Spacers on stock Z?

M.Bonanni · 02-05-2009, 08:26 PM

That sucks man. Thanks for trying though. At least now everyone knows that they will have to go with extended studs and conventional spacers to push the stockers out a bit.

dlmartin81 · 02-05-2009, 09:29 PM

Aaaaw man, sorry to hear you went through the trouble. Yeah I agree, return the spacers. At least we all know now not to get that kind.

Thanks for trying.

Minicobra1 · 02-06-2009, 05:04 AM

Sorry it didn't work out, I gave you some rep points though

Question, do you think if the spacers were 20mm that it would have worked?
Maybe less of the stock lug sticking out of the spacer.

Also, from your experience, do you think we could install a standard 5mm or 8mm spacer and not have to put longer studs in, would there be enough of the stock threads ??
Something like this: http://www.futrellautowerks.com/HR-D...r-Set-P49.aspx

Thanks ;-)

Braden

semtex · 02-06-2009, 09:57 AM

I don't think 20mm spacers would have worked, because the length of the nubs sticking out exceed 5mm. It was closer to a full cm, so at a minimum you'd need 25mm spacers to even have a shot at the nubs not protruding. But at 25mm, it'd probably look bizarre -- what I call the 'skateboard effect'. Regarding the 5-8mm spacers, I would think that there'd still be enough thread. The question is whether or not that's enough to make a satisfactory difference (I guess there's only one way to find out, right?). I think as long as you're able to properly torque the lug nuts down (the manual spec says 80 ft-lbs.), you'll be okay. But use your judgment. Put at least one lug nut back on by hand to get a sense of how much thread you're working with. And I'd also recommend re-checking the torque on them after driving around for, say, 50 miles to make sure they didn't start to back out on their own. In fact, if you decide to do this, I'd recommend that you torque the lug nuts to 90 ft-lbs., just for a little extra insurance.

SiXK · 02-06-2009, 10:27 AM

thanks for the info!

I may try the H&R DRS spacers. I will probably go with the 5mm on each side on the rear only because I only want the wheels to stick out a little more.

These spacers are hubcentric and you replace the existing wheel studs with longer ones, so the spacer is just in between instead of the spacer attached to hub and wheel attached to spacer.

http://store.allsprings.com/shared/S...llsprings&All=

If the link does not take you directly there go to nissan 350Z and then to wheel spacers and then to the DRS version.

dlmartin81 · 02-07-2009, 04:15 PM

^^ Cool...can't wait to see the outcome.

NA&CH · 02-10-2009, 02:56 PM

My buddy had that problem on his car(non 370Z) he order the ones without the studs and got extended studs.

I wanted to see it done with the sport wheels. I think those wheels fit the car great. Thanks for trying.

Chris

dlmartin81 · 02-24-2009, 10:22 AM

Any updates on this topic? Has anyone successfully done it yet?

!xoible · 02-24-2009, 12:57 PM

it's your bad for not going with H&R's btw. just plug those in, one problem you might run into is the stock bolts might be too short, so buy those as well from H&R. spacers arent really rocket science!

After all im not a fan of spacers over 15 mm's. just wont look as great. but definitely beat the stock tucked-in look

semtex · 02-24-2009, 05:04 PM

I deliberately didn't go with H&R because I don't want to put in extended studs and then have studs that are too long, should I decide to remove the spacers for some reason. That's not my bad, that's my choice.

alan93rsa · 03-07-2009, 11:05 AM

If you haven't had the pleasure of banging out and then inserting 20 studs you just don't know what you are missing.

Minicobra1 · 03-07-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan93rsa

If you haven't had the pleasure of banging out and then inserting 20 studs you just don't know what you are missing.

I was thinking of doing the rears yesterday, but the people at Ichiba wouldn't let me pick up at will call, so now I'm having second thoughts.

Is it really that difficult? Looks like it might be a little easier with the stud removal tool.

Here a link to the detailed instructions: How To

alan93rsa · 03-07-2009, 11:20 PM

I'd rather use the tool made for removing the studs if possible. The amount of beating you have to do to get the studs out can't be good for the bearings and races. It's also a good idea to have a couple of open lug nuts to pull the new studs in with. I usually toast at lest 2 nuts putting in a set of 20 studs.

370ZRR · 03-08-2009, 04:02 AM

Semtex if you went with option of grinding wheels or have someone mill it out properly to keep it pretty even how much material or how deep to clear the nubs?

Minicobra1 · 03-08-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan93rsa

I'd rather use the tool made for removing the studs if possible. The amount of beating you have to do to get the studs out can't be good for the bearings and races. It's also a good idea to have a couple of open lug nuts to pull the new studs in with. I usually toast at lest 2 nuts putting in a set of 20 studs.

Any thoughts on where I can get that tool?? I've gone to a couple auto parts stores in my area, but no luck.

