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cossie1600 07-24-2010 06:19 PM

did you only do 2 tires? if so, its kind of expected

yes sidewall is like noodle on this tire, i had to run them at a very high pressure to prevent the tires from rolling over

josh88 07-25-2010 02:21 PM

Not sure why that would be expected when only replacing two tires... It should make no difference

m4a1mustang 07-25-2010 02:28 PM

Well, you should always run matching sets all around. If you mix and match you end up running into handling issues. A lot of weird things can happen when you run one set of tires up front and a different set out back.

cossie1600 07-25-2010 06:30 PM

Kind of obvious, let's put on a size 8 and a size 9 shoe and see what happens.

m4a1mustang 07-25-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 644044)
Kind of obvious, let's put on a size 8 and a size 9 shoe and see what happens.

:stirthepot:

Matt 07-25-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 644044)
Kind of obvious, let's put on a size 8 and a size 9 shoe and see what happens.

If I'm not mistaken, the question is about using 2 different sizes of tires, but simply 2 different brands.

I.E. my rear 2 tires go bald and I replace the stock Yokohama's with Hankook's. Yoko's on the front and Hankook's in the rear.

To the average Joe (read:me), that seems perfectly fine, especially if my fronts are good for another 5-10k miles (mine are wearing evenly, so it's moot to me).

TongMan 07-29-2010 09:55 AM

If my fronts are still good, I would not replace them.

Knives 07-30-2010 12:15 AM

Obviously they won't have the same tread, compound, different characteristics in different weather, etc. Your handling will be worse and braking will probably suffer too. Don't get me wrong, it's not like you will spin out into a tree the moment you go over 40mph, but you are hampering performance and a bit of safety IMO.

Pushing_Tin 08-15-2010 07:39 PM

Btt

the_student 08-15-2010 09:58 PM

Tires feeling better after 1000 miles. They grip really well. I've gotten used to the Soft sidewall but wish they were stiffer. Very good tires and would be even better if they were stiffer.

m4a1mustang 08-15-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Knives (Post 651823)
Obviously they won't have the same tread, compound, different characteristics in different weather, etc. Your handling will be worse and braking will probably suffer too. Don't get me wrong, it's not like you will spin out into a tree the moment you go over 40mph, but you are hampering performance and a bit of safety IMO.

I don't get that feeling at all. These things are awesome on the street. Yes, they "feel" a little softer than the stock Bridgestones but my god they tore up The Dragon back at ZDayZ. No negative safety or performance impact at all, IMO.

nuts4nissan09 08-29-2010 11:39 AM

Love these tires!
 
Thanks to all of you who bought these tires and have commented on their performance/characteristics. I had these installed three days ago to replace the worn out 050's (15,xxx miles). What a difference these tires have made to the car! Leaving tomorrow morning and heading for the Blue Ridge Parkway/ Deals Gap/Cherohala Skyway roller coaster. It only took The Tire Rack two days to deliver my tires (standard UPS). Very happy w/ this purchase. One thing I'd like to pass on is that two of my wheel locks broke and the other two had a slight rust ring around the top third of the nut. These nuts had a straight shaft and the replacements from Nissan had a thick flange. Glad my installer was able to remove them. I would hate to have to deal w/ that on the side of the road.

Pushing_Tin 08-29-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nuts4nissan09 (Post 699219)
Thanks to all of you who bought these tires and have commented on their performance/characteristics. I had these installed three days ago to replace the worn out 050's (15,xxx miles). What a difference these tires have made to the car! Leaving tomorrow morning and heading for the Blue Ridge Parkway/ Deals Gap/Cherohala Skyway roller coaster. It only took The Tire Rack two days to deliver my tires (standard UPS). Very happy w/ this purchase. One thing I'd like to pass on is that two of my wheel locks broke and the other two had a slight rust ring around the top third of the nut. These nuts had a straight shaft and the replacements from Nissan had a thick flange. Glad my installer was able to remove them. I would hate to have to deal w/ that on the side of the road.

Thanks for the update! You need to post more! :tup:

kgreen 08-29-2010 07:46 PM

Im in need for new rears but my fronts are still fine. Has anyone installed the V12's just for the rears?

wilsonp 08-29-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 677240)
I don't get that feeling at all. These things are awesome on the street. Yes, they "feel" a little softer than the stock Bridgestones but my god they tore up The Dragon back at ZDayZ. No negative safety or performance impact at all, IMO.

