Question about Nitrogen

sonic370 · 10-05-2010, 07:25 PM

This may be posted somewhere else sorry if it has.

Does anyone use or recommend using nitrogen in these tires.
Does it make any difference at all or is it just a waste of time.

6spd · 10-05-2010, 07:47 PM

good luck getting a real answer, as there really is none. people are gonna go both ways here. here is the breakdown of the "supposed" goods and bads:

Goods:
More stable handling
Better gas mileage
Better ability to maintain pressure

Bads:
Cost...
Cost...
Cost...

According to some industry mags i get at my shop, the real reason for nitrogen is because it doesn't have any water vapor in it. The water vapor in regular air can wreak havoc on the TPM sensors in the wheels, corroding them and causing the light to come on.

I believe the latter explanation. Its up to you to decide what to believe.

kenchan · 10-05-2010, 08:41 PM

Its a pita unless you have nitrogen at home.

6spd · 10-05-2010, 08:44 PM

yeah, you can have it put in when you get new tires if you want, but you might as well top off when you have to with regular air.

geterdone · 10-05-2010, 11:20 PM

The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, complete waste of money. Only pro is that is helps reduce the impact of a blowout, that is why NHRA car's use it. It is pretty much a snake oil mod.

wilsonp · 10-05-2010, 11:23 PM

My understanding is it reduces pressure changed from heating while racing, so it helps keep tire pressures consistent, but isn't really helpful on the street.

Auston · 10-05-2010, 11:27 PM

The dealer has it for free here. It's supposed to help maintain tire pressure more
consistently, but I find I still lose a couple lbs a week

FERRARI · 10-16-2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geterdone

The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, complete waste of money. Only pro is that is helps reduce the impact of a blowout, that is why NHRA car's use it. It is pretty much a snake oil mod.

Elemental nitrogen is a colorless, odorless, tasteless and mostly inert diatomic gas at standard conditions, constituting 78.08% by volume of Earth's atmosphere

Dont waste your money....all of the claims are not true......

Ztoon · 10-17-2010, 01:03 AM

Use helium.
Reduces weight of vehicle to nearly zero.

Waiz · 10-17-2010, 01:37 AM

I went to get my tires topped off today and I think they've just been filling them with air even though they told me it was Nitrogen.

I took a look at the machine that they were filling the tires with and I couldn't tell otherwise, it's free for me but it was funny nonetheless that they would lie.

6spd · 10-17-2010, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waizzz

I went to get my tires topped off today and I think they've just been filling them with air even though they told me it was Nitrogen.

I took a look at the machine that they were filling the tires with and I couldn't tell otherwise, it's free for me but it was funny nonetheless that they would lie.

im sure their no the only ones!

FERRARI · 10-18-2010, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ztoon

Use helium.
Reduces weight of vehicle to nearly zero.

Hey !!!! fill the spare too.....and you will be able to lift off the ground !!!

[QUOTE=Waizzz;769026]I went to get my tires topped off today and I think they've just been filling them with air even though they told me it was Nitrogen.

AIR IS 78.8% NITROGEN !!!!! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ANOTHER 20% NITROGEN WOULD make any difference ?? Come on !

Waiz · 10-18-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI

AIR IS 78.8% NITROGEN !!!!! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ANOTHER 20% NITROGEN WOULD make any difference ?? Come on !

Calm down chief, it's not that serious.

wilsonp · 10-18-2010, 07:56 PM

The point of using Nitrogen (at the track) isn't to remove the last 20% but to remove the moisture from the tire. Moisture in the tire expands more with heat, having a greater pressure affect than dry air.

If you used a/c air in your tire it would probably be as good

kenchan · 10-18-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ztoon

Use helium.
Reduces weight of vehicle to nearly zero.

10-05-2010, 07:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	Question about Nitrogen This may be posted somewhere else sorry if it has. Does anyone use or recommend using nitrogen in these tires. Does it make any difference at all or is it just a waste of time.

10-05-2010, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	good luck getting a real answer, as there really is none. people are gonna go both ways here. here is the breakdown of the "supposed" goods and bads: Goods: More stable handling Better gas mileage Better ability to maintain pressure Bads: Cost... Cost... Cost... According to some industry mags i get at my shop, the real reason for nitrogen is because it doesn't have any water vapor in it. The water vapor in regular air can wreak havoc on the TPM sensors in the wheels, corroding them and causing the light to come on. I believe the latter explanation. Its up to you to decide what to believe. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-05-2010, 08:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	yeah, you can have it put in when you get new tires if you want, but you might as well top off when you have to with regular air. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-05-2010, 11:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
geterdone Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yukon, Oklahoma Posts: 27 Drives: None Rep Power: 15	The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, complete waste of money. Only pro is that is helps reduce the impact of a blowout, that is why NHRA car's use it. It is pretty much a snake oil mod. Last edited by geterdone; 10-07-2010 at 01:45 AM.

10-05-2010, 11:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	My understanding is it reduces pressure changed from heating while racing, so it helps keep tire pressures consistent, but isn't really helpful on the street. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-05-2010, 08:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Its a pita unless you have nitrogen at home.

10-05-2010, 11:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Auston Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 764 Drives: 2009 Z34 T+S RAE Rep Power: 17	The dealer has it for free here. It's supposed to help maintain tire pressure more consistently, but I find I still lose a couple lbs a week

10-17-2010, 01:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ztoon Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 578 Drives: '09 370a7 Rep Power: 25	Use helium. Reduces weight of vehicle to nearly zero. __________________ Stillen G3\|CBE\|ground kit, F.I. H.F.C., C.F. fangs\|mirrors\|pillars, Hotchkis, SSR Type-F, RE-11, UpRev, BC BR coilovers 15% tint, LED black hdlts, color match handles, Dynamat, tail lt. tint, Mines C.F. frt. lip\|rear spoiler, Amuse rear,skirts, vented fenders, c.f. vented hood, gloss blk. roof

10-17-2010, 01:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	I went to get my tires topped off today and I think they've just been filling them with air even though they told me it was Nitrogen. I took a look at the machine that they were filling the tires with and I couldn't tell otherwise, it's free for me but it was funny nonetheless that they would lie.

10-18-2010, 07:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	The point of using Nitrogen (at the track) isn't to remove the last 20% but to remove the moisture from the tire. Moisture in the tire expands more with heat, having a greater pressure affect than dry air. If you used a/c air in your tire it would probably be as good __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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