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mcwoowoo 03-04-2010 04:31 PM

TPMS - What happens when you take the wheels away from your car?
 
So I've been searching for awhile now, but couldn't find anyone covering this subject. ok, so here's the situation. Say I have a set of wheels that i want to use for track and they don't have TPMS. What will happen if I swap out the stock wheels with the non-TPMS wheels and use it for a track day, then switch back to the stock after I'm done. Do I still need to get the TPMS resetted? Or will the light go away after driving with stock wheels which has the original TPMS sensors?

AK370Z 03-04-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwoowoo (Post 429186)
So I've been searching for awhile now, but couldn't find anyone covering this subject. ok, so here's the situation. Say I have a set of wheels that i want to use for track and they don't have TPMS. What will happen if I swap out the stock wheels with the non-TPMS wheels and use it for a track day, then switch back to the stock after I'm done. Do I still need to get the TPMS resetted? Or will the light go away after driving with stock wheels which has the original TPMS sensors?

When you put the non TPMS rims on the car, the TPMS light will illuminate on the instrument panel (after 30 miles it will trigger, not right away).

I'm guessing, once you put the tires with TPMS back on, the car should automatically recognize it's wheel. Again, you may need to drive a little (30 miles) for the computer to recognize the rims again.

I'm 90% sure that's what will happen, though I haven't done this. I'm curious as well. :tup:

Jeffblue 03-04-2010 05:19 PM

why does it need so long to find if a TPMS sensor isn't there AT ALL but it can somehow tell instantly if you were to suddenly lose pressure?

AK370Z 03-04-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 429251)
why does it need so long to find if a TPMS sensor isn't there AT ALL but it can somehow tell instantly if you were to suddenly lose pressure?

If the system is working properly, it tell you instantly if the PSI drops below 27 on ANY rims. But if you swap a non TPMS wheel set or introduce another TPMS system to the ECU, it takes upto 30 miles for the light to go off at the dash (and it'll flash and stay lit from that point on).

jmlenz 03-04-2010 05:49 PM

Like AK said, just a small warning light that comes on in the instrument cluster. It flashes for about 30sec after you start the car then stays lit solid. I didnt transfer the TPMS over to my 20" wheels, doesnt bother me at all, the light is pretty small and unobtrusive.

Rasengan 03-04-2010 08:23 PM

if you buy a set of wheels that already has the Nissan TPMS sensors in there, for instance putting the Nismo Rays on your Sport 370Z, i'm assuming you still have to go back to Nissan to have them reprogram? or is there a way to do it without having to go to the dealer?

AK370Z 03-04-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasengan (Post 429477)
if you buy a set of wheels that already has the Nissan TPMS sensors in there, for instance putting the Nismo Rays on your Sport 370Z, i'm assuming you still have to go back to Nissan to have them reprogram? or is there a way to do it without having to go to the dealer?

You're correct. Every TPMS set is different. They have to be reset again.

My bmw friends told me they can simply reset the tpms by pressing a button on the instrument panel:rolleyes:.

Nissan can give us SychroRev match technology which is the most complicated (and awesome) transmission feature ever but we have to reset TPMS every six months :shakes head: (at least those of us who switches winter and summer rims).

No worries though, I'm working on some TPMS reset tools :happydance:

Rasengan 03-04-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 429493)
You're correct. Every TPMS set is different. They have to be reset again.

My bmw friends told me they can simply reset the tpms by pressing a button on the instrument panel:rolleyes:.

Nissan can give us SychroRev match technology which is the most complicated (and awesome) transmission feature ever but we have to reset TPMS every six months :shakes head: (at least those of us who switches winter and summer rims).

No worries though, I'm working on some TPMS reset tools :happydance:

ya figures! i just contacted my dealer and asked the same question, he says i MAY need to pull the sensors off the new wheels for the serial numbers? that seems a bit too convoluted a process! he said he'll make sure by talking to his mechanics tomorrow but do you know offhand if that is true?

AK370Z 03-04-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasengan (Post 429535)
ya figures! i just contacted my dealer and asked the same question, he says i MAY need to pull the sensors off the new wheels for the serial numbers? that seems a bit too convoluted a process! he said he'll make sure by talking to his mechanics tomorrow but do you know offhand if that is true?

WHAT? NO! false information. They can reset your tpms in 5 minutes. I think mine took 3 minutes if that. They can do it externally. Keep us posted.

Liquid_G 03-05-2010 08:58 AM

You could always make a TPMS bomb..

Got TPMS? Problem solved. - JDM Chicago-Japanese Car Community

It's a great idea and dont see why it wouldn't work for us.

Rasengan 03-05-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 429582)
WHAT? NO! false information. They can reset your tpms in 5 minutes. I think mine took 3 minutes if that. They can do it externally. Keep us posted.

Ok he got back to me this morning and said exactly what you said, dismounting is NOT required. He said, however, it should cost under $100 bucks? Does it cost that much to push a few buttons?

Liquid_G 03-05-2010 09:49 AM

Rasengan, are these the wheels you bought from Autobarn? If they are charging you I would be pissed.. how much did you just spend on those wheels and they want to charge you to match the tpms sensors to your car? That should be part of the deal imo..