I think he meant when replacing just the rears - you seemed to agree earlier in the thread.

nuts4nissan09 08-30-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 699704)
Thanks for the update! You need to post more! :tup:

Your right. I haven't had much to add to the forum until now. I've been doing alot of reading though. This forum is a great resource for those of us that love these cars.

nuts4nissan09 09-01-2010 03:06 PM

Back from the mountains!
 
Just wanted to update my experience w/ these tires. Drove @ 1,300 miles and was impressed w/ the compliant ride. It really helped to keep the car planted through mid-corner bumps and rough pavement. I do have some criticims, though. I noticed a slight vibration that increased w/ speed (may be a wheel balance issue). I am susceptible to motion sickness, but have not been afflicted when I was driving until now. Made it about 1/2 way through the Dragon and had to pull over. The added sway from the soft sidewall was just too much on this road. Sat down on a pull-off for about twenty minutes and took it somewhat easy until I saw the Killboy crew. Had to get on it a little. The tires performed really well on the somewhat relaxed curves of the Cherohala and the Blue Ridge Parkway. I could feel a little more roll compared to the 050's. Was on these same roads last spring when the car had @ 2,000 miles and was very impressed by how it just railed.

TongMan 09-01-2010 05:28 PM

so the sidewalls are really that weak?

the_student 09-01-2010 06:08 PM

Weaker sidewall than the stockers but not thaaat bad. I just went on a mountain run a couple of weeks ago and I can identify with nuts4nissan.

One thing is I didnt try the tires with stock suspension since im on KWV3s. Since I have had more miles on the hankooks, they are more predictable and I am more comfortable with the sidewall roll. Its something to get used to but really isnt too bad after a while. Very good street tire especially for the price, cant wait to see how good they are in the wet. No regrets

I do want to try re-11's next time though.

mattjk 09-01-2010 06:24 PM

Anybody have steering wheel shake with these tires? I've had them balanced 3 different times, on two different machines (Hunter Road force) and two sets of wheels. I have very slight vibration at 65mph that I just can't get rid of. I am also using centering rings.

I'm trying to not drive the car until I get this sorted. My next balance is going to be an "on the car" balance in Long Beach.

This is something that really bugs the **** out of me, and I don't want my ball joints wearing prematurely.

My stockers were smooth.

Red__Zed 09-01-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 703901)
so the sidewalls are really that weak?

I never ran them on a Z, but I felt they were pretty mushy...

nuts4nissan09 09-01-2010 07:07 PM

Tire vibration!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjk (Post 703956)
Anybody have steering wheel shake with these tires? I've had them balanced 3 different times, on two different machines (Hunter Road force) and two sets of wheels. I have very slight vibration at 65mph that I just can't get rid of. I am also using centering rings.

I'm trying to not drive the car until I get this sorted. My next balance is going to be an "on the car" balance in Long Beach.

This is something that really bugs the **** out of me, and I don't want my ball joints wearing prematurely.

My stockers were smooth.

I am having this same issue. The 050s were stiff, but smooth. On good pavement it felt like I could run to the speed limiter w/ total confidence. Not so much now. The installer is someone who I've trusted for 20 yrs and will definitely be trying to work this out asap. Wish I hadn't put the miles on these tires, but couldn't feel the slight vibration at the low speeds @ home. I just hope it can be resolved w/ weight adjustment.

cossie1600 09-01-2010 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 703901)
so the sidewalls are really that weak?

Yes they are

vipor 09-02-2010 08:36 AM

They seem to have more initial bite than my stock Yoko Advan Sports (could be the larger contact patch since I went wider) but they seem to not hold quite as much. They are more noisy for sure but in this one turn I take almost daily I can only push to about 61/62 until I start getting some obvious push and a have even oversteered a smidge. On my Yokos I could easily manage another 5mph or so.

mattjk 09-13-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuts4nissan09 (Post 704023)
I am having this same issue. The 050s were stiff, but smooth. On good pavement it felt like I could run to the speed limiter w/ total confidence. Not so much now. The installer is someone who I've trusted for 20 yrs and will definitely be trying to work this out asap. Wish I hadn't put the miles on these tires, but couldn't feel the slight vibration at the low speeds @ home. I just hope it can be resolved w/ weight adjustment.

