that is +24. he is dropped, so has more camber, which brings the top of the tire in a little. Yours would stick out 4mm farther than his. If you aren't lowered, your are better off with a +27 up front to be safe. That would be the same as running a 20mm spacer on stock wheels.

For the rears, you will stick out 10mm farther, but your really want to stick out about 20mm farther, so you should get a +10 offset on a 10" rim.

oleg · 03-04-2011, 09:14 PM

I was Planing on dropping the car as low as it can go with out scraping once I get these rims and sell my stock once. So if I'll be lowering the car and most likely running a camber kit should I still go with +24 front and +10 rear?

djpathfinder · 03-05-2011, 01:18 AM

The front offset is aggressive enough. The rear could possibly be a little more aggressive to match the front...say +3 to +5, if on a 19x10. That's equivalent to a 25mm spacer on stock wheels.

oleg · 03-05-2011, 01:29 AM

i really did not want to run spacers because of the bad stuff I read about them but so far thats looking like my only option.

nuTinmuch · 03-05-2011, 01:40 AM

I know some people had quality issues with these in the past.

Are they much better now or...?

speedworks · 03-05-2011, 07:30 AM

I don't know guys, I don't think a 19x9 with 24 is the right offset for the front if you are lowered and drive aggressive. I think this gets some rubbing of the inner fender well. People have said that with 20mm spacers on stockies that they get some rub. I don't want any rub, especially on aggresive high g turns. I think for the front with 19.9 24 is too much, maybe go in 5mm.

It seems that 15mm was the best for the front with spacers and oem wheels. Those that put 20mm on had rub issues. so if you apply that 15mm to 9 inch wheel, that should mean the fronts should be 32 offset. Nismofo, you say you get some rubbing (of inner plastic), at some conditions - i don't want it at all, so in my mind 24 is too aggressive if you don't want any fender/plastic contact. So the question i have is how far can go in from 32 and still not get any contact, during all driving condition (full compression, turning, on swift suspension).

djpathfinder · 03-05-2011, 10:33 AM

Well, the offset numbers are on the table. If you're still afraid of rub then go somewhere between +24 and +32 and call it a day...say +28. If you plan on running a front tire wider than 255 (eg 265 or 275) you may need to run a 9.5 width wheel, in which case add 6 mm to the 19x9 offset to keep backspacing the same. Running something as thick as 275 in front you can run up to 10 mm more aggressive than stock (19x9+37) without rubbing, according to some members.

rarwz · 03-14-2011, 10:17 AM

As long as we're on the subject...
touring (no sport) looking at f14. I went to quite a few threads and came up with this. I am NOT looking for a drop, or any suspension upgrades as i already scrape enough.

Forgestar F14:
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19x9 +24 for the front
19x11 +24 for the back

Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110:
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255/35ZR19 for the front
305/30ZR19 for the back

Muteki SR35 Lug Nuts (black/closed)
Move TPMS over to the Forgestars.

I'm not looking for super aggressive or anything, just a 'standard' kind of install. Anyone see any issues with these specs?

djpathfinder · 03-14-2011, 11:04 AM

The front might be a tad aggressive at 19x9 +24. Look at my signature picture. That is stock height with front an equivalent of 19x9 +32 (using a 15mm spacer). Yes, I'm making a right hand turn, so the suspension on the driver's side is a little compressed, but you can still get an idea of how the front tire sits in relation to the wheel well. For stock height, I probably wouldn't go more aggressive than +27 offset if you have a choice. I would tend to go closer to +32 myself (for stock height and stock camber).

NISMOFO · 03-14-2011, 11:58 PM

rarwz,

If you truly believe you won't lower the car (at all) then that is something you really need to decide before you pick offsets and tires. Like djpatherfinder said, stock camber is a huge factor vs. a lowered car. Once you drop the car, the camber sucks the wheels in and you might wish you had gotten a more aggressive offset or different tire.

I have the exact widths/offsets you mentioned above on my Forgestars. With stock height, your car might look a little funny with those tire sizes because they're both smaller than stock. Just a thought. 245/40 and 295/35 might be an optimal choice for a stock height car.

Send me a PM, and I'll provide you some pictures.

djpathfinder · 03-15-2011, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMOFO

rarwz,

If you truly believe you won't lower the car (at all) then that is something you really need to decide before you pick offsets and tires. Like djpatherfinder said, stock camber is a huge factor vs. a lowered car. Once you drop the car, the camber sucks the wheels in and you might wish you had gotten a more aggressive offset or different tire.

I have the exact widths/offsets you mentioned above on my Forgestars. With stock height, your car might look a little funny with those tire sizes because they're both smaller than stock. Just a thought. 245/40 and 295/35 might be an optimal choice for a stock height car.

Send me a PM, and I'll provide you some pictures.

