Anyone running a non-staggered setup?

Red__Zed · 07-29-2010, 12:50 PM

Anyone know how a non-staggered set up like this would work?

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I would love to be running 285's all around, although I might stagger tire size I guess... I'm just curious how the car feels with a non-staggered setup, and how well 10's would fit up front.

OMGWTFBBQ · 07-29-2010, 01:47 PM

Ask Mike. He's running a square setup. So is Robispec/Bluemeanie if I'm not mistaken. I have a set of 18x10 +15 all around Advan RGii's I might slap on when I'm bored.

SE · 07-29-2010, 01:58 PM

Most full time track vehicles will run a "squared" setup. Typically the car is easier to control and dial in.

Red__Zed · 07-29-2010, 07:32 PM

Any ideas whether those guys would fit OK on a 370 in those sizes and offsets?

Mike · 07-30-2010, 07:44 AM

I run 285/30-18s all around on the track. it reduces understeer. They are an inch shorter than stock, but no problems with them.

Red__Zed · 07-30-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I run 285/30-18s all around on the track. it reduces understeer. They are an inch shorter than stock, but no problems with them.

What rims are you running and with what offsets?

Mike · 07-31-2010, 10:57 AM

4 rear 350Z track rays, widened one inch by weldcraft wheels. they were 8.5 +33 but are now 9.5 +46. The fronts fit perfect, the rears fit without spacers and don't have any interference, but are tucked in, so I run either a 15 or 25 mm spacer on the rears, whichever I happen to be using for my street tires. Right now, its the 15mm spacer

Red__Zed · 08-02-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

4 rear 350Z track rays, widened one inch by weldcraft wheels. they were 8.5 +33 but are now 9.5 +46. The fronts fit perfect, the rears fit without spacers and don't have any interference, but are tucked in, so I run either a 15 or 25 mm spacer on the rears, whichever I happen to be using for my street tires. Right now, its the 15mm spacer

Do you have any experience running 10's up front?

The setup I want to run is Enkei RPF1 19x10+22 all the way around-- I was going to stagger tire size, with 285's out back and 275's up front.

OMGWTFBBQ · 08-02-2010, 02:02 PM

Google "robispec 370z" and click on the first article that shows up.

Quoted from the third page: "Fat 285/35-18 NT05’s are used on all 4 corners on Enkei NT03+M 18x10.5 wheels. Longer studs with 25mm rear spacers arte used. This allows a 30mm offset on all 4 wheels, easing rotation of the tires for even wear. "

I guess you could try shoving 285's all around, but might be a problem since it's slightly more aggressive than the Robispec setup.

cossie1600 · 08-02-2010, 02:47 PM

did anyone race on such aggressive setup on stock suspension? i am scared to run my 35mm wheel as i am scared it will hit the fender. i am consider selling them for a 45mm front and 25mm rear setup instead, but that defeats the purpose of a square setup partially since i wont be able to rotate them

Mike · 08-02-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

did anyone race on such aggressive setup on stock suspension? i am scared to run my 35mm wheel as i am scared it will hit the fender. i am consider selling them for a 45mm front and 25mm rear setup instead, but that defeats the purpose of a square setup partially since i wont be able to rotate them

just get the 4 the same size and use a 20mm type 2 spacer.

Dan, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a quality spacer. Porsche even uses them on some of their race cars.

cossie1600 · 08-02-2010, 11:48 PM

I guess that would save some money, but I am always afraid of those thing shearing off and sending me flying

Red__Zed · 08-03-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

4 rear 350Z track rays, widened one inch by weldcraft wheels. they were 8.5 +33 but are now 9.5 +46. The fronts fit perfect, the rears fit without spacers and don't have any interference, but are tucked in, so I run either a 15 or 25 mm spacer on the rears, whichever I happen to be using for my street tires. Right now, its the 15mm spacer

You have any pics of the setup with the 15mm spacer? I'm curious how those would look with an effective 30mm offset. I had thought that would be too tucked in for use on a Z.

Mike · 08-03-2010, 12:36 PM

I will on two weeks, when I put them back on

Red__Zed · 08-03-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I will on two weeks, when I put them back on

Cool, thanks for all your help!

07-29-2010, 12:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Anyone running a non-staggered setup? Anyone know how a non-staggered set up like this would work? MY350Z.COM Forums I would love to be running 285's all around, although I might stagger tire size I guess... I'm just curious how the car feels with a non-staggered setup, and how well 10's would fit up front.

07-30-2010, 07:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I run 285/30-18s all around on the track. it reduces understeer. They are an inch shorter than stock, but no problems with them. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

07-31-2010, 10:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	4 rear 350Z track rays, widened one inch by weldcraft wheels. they were 8.5 +33 but are now 9.5 +46. The fronts fit perfect, the rears fit without spacers and don't have any interference, but are tucked in, so I run either a 15 or 25 mm spacer on the rears, whichever I happen to be using for my street tires. Right now, its the 15mm spacer __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

08-03-2010, 12:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I will on two weeks, when I put them back on __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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07-29-2010, 01:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4549	Ask Mike. He's running a square setup. So is Robispec/Bluemeanie if I'm not mistaken. I have a set of 18x10 +15 all around Advan RGii's I might slap on when I'm bored.

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SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Most full time track vehicles will run a "squared" setup. Typically the car is easier to control and dial in.

07-29-2010, 07:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Any ideas whether those guys would fit OK on a 370 in those sizes and offsets?

08-02-2010, 02:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4549	Google "robispec 370z" and click on the first article that shows up. Quoted from the third page: "Fat 285/35-18 NT05’s are used on all 4 corners on Enkei NT03+M 18x10.5 wheels. Longer studs with 25mm rear spacers arte used. This allows a 30mm offset on all 4 wheels, easing rotation of the tires for even wear. " I guess you could try shoving 285's all around, but might be a problem since it's slightly more aggressive than the Robispec setup.

08-02-2010, 02:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	did anyone race on such aggressive setup on stock suspension? i am scared to run my 35mm wheel as i am scared it will hit the fender. i am consider selling them for a 45mm front and 25mm rear setup instead, but that defeats the purpose of a square setup partially since i wont be able to rotate them

08-02-2010, 11:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I guess that would save some money, but I am always afraid of those thing shearing off and sending me flying