I lowered my car recently, and the shake is about 90% gone. Maybe the taller stock ride height makes the steering more prone to vibrations, the angle of the tie rods, etc.

I'm still going to take it in for on the car balancing.

vipor 09-13-2010 03:36 PM

Just had some downpours and my Hankooks performed very well in the rain. I'm talking flash floods, real rain. Even got on it a little bit to do some "testing" :driving:

fuct 09-13-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 719342)
Just had some downpours and my Hankooks performed very well in the rain. I'm talking flash floods, real rain. Even got on it a little bit to do some "testing" :driving:

likewise. goooooo hurriciane season!!!!!!

but yes V12's held up nice.

i was guna make a side wall comment until i saw what was above. i agree the side walls look and feel weak. kinda concerns me if i get a lil rear end happy and break it loose too often... since thats how i cut my yokos.... grrrr

m4a1mustang 09-13-2010 03:59 PM

I was definitely impressed by the V12s wet weather performance!

Pushing_Tin 09-14-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjk (Post 703956)
Anybody have steering wheel shake with these tires? I've had them balanced 3 different times, on two different machines (Hunter Road force) and two sets of wheels. I have very slight vibration at 65mph that I just can't get rid of. I am also using centering rings.

I'm trying to not drive the car until I get this sorted. My next balance is going to be an "on the car" balance in Long Beach.

This is something that really bugs the **** out of me, and I don't want my ball joints wearing prematurely.

My stockers were smooth.

No problems for me, but my car is bone stock.

NyCSnEaK 09-18-2010 01:09 PM

You get exactly what you pay for when it comes to tires. Advan 08, Re-11R, PS2 & 3, Toyo Proxes line and Corsa's. Everything else besides R rubber is inferior to the aforementioned tires, in every performance aspect, especially sidewall.

Azroadster 09-18-2010 01:36 PM

I have had absolutely no negative issues with these tires. My car is bone stock except for spacers and I did get wider rubber when I purchased the Hankooks. I have had them for about a month and so far, IMO they are great and are an exceptional value. I like them SO much better than the OEM Bridgestones. The RE050's did not provide the same traction as the V-12's, were ridiculously loud and didn't last but 16K miles. I would have spent well over $600 more to replace the OEM's with more RE050's and that simply was not going to happen.

I stopped worrying about some tire snobs opinions years ago. I have some acquantances with Bimmers that will run nothing but P-Zeros or Michelins. They sneer at any other manufacturer. I feel sorry for those guys and can't imagine the $$$ that they are spending on rubber. I ran Yoko S-drives on my Mazdaspeed Miata and could run circles around them most of the time. If I tracked my car I would probably feel differently, but I'm too old for that s*** anymore.

AZ

mikeTO 09-18-2010 04:14 PM

Anyone in GTA see the article in the Star today? The Hankooks came off pretty well:

Three perfect tires for every budget | Wheels.ca

Nitex 09-18-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuts4nissan09 (Post 704023)
I am having this same issue. The 050s were stiff, but smooth. On good pavement it felt like I could run to the speed limiter w/ total confidence. Not so much now. The installer is someone who I've trusted for 20 yrs and will definitely be trying to work this out asap. Wish I hadn't put the miles on these tires, but couldn't feel the slight vibration at the low speeds @ home. I just hope it can be resolved w/ weight adjustment.

I am also having the exact same issue with these tires. Anything over 60 mph on my first balance was not acceptable amount of vibration. After a re-balance by a better tech it got smoother. However i still feel the vibrations to some extent over 70mph. I was worried that my new wheels were the cause. But with so many people having the same issue, I'm not convinced.

Anyone else? Maybe its a certain size, as it seems my fronts were the worst. 275/35/19F 305/30/19R.

Pushing_Tin 09-19-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NyCSnEaK (Post 726703)
You get exactly what you pay for when it comes to tires. Advan 08, Re-11R, PS2 & 3, Toyo Proxes line and Corsa's. Everything else besides R rubber is inferior to the aforementioned tires, in every performance aspect, especially sidewall.

100% incorrect, as several unbiased tire test have confirmed. If you want to spend an extra $600+ more power to you, but stop the BS.

