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gromano 08-26-2010 07:56 PM

Porsche 997 turbo rims on Z?
 
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Hey guys... need alot of help here... I know this sounds like a stupid idea but basically I can get a full set of Porsche 997 Turbo wheels for very cheap off a friend and I need to know if there is a possibility at all of them being mounted on my Z!?

I dont know enough about the stock fitments or the offsets to tell if they would even fit... probably unlikely as the rear wheels are hell wide but I would love them if I could get them on there!!!

Attached is a picture of the wheels im talking about...

All the info I have on them is that they are
Fronts 19 x 8.5 ET56 Part 997-362-156-05
Rears 19 x 11 ET51 Part 997-362-162-02

I have found this Hub Adapter from H&R (see bottom of the page on the link)
2003 Nissan 350Z Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP

But im pretty sure they would be too wide to fit on with a hub adapter that has a 25mm spacer?? Am I right?
Is there an option of re-drilling them?

I saw that someone put Aston Martin rims on a Z but they were the same bolt pattern i think?
Wheel people help me out!!! :tiphat:

Thanks :D

Waiz 08-26-2010 08:16 PM

Wrong bolt pattern and terrible offset.

You should pass.

Trips 08-26-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 696197)
Wrong bolt pattern and terrible offset.

You should pass.

I agree :facepalm:

tbonesteak 08-26-2010 08:36 PM

hahhhaha not gunna work bud.

gromano 08-26-2010 08:48 PM

hahahah farrrrrrk! Was such a good deal and would look so good, not to mention the 11's on the rear. :( hahah

So not even with one of those H&R hub adapters will they fit?
Why is it a terrible offset?

Thanks for the help dudes!!

Red__Zed 08-26-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 696197)
Wrong bolt pattern and terrible offset.

You should pass.

The offset is actually not bad if he is looking to run an adapter-- it's actually pretty decent. Most adapters will effectively space the wheels out 20-30mm.

I guess it depends on how good of a deal you're getting. If you can resell them for more than what you pay (for rims + spacers), I'd test it out...

Jamaica 08-26-2010 09:32 PM

for the price why dont you get something else?

03Z33 08-26-2010 11:03 PM

Funny you ask, I'm running Porsche wheels on my Z too :)
You'll need two pairs of the H&R adapters and they'll bolt right on. You'll want to change the tire sizes though since Porsche tires are too short.
I'd run 225/45/19 or 245/40/19 fronts
285/35/19 or 305/30/19 rears

The front fittment will be a little weak, kind of how 15mm spacers look on the stock front wheels.
Rear will fit very nice with stock alignment, stock ride height or lowered on springs. Should come out a bit more if lowered on coilovers with some extra negative camber.

Your final offsets with the H&R 25mm spacer adapters will be:

19x8.5 et 31 front
19x11.0 et 26 rear

The only bummer is that the stagger is so extreme front to back... It would be better if the fronts where a bit wider since the Z really likes a bit more tire up front. It works well on the Porsche due to the rear engine/ rear weight bias.

gromano 08-26-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33 (Post 696404)
Funny you ask, I'm running Porsche wheels on my Z too :)
You'll need two pairs of the H&R adapters and they'll bolt right on. You'll want to change the tire sizes though since Porsche tires are too short.
I'd run 225/45/19 or 245/40/19 fronts
285/35/19 or 305/30/19 rears

The front fittment will be a little weak, kind of how 15mm spacers look on the stock front wheels.
Rear will fit very nice with stock alignment, stock ride height or lowered on springs. Should come out a bit more if lowered on coilovers with some extra negative camber.

Your final offsets with the H&R 25mm spacer adapters will be:

19x8.5 et 31 front
19x11.0 et 26 rear

The only bummer is that the stagger is so extreme front to back... It would be better if the fronts where a bit wider since the Z really likes a bit more tire up front. It works well on the Porsche due to the rear engine/ rear weight bias.

Thanks heaps for the help mate!!
Do you have any pictures of the porsche rims on your Z? Which ones have you got?