Rasengan 03-05-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 430094)
Rasengan, are these the wheels you bought from Autobarn? If they are charging you I would be pissed.. how much did you just spend on those wheels and they want to charge you to match the tpms sensors to your car? That should be part of the deal imo..

oh no, i didn't get the wheels from Autobarn, they wanted too much for the Nismo Rays

still a 5 minute job shouldn't cost anywhere near $100 bones...

pgrmstr 03-05-2010 11:03 AM

If you have two sets of wheels, and both have the TPMS installed, will the car recognize both sets, and be good to go regardless of which ones you have on, swapping back and forth as needed?

mcwoowoo 03-05-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pgrmstr (Post 430181)
If you have two sets of wheels, and both have the TPMS installed, will the car recognize both sets, and be good to go regardless of which ones you have on, swapping back and forth as needed?

I think the car can only keep track of 4 sensors at a time, so if you swap a different set of wheels and get the sensors reset, the original sensors information will be lost.

AK370Z 03-05-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasengan (Post 430087)
Ok he got back to me this morning and said exactly what you said, dismounting is NOT required. He said, however, it should cost under $100 bucks? Does it cost that much to push a few buttons?

NO, that's what they wanted to charge me too but I told them I spoke to someone 2 weeks ago and they quoted me $53! (they actually did). labor rate should be half an hour NOT 1 hour. I paid $53. I mean some of our member even gets it done free of charge. Courtesy of the dealer. Tell your dealer this and see how they react. It's a freakin' 5 minute job :shakes head:

AK370Z 03-05-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 430036)
You could always make a TPMS bomb..

Got TPMS? Problem solved. - JDM Chicago-Japanese Car Community

It's a great idea and dont see why it wouldn't work for us.

If you get pulled over, you'll most likely end up in jail for carrying a pipe bomb :bowrofl: :bowrofl:





J/K :tup:

schrute 03-05-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwoowoo (Post 430305)
I think the car can only keep track of 4 sensors at a time, so if you swap a different set of wheels and get the sensors reset, the original sensors information will be lost.

:iagree:

boosted180 03-06-2010 05:49 PM

does anyone know if there are any bad effects of removing the tpms? how about if the unit is defective and causes the warning light to go off even though pressures are ok? will that somehow affect anything else on the car?

Nikon FM 03-06-2010 08:50 PM

No worries
 
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Originally Posted by boosted180 (Post 432060)
does anyone know if there are any bad effects of removing the tpms? how about if the unit is defective and causes the warning light to go off even though pressures are ok? will that somehow affect anything else on the car?

I've done this. I have two sets of wheels, one for track, the other DD. The "TPMS" light went on when I put the track set on. I have TPMS sensors in the track set but they are not recognized. I drove for about 3 days to wear the mold release off the track tires and when I put the DD set on after rolling about 1 mile the light went out.

My car did not drive or respond any differently when the TPMS light was on.....(really like the R-comps):tup:

AK370Z 03-15-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasengan (Post 430087)
Ok he got back to me this morning and said exactly what you said, dismounting is NOT required. He said, however, it should cost under $100 bucks? Does it cost that much to push a few buttons?

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 430312)
NO, that's what they wanted to charge me too but I told them I spoke to someone 2 weeks ago and they quoted me $53! (they actually did). labor rate should be half an hour NOT 1 hour. I paid $53. I mean some of our member even gets it done free of charge. Courtesy of the dealer. Tell your dealer this and see how they react. It's a freakin' 5 minute job :shakes head:

I just got my TPMS reset FREE of charge. This is another dealer from the one I had done last year. First they were gonna charge me $25 dollars but it was so quick and simple, they felt bad.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...tml#post447757

So, def do not pay $100. BTW, you can read the whole procedure in the link above. Good luck man! :tup: My TPMS's are good until November 2010 :happydance:

Minicobra1 03-16-2010 12:51 AM

That blows that you have to bring it to a dealer to reset. My Mini Cooper has the TPMS reset built into the Nav Control panel, really easy 1 minute reset.

AK370Z 03-16-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 448325)
That blows that you have to bring it to a dealer to reset. My Mini Cooper has the TPMS reset built into the Nav Control panel, really easy 1 minute reset.

:iagree: Well hopefully, they will do it for FREE from now on. If not, I AM looking into TPMS reset tools. My BMW friends were saying the same. They can reset it from their dash. I just made this statement few post back ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z
Nissan can give us SychroRev match technology which is the most complicated (and awesome) transmission feature ever but we have to reset TPMS every six months:shakes head: (at least those of us who switches winter and summer rims).


HT Rambler 03-16-2010 09:33 PM

So i'm getting new tires put on the same wheels, is there a reset nec. ?? Discount says it's 20 per wheel.?

Nikon FM 03-16-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 432382)
I've done this. I have two sets of wheels, one for track, the other DD. The "TPMS" light went on when I put the track set on. I have TPMS sensors in the track set but they are not recognized. I drove for about 3 days to wear the mold release off the track tires and when I put the DD set on after rolling about 1 mile the light went out.

My car did not drive or respond any differently when the TPMS light was on.....(really like the R-comps):tup:

Good question. Quoting myself above…………..maybe not necessary if the sensor locations remain consistent? The car will drive fine if the light comes on. You could always take it back or to the dealership for the reset.


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