Actually, 255/305 is larger than stock (245/275), but they will look fine and FUNCTION fine. A lot of people are running the same combo (and some at stock height with stock wheels). I think it will fit in the wheel wells properly given that the offsets are correct. RARWZ, Are you looking for slightly or moderately aggressive (flush vertically with the wheel well) or extremely aggressive (approaching hella flush)? If you're looking for slightly or moderately, then err the offset on the slightly conservative side. If going extremely aggressive, get those offsets close to 0 or even a little negative, then play around with lots of negative camber front and back to make them fit. Plus, the more "hella flush" you go, the more you'll have to lower.

From what I gather (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like you want to maintain stock height and want to go either slightly or moderately aggressive. My suggestions for offsets in my earlier post was meant for that. 255/305 tires should work out fine, so long as the wheel widths are within what the tire manufacturer recommends.

NISMOFO · 03-15-2011, 01:07 AM

255/35 & 305/30 are not stock sizes in diameter...they are smaller. Stock is around 26.6 to 26.7" diameter depending on the brand you choose. With Hankook for example, the 255/35 is 26" and the 305/50 is 26.3".

Now I love the 255/35 & 305/30 combo myself, but yeah you'll want some higher offsets than +24 maybe if you're leaving it stock height. If not, a 245/40 & 295/35 is for someone very picky about stock diameter...they are just not as wide (could be heavier).

I have 255/40

& 305/30

right now. This is just the tires that the wheels came with, but I plan on changing the fronts when they are worn.

These are the exact wheel specs you mentioned with +24 all around, but with a Eibach Pro Kit -0.9"/-0.8" drop. Obviously if you raise the car up a little the wheels jump out easily toward the fenders.

I have -1.4 front / -1.6 rear camber in these pics and a full tank of gas.

djpathfinder · 03-15-2011, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NISMOFO

255/35 & 305/30 are not stock sizes in diameter...they are smaller. Stock is around 26.6 to 26.7" diameter depending on the brand you choose. With Hankook for example, the 255/35 is 26" and the 305/50 is 26.3".

Now I love the 255/35 & 305/30 combo myself, but yeah you'll want some higher offsets than +24 maybe if you're leaving it stock height. If not, a 245/40 & 295/35 is for someone very picky about stock diameter...they are just not as wide (could be heavier).

I have 255/40

& 305/30

right now. This is just the tires that the wheels came with, but I plan on changing the fronts when they are worn.

These are the exact wheel specs you mentioned with +24 all around, but with a Eibach Pro Kit -0.9"/-0.8" drop. Obviously if you raise the car up a little the wheels jump out easily toward the fenders.

I have -1.4 front / -1.6 rear camber in these pics and a full tank of gas.

Sorry, I totally misread your last post...You're talking DIAMETER and I was thinking WIDTH (...whatchu talking about, Willis...what's wrong with those widths)??? LOL. Though the difference from 26.6" to 26" is only a little more than 2% difference, and well within tolerance (2% change in speedometer). The more important thing is to have front and rear diameters match as closely as possible so that it doesn't screw up the ABS sensors. Having said that, a up to 0.6 to 0.7" difference front and back is also acceptable.

Back to the original statement, I agree with you that you agree with me about higher offset (more positive) is good for stock height and camber.

NISMOFO · 03-15-2011, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder

Sorry, I totally misread your last post...You're talking DIAMETER and I was thinking WIDTH (...whatchu talking about, Willis...what's wrong with those widths)??? LOL. Though the difference from 26.6" to 26" is only a little more than 2% difference, and well within tolerance (2% change in speedometer). The more important thing is to have front and rear diameters match as closely as possible so that it doesn't screw up the ABS sensors. Having said that, a up to 0.6 to 0.7" difference front and back is also acceptable.

Back to the original statement, I agree with you that you agree with me about higher offset (more positive) is good for stock height and camber.

And I agree with that...LOL. Yeah I realized after the fact that one of us was talking width and the other diameter. Buying wheels is a huge decision, so I hope we somehow helped him.

One other thing to mention about offset. The 370z nismo wheels stick out 30mm more in the rear than front. The +24 with 9" / 11" combo makes the rear stick out only 26mm more. So for a stock height car with no crazy camber maybe having the fronts in another 4mm would be a good idea?

djpathfinder · 03-15-2011, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NISMOFO

So for a stock height car with no crazy camber maybe having the fronts in another 4mm would be a good idea?

Indeed!

