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import111 09-01-2010 01:36 AM

NT05 or RE11 or AD08?
 
Replacing my front tires sometime in the next month and I am having a hard time deciding which tires to get. I track my car about 4 times a year and drive very aggressively on the street, which is why I am choosing between NT05's, RE11's and AD08's. I was originally going to go 265/35/19 RE11's up front but I don't want to spend that much $ and I don't need to be that much more tail happy than I am already, so I think sticking with 245's up front will be good.

#1 priority to me is handling. I want to be as fast around the race track as I can. Some say NT05's are slow, some say they are fast...very confusing findings on these tires (I am running them in the rear stock size and they seem great back there to me).

#2 priority is a toss up between price and longevity, which I guess are related. NT05's are cheapest, but they start with 7/32 of tread...but my NT05's on my rears seem to be holding up just fine. AD08's are the costliest, but also have the widest tread width, and I hear they have very stiff sidewalls which I like...and I hear the RE11 has pretty soft sidewalls, which I don't like...and the RE11 is the narrowest of the 3.

Road noise and comfort do not matter to me at all. Wet traction doesn't matter much to me either, though I would put wet traction above noise and comfort.

So what should I get? Which tire will get me around the track the quickest while lasting a decent amount of time?

FuszNissan 09-01-2010 07:08 AM

I have used NT05's and RE-11's
RE-11's are better in the rain, less road noise, and more comfortable.

I can't comment on the AD08's, I have never used them.

But I would hands down get RE11's

ChrisSlicks 09-01-2010 07:37 AM

RE-11 will have the most grip of the 3. The outside sidewall on the RE-11 is plenty stiff, it's the inside they make a little softer but it is still stiff compared to other tires.

Supergoji 09-01-2010 08:06 AM

actually AD08's will have the most grip and stiffest sidewalls. better use as a dry only tire.
it'll give you the best track times.

RE-11 is close second.

cossie1600 09-01-2010 08:13 AM

It's a toss up between the RE11 and AD08. I can beat the guy running AD08 on his nismo 350 at autox consistently by a few tenths, he did beat me at the track by a couple tenths Friday. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. I chose RE11 because they were cheaper at the time after the rebate. I paid $1060 installed after rebate

I did 3 track days, 120 autox runs and 5000 street miles on the RE11, I still have 3 to 4/32nd on it.

RCZ 09-01-2010 09:19 AM

RE11 or AD08 also my choices. Considered NT01's??

ChrisSlicks 09-01-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 703195)
RE11 or AD08 also my choices. Considered NT01's??

NT01's are a fantastic track tire but make a horrible street tire. I'll drive on them to nearby tracks but that is about all I can bare.

cossie1600 09-01-2010 10:32 AM

if you are willing to pay the price, the old toyo ra1s are great too

import111 09-01-2010 08:55 PM

No NT01's or RA1's. No R-comps for me. Staying street tire. Leaning towards AD08's even though they cost more than the other 2.

Red__Zed 09-01-2010 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 703195)
RE11 or AD08 also my choices. Considered NT01's??

not a reasonable street tire.

BGTV8 09-01-2010 11:16 PM

Take a look at Dunlop Direzza as well ... realtively quiet on the road, good track grip in wet andf dry, BUT I have no idea about durability yet.

cossie1600 09-01-2010 11:50 PM

just want to add that 265 285 still plows like my prius. i dont see how your car with 245 fronts can even turn

Quote:

Originally Posted by import111 (Post 703016)
Replacing my front tires sometime in the next month and I am having a hard time deciding which tires to get. I track my car about 4 times a year and drive very aggressively on the street, which is why I am choosing between NT05's, RE11's and AD08's. I was originally going to go 265/35/19 RE11's up front but I don't want to spend that much $ and I don't need to be that much more tail happy than I am already, so I think sticking with 245's up front will be good.

#1 priority to me is handling. I want to be as fast around the race track as I can. Some say NT05's are slow, some say they are fast...very confusing findings on these tires (I am running them in the rear stock size and they seem great back there to me).

#2 priority is a toss up between price and longevity, which I guess are related. NT05's are cheapest, but they start with 7/32 of tread...but my NT05's on my rears seem to be holding up just fine. AD08's are the costliest, but also have the widest tread width, and I hear they have very stiff sidewalls which I like...and I hear the RE11 has pretty soft sidewalls, which I don't like...and the RE11 is the narrowest of the 3.

Road noise and comfort do not matter to me at all. Wet traction doesn't matter much to me either, though I would put wet traction above noise and comfort.