Taken for the tire test posted above:

Quote:

Hankook Ventus V12 EVO K110

To mix fairy tales, this is “the little tire that could.” It is, in plain terms, just a great tire. It’s good in the wet, the dry, on smooth or rough roads — it likes it all. It performs flawlessly in every test category and scores well above average compared to the competition.
Hankook is challenging consumer’s preconceptions about non-main brand tires. Now this Korean company has set its sights on high-end cars like Mercedes, BMW and Porsche. The EVO12 is the result.

The tire is the perfect fit for the average driver of the average high-end car. The tire is never an absolute best in any category but it is so consistent in top third results that it just feels right driving it everywhere but on the track.

The EVO is has tons of grip and is easy to drive and control. Most drivers will not want to push their cars hard enough to find the tire’s handling limits. And if they did, they would find a tire that just fades away from grip with no sudden surprises. It is very drivable at the limit.

The limits are high, wet or dry. The steering feedback gives a good sense of what is happening at the contact patch. The tire has a central continuous rib, so it tracks straight when the roads get rutty. The EVO V12 is a super tire for those who value ride comfort above absolute grip.

When price is factored in, the Hankook becomes an even wiser buy. It outperforms most of its more expensive rivals and only yields to the elite of its class. And on average, it costs about 30 per cent less. A P225/40R18 retails for about $190.
So if you're the Stig, or running your car on the track every week then the V12s are not for you.

Pushing_Tin 09-19-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 726883)
I am also having the exact same issue with these tires. Anything over 60 mph on my first balance was not acceptable amount of vibration. After a re-balance by a better tech it got smoother. However i still feel the vibrations to some extent over 70mph. I was worried that my new wheels were the cause. But with so many people having the same issue, I'm not convinced.

Anyone else? Maybe its a certain size, as it seems my fronts were the worst. 275/35/19F 305/30/19R.


This is the exact reason I kept stock sizes on my car. Nissan did a lot of testing and decided (for whatever reason) that the stock sizes were ideal. Does anybody that kept the stock size have this vibration?

90 ST 09-19-2010 08:36 PM

i have the V12's on my car, one size bigger in the rear and no problems, can't wait to put the fronts on in the spring. GREAT tire for the money.

Azroadster 09-19-2010 08:57 PM

I have 275/35's up front and have had no vibrations problems whatsoever.

AZ

FricFrac 09-19-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azroadster (Post 726744)
I have had absolutely no negative issues with these tires. My car is bone stock except for spacers and I did get wider rubber when I purchased the Hankooks. I have had them for about a month and so far, IMO they are great and are an exceptional value. I like them SO much better than the OEM Bridgestones. The RE050's did not provide the same traction as the V-12's, were ridiculously loud and didn't last but 16K miles. I would have spent well over $600 more to replace the OEM's with more RE050's and that simply was not going to happen.

I stopped worrying about some tire snobs opinions years ago. I have some acquantances with Bimmers that will run nothing but P-Zeros or Michelins. They sneer at any other manufacturer. I feel sorry for those guys and can't imagine the $$$ that they are spending on rubber. I ran Yoko S-drives on my Mazdaspeed Miata and could run circles around them most of the time. If I tracked my car I would probably feel differently, but I'm too old for that s*** anymore.

AZ

Just wondering what spacers you went with with the 275 and 305s. Also did you consider the S-Drives instead of the V12s? Now that you have the V12s do you think the S-Drives would be comparable. I'm running S-Drives on my 280ZX and I really like them but the V12s and the Ecstas are my other choice..... all three seem like the best bang for the buck....

Azroadster 09-20-2010 08:14 AM

I'm runnihg H&R spacers. I can't off the top of my head remember the designation for the type I have, but they required that I change out the lugs to correspondingly longer lugs so that the amount of lug protuding from the spacer is the same as stock. They are not the bolt on type. They are also hubcentric, which was very important to me. I am using 15mm in front and 20mm in back. I purchased them from Stillen.

The Discount Tire that mounted my tires last month was very hesitant to touch my car because of the spacers until they saw that they were first rate, hubcentric and used the longer lugs. I highly recommend the H&R's if you are looking at spacers.

AZ

fuct 09-20-2010 08:50 AM

no vibrations on my rear set of 305/30/19's. the soft rear side wall compliments the stiff nismo rear end quite nicely.


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