Why 19?

Sharif@Forged · 03-02-2010, 02:53 PM

From a performance standpoint, the highest performance wheel is one that is large enough to just barely clear the brake caliper and rotor and no larger. Hence, the tiny wheels used in F1.

As Ryan and other mentioned, maybe people select wheels from an asthetic standpoint so there are many other factors to consider.

OEM's are simply following the bigger is better thing that consumers demand. Back in the 80's a 15 inch wheel was considered cutting edge and massive. Now a 19 is the new standard, and many cars come with 20's from the factory.

iceman21_23 · 03-02-2010, 03:01 PM

so i should feel good that there isn't even a pinky tip width between my brake caliper and my 19" oem wheels?

Sharif@Forged · 03-02-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman21_23

so i should feel good that there isn't even a pinky tip width between my brake caliper and my 19" oem wheels?

It's the space between the barrel and the caliper that is most critical from a performance standpoint.

OMGWTFBBQ · 03-02-2010, 04:47 PM

I don't know. It all depends on your purpose. If you're building a car for Redline Time Attack and you're in the Enthusiast or Street class, the widest tire you can use is 285, so there's no point in getting a 11" width wheel. Therefore, a 10" width or maybe even 10.5" width wheel would be better in this situation. A lot of 18" wheels clear the Akebonos and even the AP Racing BBK. Go check out the Robispec 370z if you want an excellent example of a purpose-built machine. On a side note, my track wheels are 18x10 all around haha. I didn't really find the need for 19's.

jeffreyfranz · 03-02-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ

I don't know. It all depends on your purpose. If you're building a car for Redline Time Attack and you're in the Enthusiast or Street class, the widest tire you can use is 285, so there's no point in getting a 11" width wheel. Therefore, a 10" width or maybe even 10.5" width wheel would be better in this situation. A lot of 18" wheels clear the Akebonos and even the AP Racing BBK. Go check out the Robispec 370z if you want an excellent example of a purpose-built machine. On a side note, my track wheels are 18x10 all around haha. I didn't really find the need for 19's.

And possibly saved yourself a fair amount of unsprung weight in the process, which was my original point. Thanks, OMGWTFBBQ (great name, BTW).

4r3s · 03-02-2010, 05:04 PM

why 19? bc theyre young, innocent, nieve, and can be talked into all kinds of your wife/gf won't do. wait whats this thread about?

m4a1mustang · 03-02-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

why 19? Bc theyre young, innocent, nieve, and can be talked into all kinds of your wife/gf won't do. Wait whats this thread about?

lol

KillerBee370 · 03-02-2010, 09:17 PM

So let me get this straight...

Will an 18" wheel fit on our sport package brakes?? I'm about to drop a hefty amount on some different wheels (Volks) and I would obviously like to save both $$ and unsprung weight if possible and go with an 18" if I can. (I track my car)

OMGWTFBBQ · 03-02-2010, 09:43 PM

Enkei RPF1's and Enkei NT03+M's fit with no problem.

Another benefit of 18's over 19's is increased tire selection and cheaper prices.

kevin.z · 03-03-2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ

Enkei RPF1's and Enkei NT03+M's fit with no problem.

Another benefit of 18's over 19's is increased tire selection and cheaper prices.

dunlop starspec's only comes in 18's. and they are the best tires according to car and driver

jeffreyfranz · 03-17-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.z

dunlop starspec's only comes in 18's. and they are the best tires according to car and driver

my point exactly, plus weight and cost

shabarivas · 03-17-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.z

dunlop starspec's only comes in 18's. and they are the best tires according to car and driver

They are absolutely not... they ranked the highest in their lame *** compro... remember the PS2s were the benchmark...

And those tires do come in 19s

OMGWTFBBQ · 03-02-2010, 09:45 PM

Oh yeah. So do Enkei PF01's and SSR Type-F.

jeffreyfranz · 03-03-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ

Oh yeah. So do Enkei PF01's and SSR Type-F.