03-04-2011, 09:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	that will be super agressive in the front. the wheels will stick out 27mm farther than stock. Look at the silver one up above that is +24. he is dropped, so has more camber, which brings the top of the tire in a little. Yours would stick out 4mm farther than his. If you aren't lowered, your are better off with a +27 up front to be safe. That would be the same as running a 20mm spacer on stock wheels. For the rears, you will stick out 10mm farther, but your really want to stick out about 20mm farther, so you should get a +10 offset on a 10" rim. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

03-05-2011, 01:18 AM	#33 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	The front offset is aggressive enough. The rear could possibly be a little more aggressive to match the front...say +3 to +5, if on a 19x10. That's equivalent to a 25mm spacer on stock wheels. __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD

03-05-2011, 01:40 AM	#35 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 18	I know some people had quality issues with these in the past. Are they much better now or...? __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

03-05-2011, 07:30 AM	#36 (permalink)
speedworks Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 550 Drives: PW purchased 01/09 Rep Power: 17	I don't know guys, I don't think a 19x9 with 24 is the right offset for the front if you are lowered and drive aggressive. I think this gets some rubbing of the inner fender well. People have said that with 20mm spacers on stockies that they get some rub. I don't want any rub, especially on aggresive high g turns. I think for the front with 19.9 24 is too much, maybe go in 5mm. It seems that 15mm was the best for the front with spacers and oem wheels. Those that put 20mm on had rub issues. so if you apply that 15mm to 9 inch wheel, that should mean the fronts should be 32 offset. Nismofo, you say you get some rubbing (of inner plastic), at some conditions - i don't want it at all, so in my mind 24 is too aggressive if you don't want any fender/plastic contact. So the question i have is how far can go in from 32 and still not get any contact, during all driving condition (full compression, turning, on swift suspension). Last edited by speedworks; 03-05-2011 at 07:48 AM.

03-05-2011, 10:33 AM	#37 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	Well, the offset numbers are on the table. If you're still afraid of rub then go somewhere between +24 and +32 and call it a day...say +28. If you plan on running a front tire wider than 255 (eg 265 or 275) you may need to run a 9.5 width wheel, in which case add 6 mm to the 19x9 offset to keep backspacing the same. Running something as thick as 275 in front you can run up to 10 mm more aggressive than stock (19x9+37) without rubbing, according to some members. __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD Last edited by djpathfinder; 03-05-2011 at 10:37 AM.

03-04-2011, 09:14 PM	#32 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 15	I was Planing on dropping the car as low as it can go with out scraping once I get these rims and sell my stock once. So if I'll be lowering the car and most likely running a camber kit should I still go with +24 front and +10 rear?

03-05-2011, 01:29 AM	#34 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 15	i really did not want to run spacers because of the bad stuff I read about them but so far thats looking like my only option.

03-14-2011, 10:17 AM	#38 (permalink)
rarwz Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 370z Posts: 178 Drives: 09 Touring Rep Power: 15	As long as we're on the subject... touring (no sport) looking at f14. I went to quite a few threads and came up with this. I am NOT looking for a drop, or any suspension upgrades as i already scrape enough. Forgestar F14: -------------- 19x9 +24 for the front 19x11 +24 for the back Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110: -------------- 255/35ZR19 for the front 305/30ZR19 for the back Muteki SR35 Lug Nuts (black/closed) Move TPMS over to the Forgestars. I'm not looking for super aggressive or anything, just a 'standard' kind of install. Anyone see any issues with these specs?

03-14-2011, 11:04 AM	#39 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	The front might be a tad aggressive at 19x9 +24. Look at my signature picture. That is stock height with front an equivalent of 19x9 +32 (using a 15mm spacer). Yes, I'm making a right hand turn, so the suspension on the driver's side is a little compressed, but you can still get an idea of how the front tire sits in relation to the wheel well. For stock height, I probably wouldn't go more aggressive than +27 offset if you have a choice. I would tend to go closer to +32 myself (for stock height and stock camber). __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD

03-14-2011, 11:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
NISMOFO Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 269 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	rarwz, If you truly believe you won't lower the car (at all) then that is something you really need to decide before you pick offsets and tires. Like djpatherfinder said, stock camber is a huge factor vs. a lowered car. Once you drop the car, the camber sucks the wheels in and you might wish you had gotten a more aggressive offset or different tire. I have the exact widths/offsets you mentioned above on my Forgestars. With stock height, your car might look a little funny with those tire sizes because they're both smaller than stock. Just a thought. 245/40 and 295/35 might be an optimal choice for a stock height car. Send me a PM, and I'll provide you some pictures.

03-15-2011, 01:07 AM	#42 (permalink)
NISMOFO Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 269 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	255/35 & 305/30 are not stock sizes in diameter...they are smaller. Stock is around 26.6 to 26.7" diameter depending on the brand you choose. With Hankook for example, the 255/35 is 26" and the 305/50 is 26.3". Now I love the 255/35 & 305/30 combo myself, but yeah you'll want some higher offsets than +24 maybe if you're leaving it stock height. If not, a 245/40 & 295/35 is for someone very picky about stock diameter...they are just not as wide (could be heavier). I have 255/40 & 305/30 right now. This is just the tires that the wheels came with, but I plan on changing the fronts when they are worn. These are the exact wheel specs you mentioned with +24 all around, but with a Eibach Pro Kit -0.9"/-0.8" drop. Obviously if you raise the car up a little the wheels jump out easily toward the fenders. I have -1.4 front / -1.6 rear camber in these pics and a full tank of gas.

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