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hey guys, so i just picked up my car on monday and i found a guy selling his Volk racing TE37 in Bronze 19 by 9.5 and 19 by 10.5

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Old 07-07-2010, 03:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys,
so i just picked up my car on monday
and i found a guy selling his Volk racing TE37 in Bronze
19 by 9.5 and 19 by 10.5 offset is +22 all around.

a day after i posted on that guys wall, another fourm user sends me a private msg saying that he has a set of gunmetal ones...

which color do u guys prefer??

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Odd question when it really is up to you. Though, the bronze will contrast a lot more, with the dark gray....should be a subtle contrast however.

The gunmetal...depends which ones. Rays has 4 stages of "gunmetal" I think.

If it were me, I would get the bronze. Just because it will contrast more against the darker gray color.

Just take pictures and then "photoshop" if need be.
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i hope you have suspension because there is a good chance your tire will hit the fender on hard bumps. i am running 35mm in front and i am nervous already
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you are running 35mm up front? what the heck does that mean? you mean you are running 35% up front.

Say your tire is 19 275 35 - then you have a 19'' in diameter tire w/ a sidewall that's 35% of 275mm.
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well, i saw a post awhile back saying that 19x9.5 +22 f, 19x10.5 +12 r will fit fine.

so with these rims, im planning to go put spacers in the rear or keep as it is.

no coilovers yet.. but ill probably do it at the end of the year when i can get some cash.

heres the link to that post
Rays TE37s offset Question, +12 or +22 or ??

and what do you mean ur running 35mm in the front?

edit: sorry, not fit fine. IT doesnt say it fits fine, but there is a picture there and it doesnt seem like its sticking out too much

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Odd question when it really is up to you. Though, the bronze will contrast a lot more, with the dark gray....should be a subtle contrast however.

The gunmetal...depends which ones. Rays has 4 stages of "gunmetal" I think.

If it were me, I would get the bronze. Just because it will contrast more against the darker gray color.

Just take pictures and then "photoshop" if need be.
i really want bronze too, but the gunmetal guy is giving me a good price but bad condition.. im probably going to go for bronze since it comes with pretty much new tires. rather spend more for better quailty!
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i really want bronze too, but the gunmetal guy is giving me a good price but bad condition.. im probably going to go for bronze since it comes with pretty much new tires. rather spend more for better quailty!
Honestly...I would take the bronze. Forged rims are hard to repair...or at least thats what I have been told. If you were going to strip it and powdercoat it, then yeah the cheaper ones might work.

What you can do is maybe see if a local car body shop can take a chip sample and replicate the touch up paint for you. Bronze is a hard color to match since its metallic sort of as well.

+22 all around will work. I am using +12 rears and +22 fronts with a +5mm spacer all around. The fronts scrape a little now though...bummers.
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Honestly...I would take the bronze. Forged rims are hard to repair...or at least thats what I have been told. If you were going to strip it and powdercoat it, then yeah the cheaper ones might work.

What you can do is maybe see if a local car body shop can take a chip sample and replicate the touch up paint for you. Bronze is a hard color to match since its metallic sort of as well.

+22 all around will work. I am using +12 rears and +22 fronts with a +5mm spacer all around. The fronts scrape a little now though...bummers.
is the scraping b/c of the 5mm spacers u have on?
and i think ill let the owner do the repair and decide if ill take the rims after he gets it fixed. the bronze rims have curbage on 1 rim.
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is the scraping b/c of the 5mm spacers u have on?
and i think ill let the owner do the repair and decide if ill take the rims after he gets it fixed. the bronze rims have curbage on 1 rim.
Yes I am pretty sure its from the +5mm spacers. The +22 on my Tanabe drop springs were perfectly fine. If you are planning to use coilovers (Hawaii DMV laws are stricter here) then then +22 will tuck in even more due to the natural tendency towards negative camber from the lowering.

The +12 rears are perfectly fine. I have it at +7 with the spacers and 285 tires. Close....but with 275's I could possibly go another +5mm.