So what should I get? Which tire will get me around the track the quickest while lasting a decent amount of time?


import111 09-02-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 704358)
Take a look at Dunlop Direzza as well ... realtively quiet on the road, good track grip in wet andf dry, BUT I have no idea about durability yet.

Had those on my 05 STi when I sold it. I loved them...but they do not make them in 19 inch sizes.

import111 09-02-2010 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 704392)
just want to add that 265 285 still plows like my prius. i dont see how your car with 245 fronts can even turn

Could be a variety of reasons. Suspension setup, tire pressures, driving style, ect.

BGTV8 09-02-2010 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by import111 (Post 704462)
Had those on my 05 STi when I sold it. I loved them...but they do not make them in 19 inch sizes.

Ah Ha !!! Another good reason for sticking with 18" wheels ....19's ad 20's look schmick, but you can't get rubber ....

cossie1600 09-02-2010 08:02 AM

I have stock suspension, but feel free to play with yours to get it to turn. I have tried everything, car doesn't want to turn unless I do something stupid. If you want a fast time, you just have to wait to get back on the throttle

Red__Zed 09-02-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by import111 (Post 704462)
Had those on my 05 STi when I sold it. I loved them...but they do not make them in 19 inch sizes.

+1. IMHO, the best price/ performance balance. I kind of want to stay with 18s so I can use them.

Mike 09-02-2010 10:53 AM

I love the AD-08s. So much so that I am contemplating getting rid of my R-Compounds. They are great on the street and feel very close to my BFG R-1s on the track. Well worth the money.

RCZ 09-02-2010 11:11 AM

I thought someone corrected me last time that they DO make the AD08's in 19... you guys sure they don't? I know they didnt use to...

OMGWTFBBQ 09-02-2010 11:14 AM

They're talking about the Direzza Star Specs not made in 19", not the AD08.

RCZ 09-02-2010 11:30 AM

Ahh, man I gotta focus haha.

XwChriswX 09-02-2010 12:43 PM

Instead of the NT05's what about the iNVO's or Neo-Gens vs the RE-11's?

cossie1600 09-02-2010 01:57 PM

its like comparing a nissan versa at the track against a gtr, they are crap tires

BLUESLATE 09-02-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 704967)
Instead of the NT05's what about the iNVO's or Neo-Gens vs the RE-11's?

Why are you comparing the sh1tty Invos and Neogens??? Invos do well with stretch and Neogens do well with negative cambers. As far as grips go, NT05s piss on those two.

BLUESLATE 09-02-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 705096)
its like comparing a nissan versa at the track against a gtr, they are crap tires

Hahaha... I didn't even read this comment... kinda well put. lol

Versa/Sentra vs. 370Z.

:roflpuke2:

cossie1600 09-02-2010 02:35 PM

when they mention a type of tire at drift events, just run far far away

XwChriswX 09-03-2010 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 705096)
its like comparing a nissan versa at the track against a gtr, they are crap tires

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUESLATE (Post 705125)
Why are you comparing the sh1tty Invos and Neogens??? Invos do well with stretch and Neogens do well with negative cambers. As far as grips go, NT05s piss on those two.

Ok, maybe the 05's are perfect for tracking, but since I won't be tracking the car very often if at all, I don't need ridiculous grip, or responses for that matter... :ugh2:

RCZ 09-03-2010 08:59 AM

NT05's are good street tires, thats what Im running now. Pretty bad in the rain, but driveable nonetheless. Great dry weather tire, but they are pretty loud..

FuszNissan 09-03-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 706146)
NT05's are good street tires, thats what Im running now. Pretty bad in the rain, but driveable nonetheless. Great dry weather tire, but they are pretty loud..

RE-11's will solve all those issues.

OMGWTFBBQ 09-03-2010 11:37 AM

It also makes you faster because your wallet will be lighter therefore better power to weight ratio. :icon17:

cossie1600 09-03-2010 11:50 AM

LOL good one

XwChriswX 09-03-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 706146)
NT05's are good street tires, thats what Im running now. Pretty bad in the rain, but driveable nonetheless. Great dry weather tire, but they are pretty loud..

Thanks RCZ :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 706169)
RE-11's will solve all those issues.

LoL So basically RE-11>all huh? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 706352)
It also makes you faster because your wallet will be lighter therefore better power to weight ratio. :icon17:

:icon18: nice.

FuszNissan 09-03-2010 12:51 PM

I believe so

BLUESLATE 09-03-2010 01:15 PM

RE-11 is definitely a very good choice. AD08 is pretty comparable as well.


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