Nissan 370Z Forum  

Offset

So I was doing some research on wheel offset and it was getting frustrating... So what is a wheel offset? The literal definitions were bit confusing. I am getting confused

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Wheels & Tires


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-31-2010, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
JayYoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: san diego
Posts: 452
Drives: 2010 370z
Rep Power: 15
JayYoon is on a distinguished road
Default Offset

So I was doing some research on wheel offset and it was getting frustrating... So what is a wheel offset? The literal definitions were bit confusing. I am getting confused whether the offset has to do with wheels going up or down or outward or inward. Does the offset tell the distance between how far the rim goes up or down or inward or outward?

btw staggered wheels mean different width between the front and rear? right?!
JayYoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 06:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Statewide
Posts: 838
Drives: Nissan 370Z Roadster
Rep Power: 16
Chris_1 has a spectacular aura aboutChris_1 has a spectacular aura aboutChris_1 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Wheel offset has to do with the design of the wheel, the size of the wheel and a couple of other things. In general most are running around a +30 to +22 in the front and +20 to +10 for the rear on these cars, depending on sizing and what the customer wants to run, aggressive or more subtle.
Chris_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 08:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
SE
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,236
Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F
Rep Power: 23
SE is a glorious beacon of lightSE is a glorious beacon of lightSE is a glorious beacon of lightSE is a glorious beacon of lightSE is a glorious beacon of lightSE is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Hi Jay,

Offset is how much the wheel comes in or out. This number is independent of the wheel width.

A wheel with a higher offset will sink into the wheel wells more (towards the car). A wheel with a lower offset will be pushed outwards.

If you're having trouble understanding this concept, imagine that the face of the wheel and the barrel (where the tire sits) are not connected. If you push the barrel outwards, this demonstrates a lower offset. Push it inwards, that's positive offset.

To the extremes, offsets can have a strong impact on whether or not they will fit- too high of an offset and the wheels will not clear your suspension or begin hitting your inner fender well. Too low of an offset and the wheels will start to stick out past the fender. Wheel fitment is all about finding that balance between what looks good and fits well.

Staggered wheels mean that the front and rear wheels are of different sizes. Most of the time, this term is applied only to width but in some rare instances it can also apply to diameter as well. For RWD cars, a staggered setup is slightly wider in the rear versus the front.

PM me if you have any additional questions. I can help you find what you need.
SE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 06:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
bullitt5897's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North GA
Posts: 6,831
Drives: Twin Turbo Z34
Rep Power: 3682
bullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Like the two vendors said you are right in your thoughts about staggered wheels. Now the offsets concept can be very simple and easy to get a basic understanding for. However, picking the perfect offset can be a difficult task as you have to take into account your brake size, your tire size and the application of use. For example I have one of the most aggressive wheels on the boards with the following specs:

20x10 +15
20x12 +0

Now the +15 & +0 is the mm distance the back of the wheel face is from the center line of the wheel. Check out the offset discussion sticky for more explanations
__________________
Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z *SOLD*, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054
bullitt5897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 10:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
W.O.W. 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,757
Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z
Rep Power: 19
W.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullitt5897 View Post
Like the two vendors said you are right in your thoughts about staggered wheels. Now the offsets concept can be very simple and easy to get a basic understanding for. However, picking the perfect offset can be a difficult task as you have to take into account your brake size, your tire size and the application of use. For example I have one of the most aggressive wheels on the boards with the following specs:

20x10 +15
20x12 +0

Now the +15 & +0 is the mm distance the back of the wheel face is from the center line of the wheel. Check out the offset discussion sticky for more explanations
Who is the most aggressive? Second most aggressive? Your posts make me smile.
W.O.W. 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 10:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Liquid_G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs
Posts: 1,439
Drives: 09 370z Supercharged
Rep Power: 44
Liquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^^ um ya the guy on here with membername "offset Z" i think has by far the most aggressive wheel setup.
__________________
Liquid_G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 10:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
W.O.W. 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,757
Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z
Rep Power: 19
W.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant future
Default

Thats already known its a given. I just had no idea there was a running list for this type of stat . All these claims are getting old. Many feel the same way just do not come out and say it.

This site seems to be one big competition. "First this", "most that". It's borderline pathetic. That's why all I can do is smile.

<----- Most smiles a day on this forum. Rolls eyes...

Last edited by W.O.W. 370Z; 08-02-2010 at 10:41 AM.
W.O.W. 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 11:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Liquid_G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs
Posts: 1,439
Drives: 09 370z Supercharged
Rep Power: 44
Liquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond reputeLiquid_G has a reputation beyond repute
Default

No I was the first to roll eyes.... lol I know what you mean..
__________________
Liquid_G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 11:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
W.O.W. 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,757
Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z
Rep Power: 19
W.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquid_G View Post
No I was the first to roll eyes.... lol I know what you mean..
No,no,no,no I beat you to it.
W.O.W. 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 11:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
OMGWTFBBQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: the OC
Posts: 1,886
Drives: 08 SGM IS350
Rep Power: 4549
OMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond reputeOMGWTFBBQ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to OMGWTFBBQ
Default



Distance from centerline (red) to offset (blue) = offset. Or it's the distance between the two blue arrows. If the blue line is to the right, it's positive offset. If the blue line is to the left, it's negative offset. Hope that helped!
OMGWTFBBQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 11:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
bullitt5897's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North GA
Posts: 6,831
Drives: Twin Turbo Z34
Rep Power: 3682
bullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z View Post
Thats already known its a given. I just had no idea there was a running list for this type of stat . All these claims are getting old. Many feel the same way just do not come out and say it.

