The "Will it fit?" thread

[KaienZ34]

Originally Posted by Alstann

That's gonna be an aggressive setup, especially with little to no stretch. What tire sizing do you want to run? I'd say that's hard to do with a low camber.

He already went for it, i think they are for sale now.

[Alstann]

Oh christ. I didn't realize how old that post was.

[ktmmike]

Hi,
I am new to the370Z forum, and researching and test driving new and used 370Z's BEFORE buying one.
I have a number of questions INCLUDING some "does it fit" questions:

1. Yes, I know the rear wheels and tires are wider than the fronts, but I also read about 2011's with OEM 18" wheels, and spoke to a dealer who said the base model 2014 in his lot has 19" inch wheels. Is this an error, or did they actually change the wheel size since a certain year or what?

2. Are they interchangeable?

3. I also saw a 350Z this morning with 17" OEM? wheels.

4. Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever tried bolting 350Z wheels onto a 370Z or vice versa?

5. There is SO MUCH info here. Is there a section of this forum with all the specs posted year by year so I can look some of this stuff up myself?

Thanx,
Mike

[Alstann]

Originally Posted by ktmmike

Hi,
I am new to the370Z forum, and researching and test driving new and used 370Z's BEFORE buying one.
I have a number of questions INCLUDING some "does it fit" questions:

1. Yes, I know the rear wheels and tires are wider than the fronts, but I also read about 2011's with OEM 18" wheels, and spoke to a dealer who said the base model 2014 in his lot has 19" inch wheels. Is this an error, or did they actually change the wheel size since a certain year or what?

2. Are they interchangeable?

3. I also saw a 350Z this morning with 17" OEM? wheels.

4. Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever tried bolting 350Z wheels onto a 370Z or vice versa?

5. There is SO MUCH info here. Is there a section of this forum with all the specs posted year by year so I can look some of this stuff up myself?

Thanx,
Mike

ktmmike, welcome to the370z.com.

1. The 2014 370Z base still comes with 18" wheels. The sport package gives an upgrade to 19" wheels. Does the car on the lot have red brakes that say "NISSAN" on them? If so, it has the sport package.

2. The wheels are indeed interchangeable, with no modifications whatsoever. The only limitation with Sport package-equipped (the one with the big brakes) is that you CANNOT fit smaller than 18" wheels. Anything 18" or larger is fine.

3. The 350Z also had wheel options - a base 17" wheel with (I think) 6-7 spokes? And it had an optional 18" forged by Rays wheel option with 5 spokes.

4. I have seen 370z 19" wheels on a 350z before, and I thought it looked great.

5. I don't think there is a specific thread, but correct me if I'm wrong. All it boils down to is this:

US Spec 370z's from 2009-present can come optioned in 5 manners:

-Base
-Base+Sport
-Base+Touring
-Touring+Sport
-NISMO

The base and base+touring models have 18" wheels and smaller brakes. Any Z with the sport package will have larger brakes, and the 19" forged by Rays wheels.

The NISMO has it's own body kit, and NISMO branded 19" wheels that are wider than the Sport package 19" wheels.

If you want more info, don't hesitate to search, or if you can't find it, ask!

[CarbonFZ]

Originally Posted by Alstann

Oh christ. I didn't realize how old that post was.

haha thanks Kaizen!
and yea they are for sale now looking for a more aggressive set up.


yea im running a 285 on an 11 and a 245 on a 10

running -2 camber in front and -3.5 on the rear.

[ktmmike]

Originally Posted by Alstann

ktmmike, welcome to the370z.com.

1. The 2014 370Z base still comes with 18" wheels. The sport package gives an upgrade to 19" wheels. Does the car on the lot have red brakes that say "NISSAN" on them? If so, it has the sport package.

2. The wheels are indeed interchangeable, with no modifications whatsoever. The only limitation with Sport package-equipped (the one with the big brakes) is that you CANNOT fit smaller than 18" wheels. Anything 18" or larger is fine.

3. The 350Z also had wheel options - a base 17" wheel with (I think) 6-7 spokes? And it had an optional 18" forged by Rays wheel option with 5 spokes.