02-05-2009, 08:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	That sucks man. Thanks for trying though. At least now everyone knows that they will have to go with extended studs and conventional spacers to push the stockers out a bit. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

02-06-2009, 05:04 AM	#33 (permalink)
Minicobra1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County, CA. Posts: 1,205 Drives: 370Z Tour, Spt, 6mt Rep Power: 645	Sorry it didn't work out, I gave you some rep points though Question, do you think if the spacers were 20mm that it would have worked? Maybe less of the stock lug sticking out of the spacer. Also, from your experience, do you think we could install a standard 5mm or 8mm spacer and not have to put longer studs in, would there be enough of the stock threads ?? Something like this: http://www.futrellautowerks.com/HR-D...r-Set-P49.aspx Thanks ;-) Braden __________________ 370z Tour\| Spt Pack\|Navi\|BERK CBE\|Berk HFC's\| Eibach Springs\| Hotchkis Sway Bars\|SPC Camber Arms\|15mm Ichiba Wheel Spacers\| 19"Factory Nismo Wheels-Matt Black\|Stop Tech Rotors\|TWM Shifter\|3M Tint\|Black Fangs\|Black Rear Valance\|JDM Fog Light\| MY BAND-www.myspace.com/petroleum Last edited by Minicobra1; 02-06-2009 at 05:20 AM.

02-06-2009, 09:57 AM	#34 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	I don't think 20mm spacers would have worked, because the length of the nubs sticking out exceed 5mm. It was closer to a full cm, so at a minimum you'd need 25mm spacers to even have a shot at the nubs not protruding. But at 25mm, it'd probably look bizarre -- what I call the 'skateboard effect'. Regarding the 5-8mm spacers, I would think that there'd still be enough thread. The question is whether or not that's enough to make a satisfactory difference (I guess there's only one way to find out, right?). I think as long as you're able to properly torque the lug nuts down (the manual spec says 80 ft-lbs.), you'll be okay. But use your judgment. Put at least one lug nut back on by hand to get a sense of how much thread you're working with. And I'd also recommend re-checking the torque on them after driving around for, say, 50 miles to make sure they didn't start to back out on their own. In fact, if you decide to do this, I'd recommend that you torque the lug nuts to 90 ft-lbs., just for a little extra insurance. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

02-06-2009, 10:27 AM	#35 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 185	thanks for the info! I may try the H&R DRS spacers. I will probably go with the 5mm on each side on the rear only because I only want the wheels to stick out a little more. These spacers are hubcentric and you replace the existing wheel studs with longer ones, so the spacer is just in between instead of the spacer attached to hub and wheel attached to spacer. http://store.allsprings.com/shared/S...llsprings&All= If the link does not take you directly there go to nissan 350Z and then to wheel spacers and then to the DRS version. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

02-24-2009, 05:04 PM	#40 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	I deliberately didn't go with H&R because I don't want to put in extended studs and then have studs that are too long, should I decide to remove the spacers for some reason. That's not my bad, that's my choice. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

02-05-2009, 09:29 PM	#32 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 43 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 608	Aaaaw man, sorry to hear you went through the trouble. Yeah I agree, return the spacers. At least we all know now not to get that kind. Thanks for trying.

02-07-2009, 04:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 43 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 608	^^ Cool...can't wait to see the outcome.

02-10-2009, 02:56 PM	#37 (permalink)
NA&CH Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nipples Florida Posts: 298 Drives: Looking for PW 370 Rep Power: 291	My buddy had that problem on his car(non 370Z) he order the ones without the studs and got extended studs. I wanted to see it done with the sport wheels. I think those wheels fit the car great. Thanks for trying. Chris

02-24-2009, 10:22 AM	#38 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 43 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 608	Any updates on this topic? Has anyone successfully done it yet?

02-24-2009, 12:57 PM	#39 (permalink)
!xoible Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: west Posts: 245 Drives: some car Rep Power: 185	it's your bad for not going with H&R's btw. just plug those in, one problem you might run into is the stock bolts might be too short, so buy those as well from H&R. spacers arent really rocket science! After all im not a fan of spacers over 15 mm's. just wont look as great. but definitely beat the stock tucked-in look

03-07-2009, 11:05 AM	#41 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	If you haven't had the pleasure of banging out and then inserting 20 studs you just don't know what you are missing. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

03-07-2009, 11:20 PM	#43 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	I'd rather use the tool made for removing the studs if possible. The amount of beating you have to do to get the studs out can't be good for the bearings and races. It's also a good idea to have a couple of open lug nuts to pull the new studs in with. I usually toast at lest 2 nuts putting in a set of 20 studs. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

03-08-2009, 04:02 AM	#44 (permalink)
370ZRR Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Beach Posts: 94 Drives: Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 16	Semtex if you went with option of grinding wheels or have someone mill it out properly to keep it pretty even how much material or how deep to clear the nubs?

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