This site seems to be one big competition. "First this", "most that". It's borderline pathetic. That's why all I can do is smile.

<----- Most smiles a day on this forum. Rolls eyes...
Lol W.O.W. You crack me up man! I know I'm not the most aggressive. Hence why I said "one of the most". Also the response isn't geared toward you a fellow member who understands the offset game probably better than I do... How does the OP know he is getting the right info from the right people he is new here and doesn't know who has what and who has done what... So sometimes we have to fill them in. So chill out and help new people rather than criticize those who do. I get 3-4 PM's a week or more asking will this fit or what size spacers should I run and etc... My participation here is to help new members not say I am a wheels guru cause I'm not and there is a lot I must learn too... feel free to step up and answer the newbie questions everynow and then
__________________
Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z *SOLD*, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054
bullitt5897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 12:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
W.O.W. 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,757
Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z
Rep Power: 19
W.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullitt5897 View Post
Lol W.O.W. You crack me up man! I know I'm not the most aggressive. Hence why I said "one of the most". Also the response isn't geared toward you a fellow member who understands the offset game probably better than I do... How does the OP know he is getting the right info from the right people he is new here and doesn't know who has what and who has done what... So sometimes we have to fill them in. So chill out and help new people rather than criticize those who do. I get 3-4 PM's a week or more asking will this fit or what size spacers should I run and etc... My participation here is to help new members not say I am a wheels guru cause I'm not and there is a lot I must learn too... feel free to step up and answer the newbie questions everynow and then
It is the manner in which the delivery of information relayed that is my contention.


I help out many members, I have been since 2003. I knew my 350z inside out and I am on my way with my 370z. However, I do it in the most humble way. I am just seeing a new wave of narcissistic posts and threads proclaiming their superiority in everything they do from some members. Its immature and counter productive.

Just an observation, but since this is the internet, it doesn't really matter anyways.
W.O.W. 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 12:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
bullitt5897's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North GA
Posts: 6,831
Drives: Twin Turbo Z34
Rep Power: 3682
bullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond reputebullitt5897 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Don't take posts here like those on my 350z the crowd here is much different. Honestly, I hope people learn from my successes and failures here on the boards. With new members I set a tone of I know what I am talking about and not out of my a$$. If you take that as arrogance re think my posts. Of the many members that know me personally off of the boards they know I am an extremely humble person. I also structure my posts so that others know who to come to if they have questions cause I can either have the answer or point them to the member who does. I'm a doer and not a keyboard jockey so I don't read too much into peoples posts. I take everything at face value.
__________________
Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z *SOLD*, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054
bullitt5897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 12:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 36
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 37
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I really think bullit said he was one of the most aggressive setups just as an example of 'hey this is nearing the limits of how far you can go.' its a measurement for god's sake, i really don't think he was trying to brag about it.

Bullit, this is the second time i've seen people call you out on this nitpicky business. The other one was in your build thread when i asked whether you were the only one who had done forged internals for your twin turbo build.

Honestly, tearing apart what people say just so you can criticize them is really not necessary.
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 12:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
W.O.W. 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,757
Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z
Rep Power: 19
W.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant futureW.O.W. 370Z has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffblue View Post
I really think bullit said he was one of the most aggressive setups just as an example of 'hey this is nearing the limits of how far you can go.' its a measurement for god's sake, i really don't think he was trying to brag about it.

Bullit, this is the second time i've seen people call you out on this nitpicky business. The other one was in your build thread when i asked whether you were the only one who had done forged internals for your twin turbo build.

Honestly, tearing apart what people say just so you can criticize them is really not necessary.
Again, it is not what is said, it is the delivery. Nonetheless, claims are made all the time and that brings attention to yourself. Claims spark interest and curiosity. The bigger the claim made, the bigger interest and curiosity will follow from others. It's a pretty simple cycle. Bold claims will attract scrutiny and fact checks. Its an everyday thing not limited to web forums.

If one takes corrections to certain claims as criticism, then forums are not for you. This is an open forum, open for discussion and disagreement, last time I checked.
W.O.W. 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SSR Type F - Offset help! Ellz Wheels & Tires 12 07-15-2010 11:34 AM
offset help needed docaam Wheels & Tires 12 06-04-2010 11:53 AM
Aggresive offset Nelpz Wheels & Tires 14 06-03-2010 05:58 PM
is the offset on these right? Anthny2040 Wheels & Tires 1 04-23-2010 11:16 AM
What offset do I need? Z33knight Wheels & Tires 2 04-18-2010 09:10 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2