4. I have seen 370z 19" wheels on a 350z before, and I thought it looked great.

5. I don't think there is a specific thread, but correct me if I'm wrong. All it boils down to is this:

US Spec 370z's from 2009-present can come optioned in 5 manners:

-Base
-Base+Sport
-Base+Touring
-Touring+Sport
-NISMO

The base and base+touring models have 18" wheels and smaller brakes. Any Z with the sport package will have larger brakes, and the 19" forged by Rays wheels.

The NISMO has it's own body kit, and NISMO branded 19" wheels that are wider than the Sport package 19" wheels.

If you want more info, don't hesitate to search, or if you can't find it, ask!

Thanx Alstann,

That is exactly what I needed to know.

Next question:
1. If we were to take a BASE 18'' front wheel WITH STOCK TIRE MOUNTED,
and stand it next to a BASE + SPORT 19" front wheel with stock tire mounted, would they be the same height (and same circumference) ???
(in other words, does the 18" wheel come with a HIGHER PROFILE TIRE than the 19" wheel in order to make them the same height???)

[Fantastic Z]

Would an 11" wheel with a +15 or +18 offset in the rear using a 295 or 305 poke too much on a stock height Z? Perhaps a +25? Im digging now for it but, most of you guys are lowered on SOMETHING lol

[kenyonscs]

Hi everyone,

I'm getting ready to buy the first set of new tires for my 2011 Touring/Sport Coupe. I want to increase the tire size but keep the original Rays Sport rims (F19x9+47, R19x10+30), without suspension mods or spacers.

From what I can tell from online size calculators and reading this forum, it looks like the maximums are (F) 275/35-19 and (R) 305/30-19. I'm a little concerned about excess sidewall bulge and "squirmy" handling with the stock wheels. From what I can tell there shouldn't be any rubbing or interference problems, and the height is only about .2" lower.

I'm looking at Bridgestone Pole S-04's (Summer) or RE970AS's (all season). Any recommendations on the sizes and tire selections?

Thanks

[Alstann]

Originally Posted by ktmmike

Thanx Alstann,

That is exactly what I needed to know.

Next question:
1. If we were to take a BASE 18'' front wheel WITH STOCK TIRE MOUNTED,
and stand it next to a BASE + SPORT 19" front wheel with stock tire mounted, would they be the same height (and same circumference) ???
(in other words, does the 18" wheel come with a HIGHER PROFILE TIRE than the 19" wheel in order to make them the same height???)

ktmmike,

You are correct. The base 18" wheel comes from the factory with a taller (higher profile) tire. If we take a look at the rear wheels only, the base model comes with a 245/45-18 tire in the rear, where the sport 19" wheel comes with a 275/35-19 tire in the rear. You will find that these tires are only .1 inch different in overall diameter, or in other words, they are the same height overall.

So, if you were to take a set of base wheels and tires, and slap them on the Sport package equipped Z, the speedometer would be almost exactly identical.

[Alstann]

Originally Posted by kenyonscs

Hi everyone,

I'm getting ready to buy the first set of new tires for my 2011 Touring/Sport Coupe. I want to increase the tire size but keep the original Rays Sport rims (F19x9+47, R19x10+30), without suspension mods or spacers.

From what I can tell from online size calculators and reading this forum, it looks like the maximums are (F) 275/35-19 and (R) 305/30-19. I'm a little concerned about excess sidewall bulge and "squirmy" handling with the stock wheels. From what I can tell there shouldn't be any rubbing or interference problems, and the height is only about .2" lower.

I'm looking at Bridgestone Pole S-04's (Summer) or RE970AS's (all season). Any recommendations on the sizes and tire selections?

Thanks

Both of those tire choices are very nice tires - although, they are both suited for different purposes. I've personally owned both tires, so I'll throw my 2c in!

First off, if we want to talk about sizing up the tires, there are several combinations you can do, such as a 245/40 and 285/35 (stock NISMO sizing), or a 265/35 and 305/30 (beefy setup). With an online size calculator, like you've been using, you can play around with sizing a bit to see what matches up nicely.

As for sidewall bulge and squirmy handling, something I can note is that the RE970AS have SOFT sidewalls. I had a set of 4 on the car for about 50 miles before I decided I hated them. The RE970AS have phenomenal grip, though. They hooked up better than my stock RE050A (I ran a 255/40 and 295/30 setup with them - it was weird, I know), but the sidewalls were so mushy and soft. It ruined the experience of the car for me. I loved how the stock tires felt very stiff and confident. However, if you don't do spirited driving often, and you want a tire that lasts, the RE970AS did that great.

