The "Will it fit?" thread

[Steeles350]

Originally Posted by Zerafian

only been in the car community since 2006. I know plenty of people that PREFER stock or close to ZERO camber but they had no other reason aside from "thats what I like" or "I dont want my tires to wear out quicker". Some people treat conservative camber like its hellaflush or dumped.

Maybe you're right though, even though Im 33, I dont really understand that perspective.

Though I do understand camber and its purpose

Somewhere along the lines people got it in their head that 0 camber was where it's supposed to be. never mind the fact that most cars have some camber built in from the factory. They have a skewed view of what excessive actually is. hell I've been in the nissan car game since 2000 and I'm still learning the black arts of suspension setup. but I spent enough time with autocrossers and drifters and reading about even better autocrossers and drifters setups to get a good idea of what to do. I bet those same people that PREFER 0 degree camber setups couldn't tell the difference in a 0 degree camber car and a -2 degree camber car. either in looks or in driving feel. especially on the street. As you said -2 isn't excessive especially when the high end of factory spec is -1.8. but then where does excessive start? but i think we are on the same page. My previous comment was meant in a "you aren't missing anything important" kinda way.

[OptionZero]

The people that prefer 0 camber don't know what camber is.

[Zerafian]

Originally Posted by Steeles350

Somewhere along the lines people got it in their head that 0 camber was where it's supposed to be. never mind the fact that most cars have some camber built in from the factory. They have a skewed view of what excessive actually is. hell I've been in the nissan car game since 2000 and I'm still learning the black arts of suspension setup. but I spent enough time with autocrossers and drifters and reading about even better autocrossers and drifters setups to get a good idea of what to do. I bet those same people that PREFER 0 degree camber setups couldn't tell the difference in a 0 degree camber car and a -2 degree camber car. either in looks or in driving feel. especially on the street. As you said -2 isn't excessive especially when the high end of factory spec is -1.8. but then where does excessive start? but i think we are on the same page. My previous comment was meant in a "you aren't missing anything important" kinda way.

agreed...I guess Id say "excessive" is when it compromises safety in the rain? I guess even then, you can give reasons why even what I consider modest, under -3, could start to cause safety issues due to outter contact patch of the tire not being fully on the road *shrug*

[OptionZero]

Originally Posted by Zerafian

Iv gone through all the stickied wheel fitment threads and Im starting to see a trend. A lot of members talk about "you will have to run extensive camber with those specs and drop" and they arent even super aggressive. When I see and read people having -2 to around -3.5, that doesnt seem anywhere near "extensive camber" Why do a lot of members on here act like it is? I had -3 on my G35 and it hardly looked aggressive or extensive/ too much. I also go 15k miles out of my rears.

am I missing something?

How people talk about camber depends on their background, or lack thereof. Thats why a DESCRIPTION like "excessive" or "extensive" doesn't help at all. For some dumbass who has never run aftermarket suspension and only drive to the grocery store, anything other than stock is "excessive"

For a VIP car on bags, -7 is just a regular Tuesday afternoon.

Camber settings are relevant because the Z DOES NOT HAVE FRONT ADJUSTMENT. There is some range in the rear

There is some camber from raising/lowering the car, but its not within your specific control.

Camber can greatly affect wheel fitment. I have steadily maintained that with the correct combination of camber, height, fender rolling, and wheel/tire sizing, you can fit essentially everything on the Z. It has a buttload of fitment, you just have to put in the effort.

This is why adjustable arms, especially in front, are so important. SPL/Voodoo arms are fully camber AND caster adjustable, so once you have those, you've unlocked the full capability of the Z.

It's also why gauging "fit" when the car is in the air is basically worthless.

[OptionZero]

Originally Posted by Zerafian

agreed...I guess Id say "excessive" is when it compromises safety in the rain? I guess even then, you can give reasons why even what I consider modest, under -3, could start to cause safety issues due to outter contact patch of the tire not being fully on the road *shrug*

You'd need to have way more than -3 deg camber for "rain safety" to be compromised.

And I would suspect tire design has a much greater affect on rain driving than any camber setting from 0 to -3.

