Replacing Stocks with Hankook's... now or later?

flashburn · 05-10-2010, 05:28 PM

So I've basically decided on getting the Hankook Ventus V12's, I guess in sizes 245/40 and 285/35. I probably have about 2000-4000 miles (2-3 months) left on the stockers. Should I bother waiting until I run the stock tires down more? Or would it be worth doing the upgrade now?

m4a1mustang · 05-10-2010, 05:39 PM

If you think your Bridgestones are fine for another few thousand miles keep them on the car... no point in throwing away 2-3k of tread.

flashburn · 05-10-2010, 07:16 PM

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, but I wasn't sure if it would be worth doing the upgrade now rather than later.

Tresfr · 05-11-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, but I wasn't sure if it would be worth doing the upgrade now rather than later.

I realize the Bridgestones are not the best bang for the buck tire. However, I do not see the Hankooks as an upgrade. They are a better value but I would be surprised if there was not a slight drop in performance. The Hankooks will ride a little smoother and be quiter but they are are performance downgrade.

theDreamer · 05-11-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tresfr

I realize the Bridgestones are not the best bang for the buck tire. However, I do not see the Hankooks as an upgrade. They are a better value but I would be surprised if there was not a slight drop in performance. The Hankooks will ride a little smoother and be quiter but they are are performance downgrade.

And why do you say that?
Minus the high heat track situations, the V12 have shown to be on par or better in many fields.

flashburn · 05-11-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

And why do you say that?
Minus the high heat track situations, the V12 have shown to be on par or better in many fields.

That was also my understanding. I figured at least the reduced tire noise and (slightly?) smoother ride would be enough of a reason.

m4a1mustang · 05-11-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tresfr

I realize the Bridgestones are not the best bang for the buck tire. However, I do not see the Hankooks as an upgrade. They are a better value but I would be surprised if there was not a slight drop in performance. The Hankooks will ride a little smoother and be quiter but they are are performance downgrade.

This was my view before I ordered them, but after having talked to a couple friends that have experience with them I decided to pull the trigger.

After having them on for a while I definitely feel like they are better performers than the Bridgestones not only in terms of overall ride quality (noise mostly), but in cornering performance as well. These are surprising tires to say the least, and I'm completely satisfied with them!

The RE050As are just a waste of money.

TBSS2008 · 05-11-2010, 03:55 PM

No Nitto NT05's?

I only have 5,000 miles on them so too soon to say how long they are going to last, but damn they are sticky! And they are a lot quieter then the Bridgestone’s. Very very predictable at the limit and high speeds plus they look really cool. I remember comparing the V12s and the Nitto NT05 and the price difference was about $300.00 dollars so the Hankooks are a good buy.

Attaboy · 05-11-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tresfr

I realize the Bridgestones are not the best bang for the buck tire. However, I do not see the Hankooks as an upgrade. They are a better value but I would be surprised if there was not a slight drop in performance. The Hankooks will ride a little smoother and be quiter but they are are performance downgrade.

agreed... mostly. i went with the Hankook V12s for my first replacements solely due to cost. they are not quite on par with the stockers perfomance-wise, but they were about $100.00 a piece cheaper than the stock Potenzas.

they ride way more quiet than the Potenzas, but i can definitely tell a difference in performance when pushing the car. for now, the price difference was worth a small drop in perfomormance but for the next set i think i will try something different. no other way to find the perfect set for your specific needs.

m4a1mustang · 05-11-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Attaboy

agreed... mostly. i went with the Hankook V12s for my first replacements solely due to cost. they are not quite on par with the stockers perfomance-wise, but they were about $100.00 a piece cheaper than the stock Potenzas.

they ride way more quiet than the Potenzas, but i can definitely tell a difference in performance when pushing the car. for now, the price difference was worth a small drop in perfomormance but for the next set i think i will try something different. no other way to find the perfect set for your specific needs.

My guess is once you get enough heat in the tires (i.e. track situation) the RE050As will outperform, but as far as I've been able to tell (spirited street driving at the most), the V12s are as good or better than the Bridgestones.

I will probably see at least one track day with these tires so I'll be sure to report back.

Attaboy · 05-11-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

My guess is once you get enough heat in the tires (i.e. track situation) the RE050As will outperform, but as far as I've been able to tell (spirited street driving at the most), the V12s are as good or better than the Bridgestones.