I personally ended up doing a compromise setup - I ran S-04 in the front, and RE970AS in the rear. It combined the stiff sidewall up front for handling and stability, and the grip and longevity I desired in the rear tire. It was weird, but worked for me. Others said it was a bad idea.

Overall, if I had to do it again, I would run S-04 all the way around again. The S-04 handled better than the stock tires, had plenty of grip, and the sidewalls were awesome. I would trade that over the super long life of the RE970AS. Of course...if money isn't an issue, you could ball out and go for RE-11 or PSS.

[kenyonscs]

Originally Posted by Alstann

Both of those tire choices are very nice tires - although, they are both suited for different purposes. I've personally owned both tires, so I'll throw my 2c in!

First off, if we want to talk about sizing up the tires, there are several combinations you can do, such as a 245/40 and 285/35 (stock NISMO sizing), or a 265/35 and 305/30 (beefy setup). With an online size calculator, like you've been using, you can play around with sizing a bit to see what matches up nicely.

As for sidewall bulge and squirmy handling, something I can note is that the RE970AS have SOFT sidewalls. I had a set of 4 on the car for about 50 miles before I decided I hated them. The RE970AS have phenomenal grip, though. They hooked up better than my stock RE050A (I ran a 255/40 and 295/30 setup with them - it was weird, I know), but the sidewalls were so mushy and soft. It ruined the experience of the car for me. I loved how the stock tires felt very stiff and confident. However, if you don't do spirited driving often, and you want a tire that lasts, the RE970AS did that great.

I personally ended up doing a compromise setup - I ran S-04 in the front, and RE970AS in the rear. It combined the stiff sidewall up front for handling and stability, and the grip and longevity I desired in the rear tire. It was weird, but worked for me. Others said it was a bad idea.

Overall, if I had to do it again, I would run S-04 all the way around again. The S-04 handled better than the stock tires, had plenty of grip, and the sidewalls were awesome. I would trade that over the super long life of the RE970AS. Of course...if money isn't an issue, you could ball out and go for RE-11 or PSS.

Alstann,

Thanks for your insight. I like the crisp feel of stiff sidewalls, so your comment on the RE970AS is probably enough reason to go with the S-04's all around. The OEM RE050A's are all but useless in snow, but of course they're near their end of life. Hopefully new S-04's will have enough bite for what's left of Winter.

The reason for going to (F) 275/35/19 and (R) 305/35/19 is that the diameters are almost exactly the same as the stock (F) 245/40/19 and (R) 275/35/19 OEM tires. The 265/35/19's you mention are just a little smaller in diameter, but not to much. Do you anticipate any significant change in over/understeer due to the difference in width of 265 vs 275's in the front? I don't think it would be much.

My goal in going to the beefier tires is that I would get more grip, and also that they would last a little longer since they would carry a lighter load per square inch. You didn't mention any issues with clearance or rubbing so I'm guessing there are no problems.

Thanks again for the advice,

Steve

[zilverbullet]

Kaien do you have Pics of your setup. Would like to see how the poke looks on the rear.

[ktmmike]

Originally Posted by Alstann

ktmmike,

You are correct. The base 18" wheel comes from the factory with a taller (higher profile) tire. If we take a look at the rear wheels only, the base model comes with a 245/45-18 tire in the rear, where the sport 19" wheel comes with a 275/35-19 tire in the rear. You will find that these tires are only .1 inch different in overall diameter, or in other words, they are the same height overall.

So, if you were to take a set of base wheels and tires, and slap them on the Sport package equipped Z, the speedometer would be almost exactly identical.

Thanx again Alstann!

[KaienZ34]

Originally Posted by KaienZ34

My set up 19x9.5+20 with 255/35 tires up front, stock height and camber.

Originally Posted by KaienZ34

Front


Rear

Originally Posted by zilverbullet

Kaien do you have Pics of your setup. Would like to see how the poke looks on the rear.

1st few pics are stock height, then lowered on swifts in the last two pics and vid. I don't have any really good shots.

IMG_1113_zps5ef31323.mp4 Video by KaienZ34 | Photobucket

[zilverbullet]

Sorry did not see your previous post, thanks Kaien looks good! + Rep

Is a +3 in the front more or less poke than the +20? Sorry I am completely noob to offsets.