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Jungle Prop 01-21-2009 08:43 PM

Wheels Locks
 
Can anyone recommend a quality wheel lug nut lock? I have the stock Sport Rays wheels and love em. But don't want to have em stolen either.

nogoodname 01-21-2009 08:48 PM

ask Shariff on here, he has some nice ones i think


aftermarket is a must for wheel locks, Trust me....there will be several ppl that will wake up to their Z's on bricks...happened to soo many ppl with the G37's

all nissan/infiniti use the same stock wheel lock, it's as good as a regular wheel lug

dad 01-21-2009 09:25 PM

Home - McGard: Innovative Security Products

semtex 01-22-2009 12:50 PM

I just called the parts dept at my dealership and asked about them, because mine didn't come with locks either. They said they just got their shipment of wheel locks for the 370 in. $41.95 +tax. I think Nissan locks are the same as McGards too (not sure). I'm just going to swing by the dealership and buy them there, that way I don't have to worry about not ordering the right McGards to fit the wheels.

Chupacabra 01-22-2009 02:16 PM

I got a set when i bought my car. no idea if they are installed or not. but now thinking about if everyone has access to these nissan locks there is no point.

maybe ill just rap a rattle snake around the spokes, and be ok.

Jungle Prop 01-22-2009 03:32 PM

hey Semtex can you find out if all Nissan locks are the same when you get yours. I think it's its pointless if they are. I was looking at these Gorilla Automotive Products - Lug Nuts, Wheel Locks, Auto Security, Wheel Accessories

semtex 01-22-2009 05:07 PM

Not sure what you guys mean by 'all the same'. They all have different key patterns, so it's not like a single wheel lock key will fit with all Nissan wheel locks. Oh, and they are in fact McGards. Having said that, I made the trip to the dealership and looked at the locks (which is how I know they're McGards) but I did NOT get them. Why? Because the parts guy just handed me a pack of the regular sized wheel locks that fit all Nissans. Here's the thing. I might be wrong on this, but I think the 370Z requires its own specific sized lock. I say this because when I brought my car home, I re-torqued all my lug nuts (I have trust issues with this kind of stuff), and pulled one of them off all the way just to have a look. The lug nuts are huge! Length-wise, that is. They seem to be a lot longer than normal lug nuts. So the regular 'fit all Nissans' size of wheel locks . . . I don't think they'll fit right. They seem too short. Again, I could be wrong, but I left the dealership without them. I have the 19" Rays, btw. I suspect that if you have the 18" wheels that come when you don't have the sport pkg, the regular Nissan locks will work just fine.

TerribleONE 01-22-2009 05:42 PM

i would have to disagree... ^ i have two friends who own nissans and there wheel lock keys are identical to mine..

semtex 01-22-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 23001)
i would have to disagree... ^ i have two friends who own nissans and there wheel lock keys are identical to mine..

You mean to tell me that they can pull off your wheel locks with their keys, and you can pull theirs with your key?

semtex 01-22-2009 07:15 PM

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Okay, regarding what I wrote a couple of posts back about believing that the 370Z requires unique wheel locks and can't just use the standard Nissan wheel locks -- pictures speak a thousand words, right? I pulled off a standard Nissan lug nut from my wife's Murano, then pulled one off from my Z, put them side by side, and took a couple of pics, which are below. The one on the left is from the Murano, the one on the right is from my Z. You can see how different they are, and based on the differences, I wouldn't think that a wheel lock that fits the Murano (i.e. the standard Nissan lock) will also fit the Z -- at least not if you have the 19" Rays wheels.

dad 01-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 23001)
i would have to disagree... ^ i have two friends who own nissans and there wheel lock keys are identical to mine..

