Small nail in tire, plug or inside patch?

Trips

What about the Dealer? at least if they fuk it up? You stand a better chance for a repair or replacement.

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PapoZalsa

I'm going to call the Nissan dealers tomorrow around the area to see if they fix tires.

Thanks

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steveg78

Sorry just couldn't resist after reading this thread!

cab83_750

Well, I guess with technology, the 'plug' is making a comeback (at least per the article below). I am open to this now (again):

Tire Repair: Patch vs Plug

Q. When I first began driving in the late 1950's, if you got a nail in your tire the only way to fix it was with a "plug" which would be inserted moments after removing the nail. As radials became more prevalent, dismounting the tire and applying a patch on the inside was apparently the preferred method of repair.


Now I notice that the plug repair technique is making a comeback and in many instances is the preferred method. Please comment about the pros and cons of each method as it applies to todays steel belted radials.

A. In the old days plugs were used because they were quick and reliable. If the injury was a simple nail, a tire could be repaired in no time. If the tire was cut, then patching was preferred to completely seal the odd shaped hole. Then when radial tires came out it was found that plugs would warp the tire and make them ride differently. That's when patches became the preferred method of repairing a tire. There were two kinds of patches, cold and hot.

The cold patch required buffing the inside of the tire and applying a cement. Then the correct sized patch was placed over the injury and a special tool was used to "stitch" the patch to the tire. I don't mean stitching in the sense it was sewn on, but that this special tool was rolled over the patch until it was sealed against the tire. The drawback to this method was if you didn't do everything perfectly, the patch would leak.

Hot patching involved essentially the same procedure except the patch was heated and melted to the inside of the tire. There was a special heating clamp that went on the tire to do this. It usually took about 15 minutes to heat the patch to the tire. The advantage of this method was that the tire and patch become one piece.

Now we have plugs that are designed to repair radial tires and are self-vulcanizing. That is to say after they heat up from driving, they "melt" into the tire and become one piece. This is again the preferred method because it is much faster to do. If, as in the old days, a tire was cut then patching is the best way to go.

Patching a tire can take about 30 minutes and installing a plug takes a few minutes and usually can be done while the tire is still on the car. Patching a tire can cost $10.00 to $15.00 and plugging can cost as little as $2.00 but usually $5.00.

kenchan

I would do the self plug. Its not like the tire is going to explode just from that. If it wasn't for the small scissors that cut through the tread on mine it would've just plugged it myself from he outside. Fking tireshop with the right equipment but failed staff made a few marks on my wheel on the spokes. I was very pissed.

PapoZalsa

I'm still trying to decide, I call around but they have to see the tire.

Not that I'm cheap but to me it doesn't make sense for that small of a nail to have a patch and risk having the OEM rim f*ck up by some idiot.

But I'm taking the car to my friends shop that I know he will do the right thing even that is like 40 mins away.

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PapoZalsa

What is wrong with asking? This is the first time I have a problem with a tire on the 350Z that I had or my 370Z.

Unless you want to be an a**hole.... I don't lose anything by asking when someone could had the same thing happen to them.

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Z2nv

those plugs are junk, take it to a shop and get it done properly. If they scatch your rim they have to replace it or have it fix no questions asked. inless they say before doing the tire repair " if we scatch the rim theres NO warranty."

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PapoZalsa

That is what I'm going to do to be on the sure side.

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kenchan

Plugs work fine if done right.

PapoZalsa

Got the tire repair today! Off the list...

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Zerafian

let a professional plug your tire...it only cost like $15...or get it plugged at a dealership for $30

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antennahead

100% correct, a vulcanizing plug is the way to go. A patch on the inside won't stop water from entering the hole in rain conditions, and if you keep the tire for a long time could actually affect the steel belts. The tire industry is a racket at local shops like Goodyear, with their "it's too close to the sidwall, you have to buy a new tire" bullshit. In many cases the nail is a good inch or more away from the sidewall. Go online and search and read, do some homework, a vulcanizing plug works great. I had 3 plugs in one rear and 2 in the other on my old 350 and drove those tires for 20,000 miles, daily driver, with zero issues.

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