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AK370Z 08-06-2010 02:51 PM

How can you protect your rims (OEM and aftermarket) from thieves?
 
Well, it seems like every two to three weeks, we are seeing "my rims got stolen" threads popping up (jeffblue , G35guy84, YZhang12). These scumbags thieves DO NOT care how they leave your car after they take the wheels. That's my biggest fear! If I were to come outside and I see my car on brick like this,

http://www.the370z.com/members/jeffb...n-wheels-1.jpg
Pic courtesy Jeffblue

http://www.the370z.com/members/g35gu...9-img-2147.jpg
Pic courtesy of G35guy84

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s..._com/KHoUr.jpg
Pic courtesy of yzhang12

I'll probably have a mini heart attack! I personally don't gave a F if these thieves steal my rims (heck, if you ask me nicely I'll probably give them to you) but leaving my car on bricks, that's unacceptable. :mad:

So, I have been trying to look into a solution for this. Don't get me wrong, I live in a pretty good neighborhood. I sometimes don't even lock my car. However, if I were to drive to North Jersey or NewYork, I can't say the same about those neighborhood. :ugh2:

So, after few minutes of search, I found these VOLK RACING Formula Lug Nuts which are reasonably priced and has rounded outside surface which means thieves can't take them off with a regular wrench. Take a look

RAYS ENGINEERING VOLK RACING Formula Lug Nuts

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VOLK RACING Formula Lug Nuts

VOLK RACING is the premier name brand when it comes to high-end forged wheels, designed and manufactured in Japan by RAYS ENGINEERING.

RAYS ENGINEERING is a highly revered manufacturer sought out by Performance and Racing firms like TRD (Toyota Racing Development), Mazda Speed, Nismo and Mugen. Their products are not only intended for street, but made for the tough and grueling conditions of the motorsports championship races, such as the Japan and British Grand Touring Car Championship, Formula 3000, and Formula 1 Circuits.

VOLK RACING Formula Lug Nut kit features:

* AN INCREDIBLY SLEEK AND EXOTIC DESIGN MADE OF CHROME MANADIUM THAT MAKES A POWERFUL STATEMENT
* THE MULTI-PIECE STRUCTURE ENSURES AGAINST STUD AND WHEEL SEIZURES AT EXTREME TEMPERATURES
* AN INTERNAL DRIVE STYLE LUG NUT WITH A REMOVABLE ANODIZED ALUMINUM CAP FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY AND PROTECTION AGAINST DEBRIS AND WEATHER CONDITIONS
* KIT INCLUDES: 20 CONCEALED HEPTAGON LOCK NUTS, 1 INTERNAL DRIVE LUG NUT KEY, 1 INTERNAL DRIVE ALLEN HEX KEY
* 1 URGE TO KICK *** AND TAKE NAMES
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Here's how they look on the car:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...heelsJohn3.jpg
Pic courtesy of GAMEDOG (myg37)

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...4162009035.jpg
mounted on g37

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...4162009034.jpg

So, what you guys think? Do you have any other ideas? We have quite a few VOLKS Autorized dealers on our forum (as sponsors) and I'm sure they can come up with a good price on these sets. Biggest question is if these will fit properly with Sports package Rays? Lets discuss .....

wishihadnav 08-06-2010 03:05 PM

one of my favorite lugs!!..problem is that they wont fit the sport package rays or the nismo rims..we have that stupid flat washer design..

jpmotor 08-06-2010 03:13 PM

Honestly, I think Garage is the best, next would be tilt sensor

Jeffblue 08-06-2010 03:55 PM

hey AK, thanks for making one dedicated thread for this.

These volk nuts won't fit our sport package wheels or nismo wheels. However as far as aftermarket is concerned, they seem pretty good.

I think the general consensus is the typical mcguard type of wheel lock with the pattern in the top really doesn't do anything. With that in mind, i have found some other designs that seem to work better

1. Black top wheel locks - QMR Motorsports
http://www.concept1.ca/images/BT%20lock%20wkeys.jpg
These are actually caps that go over a lug nut. The lug nut must be 17mm or 19mm hex, (we usually have 21mm on our cars). Nismo makes a lug nut that these should fit over. its model number is 40222-RN700, it can be found here https://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=5360

The locks themselves are 28mm in diameter, so depending on your wheel, they could fit. Essentially, the wider portion of hte hole where the lug nut goes needs to be a bit bigger than 28mm in diameter for these to fit. The idea behind these is, they fit snugly in the hole, and there is no room to get around it with a bolt remover. That, and the outside portion spins freely.

2. Dency 2000 Wheel lock - KYO-EI - Dency 2000 Lock Nuts - Nengun Performance

These feature a magnetic cap that spins freely and supposedly can only be removed with the specific magnet they come with. These also seem to fill up most of the lug hole, making it difficult to get a bolt remover around them to get them off.