I'd get rid of those in a heart beat!

nogoodname 01-22-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 22889)
I just called the parts dept at my dealership and asked about them, because mine didn't come with locks either. They said they just got their shipment of wheel locks for the 370 in. $41.95 +tax. I think Nissan locks are the same as McGards too (not sure). I'm just going to swing by the dealership and buy them there, that way I don't have to worry about not ordering the right McGards to fit the wheels.


the nissan wheel locks are as good as regular lugs....it's a total waste of money

do you know how many rims were stolen off G's????


save ur headache and buy some decent aftermarket ones

COR photog 01-22-2009 08:47 PM

I can get you a really nice set of locks with a set of our wheels ;)

Minicobra1 01-24-2009 02:48 PM

I called a 2 dealerships in my area, but neither of them had a specific part number for the 370z locks. They both told me that last years 350z locks should fit, but they were not positive. I guess I'll just have to drive over there and pull off one of the lugs to compare.

Anyone else able to get a part number?

speedworks 01-24-2009 04:14 PM

The dealer put locks on my new 370z and they were a Nissan part number and were McGards. They looked very similar to the sizing of the stocks lugs. Your dealer should be able to help you.

semtex 01-24-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 23630)
The dealer put locks on my new 370z and they were a Nissan part number and were McGards. They looked very similar to the sizing of the stocks lugs. Your dealer should be able to help you.

Which wheels do you have? The 18" that come w/o the sport pkg? Or the 19" Rays that come w. the SP?

speedworks 01-24-2009 04:30 PM

19" Rays

semtex 01-24-2009 04:39 PM

^^ Any chance you have the plastic pkg the locks came in? If so, can you provide the part number? I went to the parts counter last week and they said they didn't even show any locks for the 370Z, other than the ones that are supposed to fit all Nissans. But I took a lock off my wife's Murano and tried it with the Rays. I didn't fit right because it doesn't have that big washer/collar thing to seat correctly. (See the pics I posted earlier in the thread.) So I'm really curious to see what they put on your wheels. Any chance you could pull one off and take a pic?

speedworks 01-24-2009 04:50 PM

I don't have the package, it was thrown away (at the dealer). All I can suggest is call the dealer 401-232-2800, and inquire with them. I actually don't have the car yet, as I pick it up Monday (awaiting the license plate).

G in ny 01-24-2009 06:20 PM

Ok here we go.

People will say Mcard and Gorillla or the factory wheels locks. But I say hell no. Those are so common and can easily be broken into.

I say get your self a set of ray lugs or my personal favorite

Volk Racing Formula Nut Set
http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...5.thumb_medium http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...6.thumb_medium
http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...3.thumb_medium http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...4.thumb_medium
Volk Racing Formula Lug Nuts Feature:
- Full floating anodized aluminum head for a secure head and to prevent wheel scratches.
- Unique Chrome Manadium Body shape for high strength.
- 7 sided heptagonal shape with a special internal drive (included) for security.
- Removable anodized aluminum cap with key (included) for added security.
They run about $250! but these will never be broken into!
Save your self stress and money and get these!!!!!!!

nogoodname 01-24-2009 07:12 PM

^^ wowsers...those look awesome, does it come with 20 lugs for all lugs?

only 15 in the pics...lol


I really like how you gotta screw in the bolt heads and then use the main socket...to take them on or off............if i'm getting it right

speedworks 01-24-2009 07:15 PM

Look at the fittings, they all look like hex fittings? If so, those are way easier. Honestly, I am not worried about these wheels getting stolen - I got the wheel locks for free. If they do go (which I doubt because I don't park in areas that will allow that (garaged mostly), it would be a perfect excuse to go aftermarket (and have insurance pay for it).

nogoodname 01-24-2009 07:21 PM

^^ those are only there when you need to take them on or off, other wise...you can remove the hex's.....so theres nothing left



even with the hex's part out, i could still remove these lugs....but i won't say....lol

nogoodname 01-24-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by G in ny (Post 23686)
Ok here we go.

People will say Mcard and Gorillla or the factory wheels locks. But I say hell no. Those are so common and can easily be broken into.

I say get your self a set of ray lugs or my personal favorite

Volk Racing Formula Nut Set
http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...5.thumb_medium http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...6.thumb_medium
http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...3.thumb_medium http://www.gotuning.com/images/produ...4.thumb_medium
Volk Racing Formula Lug Nuts Feature:
- Full floating anodized aluminum head for a secure head and to prevent wheel scratches.
- Unique Chrome Manadium Body shape for high strength.
- 7 sided heptagonal shape with a special internal drive (included) for security.
- Removable anodized aluminum cap with key (included) for added security.
They run about $250! but these will never be broken into!
Save your self stress and money and get these!!!!!!!

