Rays Duraluminum lugs

TongMan · 01-25-2011, 04:10 AM

I found these on ebay and I was wondering if it is safe to replace the stock lugs with these lugs from Rays. They are not tuner lugs so they do not fit on aftermarket rims.

RAYS ENGINEERING WHEEL LOCK LUG NUTS M12 x 1.25MM RED - eBay (item 330513156209 end time Jan-28-11 04:53:38 PST)

definitionxmk · 01-25-2011, 05:10 AM

They should be good to go. Not getting aftermarket wheels?

m4a1mustang · 01-25-2011, 06:20 AM

The stock Rays require a cone and washer style lug nut. These look like the cone style that would be fine on a 350 but not 370. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

BuckeyeZ · 01-25-2011, 07:24 AM

It's hard to say from the photos. The stock Rays wheels use what is called a 'lug centered' wheel, which means the lugnuts center the wheel when they are tightened. These look flat on the back which means that they are intended for a 'hub centered' wheel, which means the wheel centers itself on the hub when installed and a flat lug nut is required to hold the wheel in place.

Unless you can get more information from the seller or a better picture......I would say to pass on these.

m4a1mustang · 01-25-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ

It's hard to say from the photos. The stock Rays wheels use what is called a 'lug centered' wheel, which means the lugnuts center the wheel when they are tightened. These look flat on the back which means that they are intended for a 'hub centered' wheel, which means the wheel centers itself on the hub when installed and a flat lug nut is required to hold the wheel in place.

Unless you can get more information from the seller or a better picture......I would say to pass on these.

I found some more pictures of them and confirmed that they are a cone style. Either way, you're right, as we can't use a cone or flat lugnut on the stock Rays.

SPOHN · 01-25-2011, 09:50 AM

They are cone shaped. I look at some but couldn't justify the price. This design is actually called conical. If my mind recalls I believe there about a 60 degree angle. My AME's called for them. I went with some MXP lugs, open ended. There made by Rays.

m4a1mustang · 01-25-2011, 09:56 AM

kenchan · 01-25-2011, 10:48 AM

umm... no offense but does XXR wheels deserve Volk lightweight lugs?

i would stick with something cheaper. would suck if you walk out to your car and find that your lugs got stolen but wheels are still there.

m4a1mustang · 01-25-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

umm... no offense but does XXR wheels deserve Volk lightweight lugs?

i would stick with something cheaper. would suck if you walk out to your car and find that your lugs got stolen but wheels are still there.

Ken strikes again.

TongMan · 01-25-2011, 11:10 AM

unfortunately, I had already bought it. Here is a comparison between the stock, rays, and gorilla tuner lugs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

umm... no offense but does XXR wheels deserve Volk lightweight lugs?

i would stick with something cheaper. would suck if you walk out to your car and find that your lugs got stolen but wheels are still there.

I agree, that would suck but I am also glad that I didn't buy some $5,000 rims at the same time. LOL

m4a1mustang · 01-25-2011, 11:13 AM

Yeah, you only want to use the OEM lugs on the stock Rays. Your wheels will literally fall off the car.

TongMan · 01-25-2011, 11:20 AM

Using the stock lugs on the Rays would be safer. Time to look for another set of blue lugs that will fit safely.

kenchan · 01-25-2011, 11:31 AM

yah, as mustang mentioned, using lugcentric lugs on hubcentric wheels = disaster waiting to happen. they are completely different by design structure and not compatible.

Chris_1 · 01-30-2011, 01:16 PM

I like that color, what are you trying to match with them?

kenchan · 01-30-2011, 01:54 PM

Chris- slow day at the office?

01-25-2011, 04:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	Rays Duraluminum lugs I found these on ebay and I was wondering if it is safe to replace the stock lugs with these lugs from Rays. They are not tuner lugs so they do not fit on aftermarket rims. RAYS ENGINEERING WHEEL LOCK LUG NUTS M12 x 1.25MM RED - eBay (item 330513156209 end time Jan-28-11 04:53:38 PST) Last edited by TongMan; 01-25-2011 at 04:15 AM.

01-25-2011, 05:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
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01-25-2011, 06:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The stock Rays require a cone and washer style lug nut. These look like the cone style that would be fine on a 350 but not 370. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-25-2011, 09:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	They are cone shaped. I look at some but couldn't justify the price. This design is actually called conical. If my mind recalls I believe there about a 60 degree angle. My AME's called for them. I went with some MXP lugs, open ended. There made by Rays. __________________

01-25-2011, 09:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	__________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-25-2011, 07:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
BuckeyeZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Music City Posts: 291 Drives: 370Z BMW M4 Rep Power: 65	It's hard to say from the photos. The stock Rays wheels use what is called a 'lug centered' wheel, which means the lugnuts center the wheel when they are tightened. These look flat on the back which means that they are intended for a 'hub centered' wheel, which means the wheel centers itself on the hub when installed and a flat lug nut is required to hold the wheel in place. Unless you can get more information from the seller or a better picture......I would say to pass on these.

01-25-2011, 10:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	umm... no offense but does XXR wheels deserve Volk lightweight lugs? i would stick with something cheaper. would suck if you walk out to your car and find that your lugs got stolen but wheels are still there.

01-25-2011, 11:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah, you only want to use the OEM lugs on the stock Rays. Your wheels will literally fall off the car. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-25-2011, 11:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	Using the stock lugs on the Rays would be safer. Time to look for another set of blue lugs that will fit safely.

01-25-2011, 11:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, as mustang mentioned, using lugcentric lugs on hubcentric wheels = disaster waiting to happen. they are completely different by design structure and not compatible.

01-30-2011, 01:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chris_1 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Statewide Posts: 838 Drives: Nissan 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 16	I like that color, what are you trying to match with them?

01-30-2011, 01:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Chris- slow day at the office?

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