So their will definitely be no rubbing on any suspension components with the wider rims on the back as long as you got those spacers right? The brakes were the other things I was worried about... will it clear sport brakes?

Is it dangerous to use those Hub Adapters or no problems? I heard it can cause vibrations?

Rep points for your help mate. :tiphat:
Any pics you have would really help me decide too!! :ugh2:

gromano 08-26-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 696286)
for the price why dont you get something else?

hahaha i dunno, these are genuine porsche rims. I have a set of my stock 18"s for sale... could flog them off for a grand and for an extra grand end up with these sexy rims with better traction on the back!
How wide are your venaci's?

Jamaica 08-26-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gromano (Post 696456)
hahaha i dunno, these are genuine porsche rims. I have a set of my stock 18"s for sale... could flog them off for a grand and for an extra grand end up with these sexy rims with better traction on the back!
How wide are your venaci's?

the venaci's are 20x11 in the rear. I went with a -5 offset. It would make your car look sick.

G Fo12ce 08-27-2010 12:10 AM

If your buddy is too rich to be bothered with selling the wheels maybe buy them and sell them for a profit on a forum or your equivelant of our "Cragslist". Then put the money toward another wheel with proper offsets. More hassle for you though.

03Z33 08-27-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gromano (Post 696449)
Thanks heaps for the help mate!!
Do you have any pictures of the porsche rims on your Z? Which ones have you got?

So their will definitely be no rubbing on any suspension components with the wider rims on the back as long as you got those spacers right? The brakes were the other things I was worried about... will it clear sport brakes?

Is it dangerous to use those Hub Adapters or no problems? I heard it can cause vibrations?

Rep points for your help mate. :tiphat:
Any pics you have would really help me decide too!! :ugh2:

Shouldn't have any rubbing based on the sizes, it's actually really close to standard recommended fit for Z34.
Plenty of brake clearance since Porsche runs huge brakes and you'll be pushing the wheel out 25 mm further.
No problems running the adapters, people do it all the time. It's no different than any of the many people on this forum running bolt on spacers. The adapter is hub centric on both the Nissan side and the Porsche side. It'll include all the hardware, 12x1.25 open end lug nuts to secure the adapter to your car and 14x1.5 ball seat steel open end lug nuts to secure the Porsche wheel onto the adapter which is already hub centric 71.6 for Porsche.

You can buy some nicer black aluminum factory Porsche lug nuts (closed or open end) from a 993 or older Porsche if you prefer. I run the BBS Porsche lug nuts which are open end black aluminum.

No pics of my car until mid-September since it's off the road temporarily. I alternate between a few sets of wheels regularly but my most common setups are:

BBS CH-R Porsche (street/daily setup)
19x11.0 et31 & 245/40/19 Hankook V12 front
19x12.0 et20 & 275/35/19 Hankook V12 rear

Volk TE37 Porsche (track/drift setup)
19x9.5 et14 & 245/40/19 Advan Sport front
19x11.0 et19 & 275/35/19 Hankook V12 rear

Volk TE37 Porsche (track/grip setup)
19x11.0 et19 & 295/30/19 Toyo 888 all around

Volk TE37 Porsche (autocross setup)
19x11.0 et19 & 305/30/19 Hankook RS-3 all around

Also have my eye on a set of Techart Formula wheels... think they'd look pretty good once I get a bbk.

Red__Zed 08-27-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gromano (Post 696456)
hahaha i dunno, these are genuine porsche rims. I have a set of my stock 18"s for sale... could flog them off for a grand and for an extra grand end up with these sexy rims with better traction on the back!
How wide are your venaci's?

Wait...you're paying 2k for these?

kenchan 08-27-2010 10:29 AM

get some Kics that changes the PCD (say from 5x114.3 to 5x120, etc). at that offset you have plent of spacer width you can work with.