I will probably see at least one track day with these tires so I'll be sure to report back.

good point there.. i havent driven with the V12s on a good warm day yet. they may be better when hot...

the main difference i feel grip wise between the Potenzas and the V12s is minor.. almost like there is a bit of squirm in the rears when coming through a corner at the limit. the potenzas just felt solid. for now i am just happy that the V12s are so much quieter!

Pushing_Tin · 05-14-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tresfr

I realize the Bridgestones are not the best bang for the buck tire. However, I do not see the Hankooks as an upgrade. They are a better value but I would be surprised if there was not a slight drop in performance. The Hankooks will ride a little smoother and be quiter but they are are performance downgrade.

I was thinking the same thing until I read all the reviews from tirerack and this comparo from last year's car and driver test. The Hankooks placed second. I just ordered mine today and will probably wait another month or two before I have them installed to get every last bit of tread out of the Bridgestones. I will report back when I've driven with them on for a bit.

Tire Test: Nine Affordable Summer Tires Take On the Michelin PS2 - Comparison Tests - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

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“Deceptively quick” is a good summation of the Hankook Ventus V12 Evos because they often didn’t feel as strong as they actually were, particularly in the dry. Their fourth-place autocross time wasn’t spectacular, but they did outlap the benchmark Michelin PS2s. Geswein said the Hankooks felt “somewhat soft” and “imprecise,” although they were forgiving, yielding consistent laps with no surprises. Despite that feeling of softness, the V12 Evos somehow managed a second-place skidpad run of 0.93 g and were above average in braking. Hankook just launched a new extreme-performance Ventus R-S3 model, which wasn’t available in time for this test but likely has sharper dry responses.

In the wet, however, the V12s were as sporty and connected as they come, with grip second only to the PS2s’ and the best braking. The Hankooks were extremely consistent, likely because they were so well-behaved, which made them easy to drive quickly. Subjectively, they felt the best around the track, even though their time trailed slightly behind the Dunlops’.

With above-average wet and dry performances, and tying for quietest on the street loop, the V12 Evo is an impressive and well-rounded summer tire. And, at $106, it’s a bargain, too.

cossie1600 · 05-11-2010, 05:42 PM

If you have the $$, get the RE11. They are quieter, grip better and ride nicer than stock

flashburn · 05-11-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

If you have the $$, get the RE11. They are quieter, grip better and ride nicer than stock

Didn't seem like there was a good size for the stock sport rims on the RE-11's.

I was thinking of getting the NT05's at first, but between treadwear, wet traction, and price, I decided not to, replacing my tires possibly more than once a year is not something I'd like to do.

cossie1600 · 05-12-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Didn't seem like there was a good size for the stock sport rims on the RE-11's.

I was thinking of getting the NT05's at first, but between treadwear, wet traction, and price, I decided not to, replacing my tires possibly more than once a year is not something I'd like to do.

265/35/19 and 285/35/19 works pretty well on my car. 2 wins in 2 tries

05-10-2010, 05:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Replacing Stocks with Hankook's... now or later? So I've basically decided on getting the Hankook Ventus V12's, I guess in sizes 245/40 and 285/35. I probably have about 2000-4000 miles (2-3 months) left on the stockers. Should I bother waiting until I run the stock tires down more? Or would it be worth doing the upgrade now?

05-10-2010, 05:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	If you think your Bridgestones are fine for another few thousand miles keep them on the car... no point in throwing away 2-3k of tread. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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TBSS2008 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 195 Drives: 11 Corvette GS 6spd Rep Power: 16	No Nitto NT05's? I only have 5,000 miles on them so too soon to say how long they are going to last, but damn they are sticky! And they are a lot quieter then the Bridgestone’s. Very very predictable at the limit and high speeds plus they look really cool. I remember comparing the V12s and the Nitto NT05 and the price difference was about $300.00 dollars so the Hankooks are a good buy. __________________ 2011 Black Corvette Grand Sport 6spd \| NNP Daul Mode Exhaust 2008 Trail Blazer SS Black \| SuperChips Tune 2009 370Z Black 7AT Touring Sport (TRADED)

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flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, but I wasn't sure if it would be worth doing the upgrade now rather than later.

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