Do you mean the Enkei PF-01 18" with the +38 offset--is that the one that fits over the Sport Package brakes? It's a nice looking wheel and may be a good deal lighter.

twotonezed · 03-08-2010, 12:17 AM

I myself enjoy the look of 19's on the 370z. There is nothing wrong with 18's though. What I don't like is too big of wheels on cars, trucks, and SUV's. I just think that they need to be correctly proportioned to the vehicle.

On an extra note: The wheels and tires of the F1 car are a beautiful thing!

03-02-2010, 02:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 18	From a performance standpoint, the highest performance wheel is one that is large enough to just barely clear the brake caliper and rotor and no larger. Hence, the tiny wheels used in F1. As Ryan and other mentioned, maybe people select wheels from an asthetic standpoint so there are many other factors to consider. OEM's are simply following the bigger is better thing that consumers demand. Back in the 80's a 15 inch wheel was considered cutting edge and massive. Now a 19 is the new standard, and many cars come with 20's from the factory. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified

03-02-2010, 04:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4550	I don't know. It all depends on your purpose. If you're building a car for Redline Time Attack and you're in the Enthusiast or Street class, the widest tire you can use is 285, so there's no point in getting a 11" width wheel. Therefore, a 10" width or maybe even 10.5" width wheel would be better in this situation. A lot of 18" wheels clear the Akebonos and even the AP Racing BBK. Go check out the Robispec 370z if you want an excellent example of a purpose-built machine. On a side note, my track wheels are 18x10 all around haha. I didn't really find the need for 19's. __________________ Zele Performance \| Varis \| Powerhouse Amuse \| Craftsquare \| Tommy Kaira \| Top Secret \| HKS \| Defi \| Volk Racing \| Cusco \| SPL \| Never ending build thread.. PM me if you have rare JDM parts for sale!

03-02-2010, 09:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 322	So let me get this straight... Will an 18" wheel fit on our sport package brakes?? I'm about to drop a hefty amount on some different wheels (Volks) and I would obviously like to save both $$ and unsprung weight if possible and go with an 18" if I can. (I track my car) Last edited by KillerBee370; 03-02-2010 at 09:19 PM.

03-02-2010, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4550	Enkei RPF1's and Enkei NT03+M's fit with no problem. Another benefit of 18's over 19's is increased tire selection and cheaper prices. __________________ Zele Performance \| Varis \| Powerhouse Amuse \| Craftsquare \| Tommy Kaira \| Top Secret \| HKS \| Defi \| Volk Racing \| Cusco \| SPL \| Never ending build thread.. PM me if you have rare JDM parts for sale!

03-02-2010, 09:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4550	Oh yeah. So do Enkei PF01's and SSR Type-F. __________________ Zele Performance \| Varis \| Powerhouse Amuse \| Craftsquare \| Tommy Kaira \| Top Secret \| HKS \| Defi \| Volk Racing \| Cusco \| SPL \| Never ending build thread.. PM me if you have rare JDM parts for sale!

03-02-2010, 03:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
iceman21_23 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: league city, tx Posts: 757 Drives: 09' Solid Red 370z Rep Power: 18	so i should feel good that there isn't even a pinky tip width between my brake caliper and my 19" oem wheels?

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4r3s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD Posts: 2,077 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 25	why 19? bc theyre young, innocent, nieve, and can be talked into all kinds of your wife/gf won't do. wait whats this thread about?

03-08-2010, 12:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
twotonezed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Moorhead Posts: 87 Drives: 09 370 base Rep Power: 16	personal preference I myself enjoy the look of 19's on the 370z. There is nothing wrong with 18's though. What I don't like is too big of wheels on cars, trucks, and SUV's. I just think that they need to be correctly proportioned to the vehicle. On an extra note: The wheels and tires of the F1 car are a beautiful thing!

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