[OptionZero]

Also, from the picture of your Z, it looks like there's a 2 finger gap from tire to fender, which also affects how your car looks

Just check out stancenation for infinite examples

[jchammond]

A setting at or near 0* is more ideal for a Dragstrip setup, or if one chooses to roast his/her tire’s & wants the most even treadwear. This a 345 off the rear of mine w/just over 14k miles & with -1.0* camber,,,though this isn’t terrible; I have blistered up some with -1.75’ish & was way worse.
Front tires have always worn even across the tread & if you’re not hard on lower speed acceleration as myself- you should be ok.



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[Zerafian]

Originally Posted by OptionZero

How people talk about camber depends on their background, or lack thereof. Thats why a DESCRIPTION like "excessive" or "extensive" doesn't help at all. For some dumbass who has never run aftermarket suspension and only drive to the grocery store, anything other than stock is "excessive"

For a VIP car on bags, -7 is just a regular Tuesday afternoon.

Camber settings are relevant because the Z DOES NOT HAVE FRONT ADJUSTMENT. There is some range in the rear

There is some camber from raising/lowering the car, but its not within your specific control.

Camber can greatly affect wheel fitment. I have steadily maintained that with the correct combination of camber, height, fender rolling, and wheel/tire sizing, you can fit essentially everything on the Z. It has a buttload of fitment, you just have to put in the effort.

This is why adjustable arms, especially in front, are so important. SPL/Voodoo arms are fully camber AND caster adjustable, so once you have those, you've unlocked the full capability of the Z.

It's also why gauging "fit" when the car is in the air is basically worthless.

Originally Posted by OptionZero

You'd need to have way more than -3 deg camber for "rain safety" to be compromised.

And I would suspect tire design has a much greater affect on rain driving than any camber setting from 0 to -3.

to make it short...I think camber amount is all about personal taste. TOO MUCH, well we know it when we see it, if we have some common sense.

[Rusty]

[Zerafian]

Originally Posted by Rusty

we need a mix of flush and hellaflush

[Djraunch]

Will 20x9.5+45 front 20x10.5+25 rear fit with 285/30/20 305/30/20? Thanks in advance! I plan to run Michelin PSS tires F/R.

[jchammond]

Originally Posted by Djraunch

Will 20x9.5+45 front 20x10.5+25 rear fit with 285/30/20 305/30/20? Thanks in advance! I plan to run Michelin PSS tires F/R.

Rear’s will fit with no issues; Fronts will be tight on clearance (turning lock to lock) as I had about a pinky finger with my +38 offset 19x10’s w/285/35’s.
And your +45’s are just 1mm further inward.
Mine was on stock suspension & you can view outer lip fitment a couple pics further back up thread...your outside lips will be 1/2” further inward than mine & 1/4” further in on rears.
You’re practically looking at 4mm front & 2mm Rear less aggressive fitment than OE Nismo Wheels.
I never rubbed anywhere-but check front really well...as you didn’t mention anything about your suspension or desired camber specs.

[Djraunch]

Originally Posted by jchammond

Rear’s will fit with no issues; Fronts will be tight on clearance (turning lock to lock) as I had about a pinky finger with my +38 offset 19x10’s w/285/35’s.
And your +45’s are just 1mm further inward.
Mine was on stock suspension & you can view outer lip fitment a couple pics further back up thread...your outside lips will be 1/2” further inward than mine & 1/4” further in on rears.
You’re practically looking at 4mm front & 2mm Rear less aggressive fitment than OE Nismo Wheels.
I never rubbed anywhere-but check front really well...as you didn’t mention anything about your suspension or desired camber specs.

Thanks for the quick reply! I plan to lower the car 1 inch on bc br Coilovers with z1 front and rear adjustable arms. I may go to a smaller spec on the front thanks for the advice!

[jchammond]

Originally Posted by Djraunch

Thanks for the quick reply! I plan to lower the car 1 inch on bc br Coilovers with z1 front and rear adjustable arms. I may go to a smaller spec on the front thanks for the advice!

You may need some extra clearance on backside of fronts w/Coilovers...I never had them before.
You may want to view all of the Z’s on this thread to get a better idea of fitment & alignment specs required.
[Official]370z wheel fitment guide (pics/specs) only.

[OptionZero]

Originally Posted by Djraunch

Will 20x9.5+45 front 20x10.5+25 rear fit with 285/30/20 305/30/20? Thanks in advance! I plan to run Michelin PSS tires F/R.

somehow you managed to find wheels with worse sizing than stock
i hope you didn't spend money on these