I can't embed this link from the video because its supposedly disabled by the user, but here is a link to it.

YouTube - ‪Kyo Ei Dency 2000 Wheel Locks‬‎

Chris_1 08-06-2010 04:11 PM

I can always trust in Ak, to come up with the perfect thread.

AK370Z 08-07-2010 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 662442)
one of my favorite lugs!!..problem is that they wont fit the sport package rays or the nismo rims..we have that stupid flat washer design..

You're correct. I was curious about the washer design and looks like it won't fit :(.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 662562)
hey AK, thanks for making one dedicated thread for this.

2. Dency 2000 Wheel lock - KYO-EI - Dency 2000 Lock Nuts - Nengun Performance

These feature a magnetic cap that spins freely and supposedly can only be removed with the specific magnet they come with. These also seem to fill up most of the lug hole, making it difficult to get a bolt remover around them to get them off.

I can't embed this link from the video because its supposedly disabled by the user, but here is a link to it.

YouTube - ‪Kyo Ei Dency 2000 Wheel Locks‬‎

I saw it on RHDJapan too. Are you getting this? Does this just go over the bolt or it's a lug by itself? because if it's a lug, it needs to washer design.

Kyo-Ei Dency 2000 Lock Nut Silver'
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalo...mal/Image1.jpg

http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalo...mal/Image9.jpg

http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalo...mal/Image3.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com (Post 662576)
I can always trust in Ak, to come up with the perfect thread.

Thanks. I am just looking out for another member. I can ONLY imagine how hard it is to see your car on bricks. I'll probably have an emotional breakdown. :(

Looking for more ideas....

OMGWTFBBQ 08-07-2010 03:27 AM

Slam your car so low that they can't fit a jack underneath there.

I think something like what Jeffblue posted will be the best solution, but as I always say, if someone wants something of yours that badly, they'll most likely find a way to get it.

I seriously hate thieves. It's just sad that we live in a world where we can't enjoy the things we work our butts off to get.

Jeffblue 08-07-2010 09:55 AM

AK, neither. of the locks i posted wont work with our OEM rays wheels, but i am selling mine so i am just looking for aftermarket solutions. I tried my hardest to find a solution for the OEM wheels, but there realy isn't anything that will because of the washer design, its not very popular.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 663386)
Slam your car so low that they can't fit a jack underneath there.

I think something like what Jeffblue posted will be the best solution, but as I always say, if someone wants something of yours that badly, they'll most likely find a way to get it.

I seriously hate thieves. It's just sad that we live in a world where we can't enjoy the things we work our butts off to get.

I can't find the video now, but apparently a couple of 'pikey's flipped some car, and then took a sawzall and cut off the suspension and took the wheels like that. And they filmed themselves doing it.

tjlazer 08-07-2010 10:12 AM

I have a dream, a dream where I come outside in the middle of the night and catch a thief red handed trying to steal my $h!t. Then I fire a couple rounds in the air and watch him squirm. ;)

cjof2003 08-07-2010 12:55 PM

The rounded outside surface is not an issue. I had wheel locks on my RSX that had the rounded outside surface. I'll just say that when I lost my key, I was able to get them off quickly and very, very easily.

These will slow down some of the thieves however, and I still think it's a good idea to use them. You should also invest in an aftermarket alarm with tilt sensor however.

Z1804 09-14-2010 02:27 AM

Are these lugs worth the money or should I just install a digital tilt sensor on my car? I was going to go with some Spline or Muteki lugs on my Work T1S.

RAYS ENGINEERING VOLK RACING Formula Lug Nuts


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mattjk 09-14-2010 02:47 AM

I don't see how those volk lugs could deter theives if they have the volk tools.

I like the gorilla guard locks with the spinning collar.

OMGWTFBBQ 09-14-2010 03:13 AM

To be honest, locking lug nuts are only going to slow down a thief who knows what they're doing. If they want it that badly, they'll find a way to get it.

Z1804 09-14-2010 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjk (Post 720091)
I don't see how those volk lugs could deter theives if they have the volk tooks.

I like the gorilla guard locks with the spinning collar.

What do the gorilla guard locks look like? I google it but didn't come up with much.

mattjk 09-14-2010 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z1804 (Post 720098)
What do the gorilla guard locks look like? I google it but didn't come up with much.

Gorilla Automotive Products - Lug Nuts, Wheel Locks, Auto Security, Wheel Accessories

Z1804 09-14-2010 06:29 AM

Thanks buddy!

ClemsonWill 09-14-2010 07:47 AM

Formula lug nuts - After taking out the cap with a hex wrench, is the inside just another hex or cut like a key? If it's just another hex then it's not stopping anyone. Either way I really like the design. I just wish they came in something other than a chrome body. Maybe a black lug nut body in the future?

doubleG370Z 09-14-2010 01:56 PM

will these formula one lug nuts fit the oem 18"?