OMGWTFBBQ 08-27-2010 11:22 AM

Whats the point of getting wheels that weren't even supposed to be on this car? You'd have to get an adapter to change the bolt pattern. Then you'd have to space it out to change that ridiculous offset. Are you going to run without center caps? Because Porsche center caps on a Nissan = :ugh2:

By the time you get it to all work out, you might as well have gotten a set of wheels that actually work on the Z.

wishihadnav 08-27-2010 11:24 AM

i say dont do it.

Eric 08-27-2010 12:12 PM

Here's a quick chop with the 997 turbo rims. I don't know, I kind of like the look.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20...Z/Blue370Z.jpg

mjch3n 08-27-2010 12:32 PM

the 997 turbo wheels look excellent in the pshop above!

Jamaica 08-27-2010 12:48 PM

ya the photoshop doesnt look that bad at all.

Nitex 08-27-2010 02:02 PM

agreed, looks great! :tup:

I would like to see some pics of the poster with all the different setups as well! whats with not taking pics, cause its off road you say?

TonyBPD 08-27-2010 02:27 PM

I used to rock Porsche wheels on a couple VW's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/P1010061.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/fbdb1e8b.jpg

kenchan 08-27-2010 03:38 PM

yah, i think the porsche wheels look good on the z.

as for the center caps, just sand them down into a nice flat polish look and a quick shot of clearcoat will do.

Ryan@IP 08-27-2010 03:46 PM

They remind me a lot of the new Volk Triniti-V wheels, which actually have 370Z-specific offsets:

http://www.rays-msc.com/wheels/img/t...-souchaku3.jpg

http://www.rays-msc.com/wheels/img/98-2-190315.jpg

Nitex 08-27-2010 03:49 PM

^^^ Love the wheels, is that the wide body kit?

Zeester 08-28-2010 05:11 AM

Whats the name of that kit on the orange 370 ? I really like the sides and the rear hatch design !

03Z33 08-28-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeester (Post 698092)
Whats the name of that kit on the orange 370 ? I really like the sides and the rear hatch design !

Tamon Design

370ZTUNE.com

Mike 08-28-2010 08:56 AM

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I had 911 replica wheels on my 91 back in the day.

fullmonty 08-28-2010 11:01 AM

I do like the wheels on the Z though.

gromano 08-29-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 696953)
Here's a quick chop with the 997 turbo rims. I don't know, I kind of like the look.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20...Z/Blue370Z.jpg

Heck yes! That looks sexual!!

I have a contact who said he could custom make the adapters/specs to make the wheels fit snug on my Z so just need to work out exact mm spacers needed for the offsets! Any help?
How wide could I go without rubbing?

I will probs paint over the centrecaps.
FYI These porsche rims are $2000 AUD... so about $1650 US?
Im guessing thats ALOT cheaper than the Rays Trinity ones in the picture hey when you factor in shipping etc hahah I am in Australia, and its hard to come by good rims down here! All I can find are cheap asian-made replicas that weigh a heap and buckle easily or really old ugly looking Rays spec. So these porsche rims stood out alot. I saw them on a 911 Carrera recently and liked how wide they were and it got me thinking...

Thanks heaps for the photoshop. :bowrofl: Gave u rep points. Really like the look of it now.
Would probably do blue calipers though... not sure heheh

03Z33 08-29-2010 09:03 AM

$1600 US is still too much for factory wheels. You can pick them up for $800 US all day here in Cali and I doubt shipping would add up to that much more.

How wide depends on your tires sizes, ride height and the look you're going for. I wouldn't bother getting custom spacers made since the H&R's are readily available but if you insisted, maybe go with 35mm spacers all around to give it a bit more aggressive look. Or if they didn't have to match, do a pair of 35mm and another in 40mm, that way you can try them front/rear and see what you're preferred look is.

19x8.5 et 21 (w/35mm spacer)
19x8.5 et 16 (w/40mm spacer)

19x11 et 16 (w/35mm spacer)
19x11 et 11 (w/40mm spacer)

gromano 10-14-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33 (Post 699123)
$1600 US is still too much for factory wheels. You can pick them up for $800 US all day here in Cali and I doubt shipping would add up to that much more.