Its also about tire choices when you are really going to "push" the aggressiveness of the offsets. Not all sizes are the same in widths and appearances. Some have a more rounded corner and others are more square. Obviously the more square ones will be possibly a little wider such that that extra 2-3mm will possibly cause some rubbing.

This is the same (sort of) as the older G35's and 350Z's with the exception that the front suspension can not handle too much of an aggressive offset versus like before. For the older generations it was the rears that could not go past +22ish without having to roll the fenders while the fronts could go into the +12 range a lot easier. Its rather reversed now with the suspension "geometry" changes.

As for the repairs, I would think that you might get a better deal if you buy them BEFORE he repairs them since it can be used as your leverage as a buyer. Also, you will be able to choose who and where it gets repaired at (assuming the damage is not too bad AND repairable). If he is going to sell them, then he might not really care on the repair quality and might raise the purchase cost to cover the repair and now since it looks "new" he can justify the increase in costs. I don't know...but just my opinion on that.

Maybe I should state that I am using 245/35 19 fronts and 285/35 19 rears on the stock OEM Nismo 370Z tires.

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my 35mm offset wheels (9.5" wide) might rub the fender under hard bumps or turns. it sticks slightly past the front fender
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my 35mm offset wheels (9.5" wide) might rub the fender under hard bumps or turns. it sticks slightly past the front fender
If you didn't install drop springs or coilovers...then I suppose visually it will protrude past the front fenders. Though because of the suspension design...I don't think that you will rub on the fenders at +35mm offsets. The suspension travel is an upward "parabolic" motion (arcs towards the center of the car as it travels upwards) soooo....you shouldn't rub. I could be completely off...but I am pretty sure. If I calculated correctly...a +35 offset could be used on a 10" wide front rim and that would be about the same as +22 9.5" fronts.
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As for the repairs, I would think that you might get a better deal if you buy them BEFORE he repairs them since it can be used as your leverage as a buyer. Also, you will be able to choose who and where it gets repaired at (assuming the damage is not too bad AND repairable). If he is going to sell them, then he might not really care on the repair quality and might raise the purchase cost to cover the repair and now since it looks "new" he can justify the increase in costs. I don't know...but just my opinion on that.

Maybe I should state that I am using 245/35 19 fronts and 285/35 19 rears on the stock OEM Nismo 370Z tires.
the shop he is getting it fixed at is a shop tat everyone on a local fourm uses. I just dont want to risk having a bad fix or a different color rim than the other 3 rims. after he fixes, i can still decide and the rims have curbage, no bend or crack. so i think its okay. im getting a second opinion 2morrow and another local shop.

I have been reading that mass production rims have big hub size, and require rings to make them fit correctly, so i still have to how the rims are without the rings, and see if he has TPMS sensors or i have to buy them myself
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the shop he is getting it fixed at is a shop tat everyone on a local fourm uses. I just dont want to risk having a bad fix or a different color rim than the other 3 rims. after he fixes, i can still decide and the rims have curbage, no bend or crack. so i think its okay. im getting a second opinion 2morrow and another local shop.

I have been reading that mass production rims have big hub size, and require rings to make them fit correctly, so i still have to how the rims are without the rings, and see if he has TPMS sensors or i have to buy them myself
Check one of the vendors here or Z1 performance (Z-1 Performance Automotive Services Inc. - Z1 Performance Hubcentric Ring) I believe. They sell the aluminum hubcentric rings that you will need. The rims will still work...just would be better for vibration issues and for a more even torquing of lug nuts.

The OEM TPMS sensors worked in my TE37's that I bought in 2003. Just transfered them over.
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If you didn't install drop springs or coilovers...then I suppose visually it will protrude past the front fenders. Though because of the suspension design...I don't think that you will rub on the fenders at +35mm offsets. The suspension travel is an upward "parabolic" motion (arcs towards the center of the car as it travels upwards) soooo....you shouldn't rub. I could be completely off...but I am pretty sure. If I calculated correctly...a +35 offset could be used on a 10" wide front rim and that would be about the same as +22 9.5" fronts.
That's what I am hoping for, but you have to remember the car runs very little camber. There is this chance that it will rub. I have driven it normally on the street, but I honestly don't feel great about taking it to the track
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