SoCal 370Z 09-14-2010 02:22 PM

AK,

Simply take your wheels off at night and roll them into your house; leave your Z on blocks so any would be thieves will be thwarted.

kenchan 09-14-2010 03:08 PM

lol...would be thieves scratching their headz around AK's car... :D

dAvenue 09-22-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 663503)
I have a dream, a dream where I come outside in the middle of the night and catch a thief red handed trying to steal my $h!t. Then I fire a couple rounds in the air and watch him squirm. ;)

In the air? Eff that...I would put the .40 cal straight through his thieving little brain. We have a right to protect our property in Texas, even with lethal force. :tiphat:

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 731787)
In the air? Eff that...I would put the .40 cal straight through his thieving little brain. We have a right to protect our property in Texas, even with lethal force. :tiphat:

You can shoot someone in the head at point blank range if they try to steal from you in texas?

dAvenue 09-22-2010 11:49 AM

Absolutely.

Azroadster 09-22-2010 12:00 PM

God Bless Texas!

AZ

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 12:01 PM

thats pretty crazy. i guess it results in less stealing and more people getting shot.

dAvenue 09-22-2010 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azroadster (Post 731818)
God Bless Texas!

AZ

And Arizona! We've got your back. :tup:

ClemsonWill 09-22-2010 12:20 PM

I'm moving to Texas!

AK370Z 09-22-2010 12:36 PM

I have closed numerous thread due to "I can shoot him in the head or stab him in the chest" posts etc. Please keep the thread on topic. I'll delete those posts from my thread. We are looking for "possible" solutions, not shooting someone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 720882)
AK,
Simply take your wheels off at night and roll them into your house; leave your Z on blocks so any would be thieves will be thwarted.

:bowrofl:

shabarivas 09-22-2010 12:43 PM

I park in a garage - but when I dont I make sure I am soooo close to the edge of a curb that no one would be able to raise one side of the car... Also helps if you turn your wheel ALLL the way inside :p

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 12:46 PM

As of now, it seems like there is NO lock on the market that will help protect our OEM wheels any better than the nissan(mcgard) locks. the only option are for aftermarket wheels. If you have aftermarket wheels with a conical seat, and the lug holes a certain depth/width, black tops wheel locks AKA Eurolocks will work in combination with the nismo lug nuts with a 17mm hex head . Other alternatives are the KYO Dency 2000 Magnetic wheel locks.

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 12:52 PM

basically the only secure lock is one that leaves almost no room between the wall of the lug nut bore and the side of the locking lug or spins freely. Any room beyond 1-2mm and it doesn't matter whether it uses a 7 sided key, a laser carved random shape, or a fingerprint; it can be removed with a bolt remover.

Jeffblue 09-26-2010 06:04 PM

6 Attachment(s)
here is my solution: This will only work on aftermarket wheels that require conical lug nuts. More specifically, your wheels must be the kind with relatively deep holes for the lug nuts and they have to be 29mm in diameter. You need 4 nismo lug nuts https://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=5360
and a set of black top wheel lucks QMR Motorsports

The nismo lug nuts give the 17mm hex head that the black tops require to fit over. The black tops fill up the entire lug nut mounting hole and therefore make it so someone can't just use a bolt remover to rip off your wheel lock.

Here are some pics.


If you guys need more details measurements of anything let me know.

CrownR426 08-06-2011 10:47 PM

This thread did not help me at all...
Has anyone found some good wheel locks for the sports package rims?

cossie1600 08-06-2011 11:11 PM

$100 deductible on comprehensive

Red__Zed 08-06-2011 11:17 PM

holy necro

Jolubzo 07-26-2012 08:44 AM

still no solutions ?

kenchan 07-26-2012 09:08 AM

if you need to park outdoors, i suggest you get an aftermarket alarm with tilt sensor.

also if you're parking on your driveway (as in you own or your parents own the house), get a network camera with nightvision and activate motion detection between the hours you feel worried.

the best way, ofcourse, is to have your own garage and lock the garage.

KaienZ34 07-26-2012 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1838936)
if you need to park outdoors, i suggest you get an aftermarket alarm with tilt sensor.

also if you're parking on your driveway (as in you own or your parents own the house), get a network camera with nightvision and activate motion detection between the hours you feel worried.

the best way, ofcourse, is to have your own garage and lock the garage.


With a BIG ass dog in there with the car.

370ZQ 04-08-2013 04:08 PM

Have anyone installed the tilt motion sensor? I want to know if it easy to set up

chops 04-08-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370ZQ (Post 2256697)
Have anyone installed the tilt motion sensor? I want to know if it easy to set up

its very easy. you wire it to the door/hatch switch and a constant 12v. simple google search will help you


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