How wide depends on your tires sizes, ride height and the look you're going for. I wouldn't bother getting custom spacers made since the H&R's are readily available but if you insisted, maybe go with 35mm spacers all around to give it a bit more aggressive look. Or if they didn't have to match, do a pair of 35mm and another in 40mm, that way you can try them front/rear and see what you're preferred look is.

19x8.5 et 21 (w/35mm spacer)
19x8.5 et 16 (w/40mm spacer)

19x11 et 16 (w/35mm spacer)
19x11 et 11 (w/40mm spacer)

I just spoke to Porsche dealership in Brisbane who told me to buy brand new the Rims would be $3,800 AUD EACH!!! hahahah so pleeeeez tell me where I could find these for $800!!!

Also O3Z33, could you help me out with your awesome offset/spacer knowledge...
I have my stock set of base 18" rims for sale and a guy with a 2006 Audi A4 wants to buy them... I know the stud patterns are different but would the offsets work? Rep points for u for being awsum at this stuff hahah

Jamaica 10-15-2010 12:04 AM

bro buy some different rims

Waiz 10-15-2010 01:32 AM

So much trouble for wheels, 35-40mm spacer is retarded.

03Z33 10-17-2010 08:57 PM

The Audi won't work unless he's looking for major poke/stretch in the rear.
Front 18x8.0 et 43 is good for the Audi, will need new shorter tires to look right, also hubrings from 66.1 to 57.1 and some wobble bolts to fit 5x114.3 onto 5x112.

EuroG37 10-18-2010 04:25 PM

you dont need spacers u need adaptars. i ran 20mm adaptors on my VW when i was running porsche wheels and i had no problems what so ever and the look hot and different. i say go for it, call up H&R they should run about $500 for both. I had a jetta vr6 with a stage 2 turbo kit and i would spin tires all the way to 4th gear and never exp any vibrations or broken anything

marksport 12-18-2010 10:52 PM

Hey guys, new to the forum here. Got an 02 Q45 and have a set of 996 Turbo wheels from my last project. Was kinda looking for some adapters to mount these up depending on the costs. If you are in the US, stock Porsche wheels are cheap and easy to get. As the OP stated, good wheels in Australia is neither cheap nor easy to find. And I came across this a while ago.

"The current 2008 Nissan 350Z starts from $63,990 (interestingly the same car starts from only USD $29,205 in the U.S.,). The 2008 Porsche Cayman starts at $121,600 (USD $50,350 in the U.S.,) while the Audi TT starts from $68,900 (USD $35,200 in the U.S.,)"

gromano 12-19-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by marksport (Post 856963)
Hey guys, new to the forum here. Got an 02 Q45 and have a set of 996 Turbo wheels from my last project. Was kinda looking for some adapters to mount these up depending on the costs. If you are in the US, stock Porsche wheels are cheap and easy to get. As the OP stated, good wheels in Australia is neither cheap nor easy to find. And I came across this a while ago.

"The current 2008 Nissan 350Z starts from $63,990 (interestingly the same car starts from only USD $29,205 in the U.S.,). The 2008 Porsche Cayman starts at $121,600 (USD $50,350 in the U.S.,) while the Audi TT starts from $68,900 (USD $35,200 in the U.S.,)"

exactly!! now u know what us poor australian folk have to put up with. luxury car prices are ridiculously inflated!!!
let me know how the adapters go. their is info and a link above i believe somewhere to the H&R adapters page. they have direct set used for nissan-> porsche conversion.
Let me know how they go coz im still tossing up over these porsche rims in Australia!! hahah

WheelTrends 12-22-2010 12:37 PM

Pass on them. Seriously.... Buy wheels that are for your car, no second hand you always regret it later.

Zerafian 12-22-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 766496)
So much trouble for wheels, 35-40mm spacer is retarded.

This^^

Buy those new volk trinitis or whatever they are on page 2.


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