"Note: These are TAPERED lug nuts designed for use with aftermarket wheels. They are not to be used on OEM wheels. Please check which lug nut type your wheels use before installing."

with this lug design, like the part that touches the rim is like a cone....... it's no no for stock rims....i've seen a G37 19" rim shred off the rotor.......... such an ugly picture to see... need the flat lugs for stockers

speedworks 01-24-2009 07:31 PM

Yeah, but isn't the key a hex fitting as well? It looks like both the key and the other attachment have a hex look. I am pretty sure those are for show, and not for locking. The idea is you can change out the colors of the fitting.

nogoodname 01-24-2009 07:36 PM

^^ but the Hex's have threads, how could a hex fit in a circular threading to remove the wheel, it would take a lot of hammering...lol

speedworks 01-24-2009 07:40 PM

Look at the 'bigger' key, it has a hex and is show in the lugnut

nogoodname 01-24-2009 07:45 PM

^^ I see what you mean...lol.....it's a piece of dodo now....I take back the awesome comment...

semtex 01-25-2009 08:21 AM

Guys, I talked to my wheel and tire guy. Had him take a look at the lugs that come with the 19" Rays. He says that the part number we need (for McGards) is 21153. Here's a link, and you can click on the photo. It looks right to me.

Wheel Locks and Centercap Locks - Shank Style - McGard: Innovative Security Products

Minicobra1 01-25-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 23877)
Guys, I talked to my wheel and tire guy. Had him take a look at the lugs that come with the 19" Rays. He says that the part number we need (for McGards) is 21153. Here's a link, and you can click on the photo. It looks right to me.

Wheel Locks and Centercap Locks - Shank Style - McGard: Innovative Security Products

The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now :confused:

semtex 01-25-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 23910)
The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now :confused:

Good question. I'll ask him. I already ordered a set, so I guess I'll do a test fit and let you know.

nogoodname 01-25-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 23713)
"Note: These are TAPERED lug nuts designed for use with aftermarket wheels. They are not to be used on OEM wheels. Please check which lug nut type your wheels use before installing."

with this lug design, like the part that touches the rim is like a cone....... it's no no for stock rims....i've seen a G37 19" rim shred off the rotor.......... such an ugly picture to see... need the flat lugs for stockers

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 23910)
The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now :confused:

if you decide to use all these cones shaped lugs on the stockers, you will be in trouble...... since pictures say a thousand words...i'll show you the effect of cones shaped lugs on the stock G37 rims......

I'll be back :stirthepot:

nogoodname 01-25-2009 03:18 PM

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...8Lacorda-1.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...Lacordaire.jpg

I know they are not the same lugs, but those are cone shaped....gives you the idea.....


most aftermarket wheels need the cone shaped ones...so dont mix things up by accident

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...nterwheel1.jpg

tvfreakazoid 01-25-2009 03:29 PM

Nice job catching that. You probably saved some people a couple of hundred bucks.
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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 23720)
Look at the 'bigger' key, it has a hex and is show in the lugnut


semtex 01-25-2009 04:32 PM

But the stock lugs are cone shaped. Look at the pics I posted of the stock lugs. It's a cone at the tip.

EDIT: That was meant for nogoodname007

nogoodname 01-25-2009 05:10 PM

^^ not entirely true, look at where the arrow is pointing...the stockers need that washer to hold it in place...talking about Z's and G's......not Muranos or Rogues

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...7/P1000610.jpg

semtex 01-25-2009 06:52 PM

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^^ Right, I'm aware of that. In fact, it's why I've been saying that the regular wheel locks that supposedly fit all Nissans won't work for the 370 wheels. So my wheel guy points me to these shank-type wheel locks that do have the washer, and I think cool, we're all set. I just need to order a set of these. At which point Minicobra points out that if you look at the stock lug, it still has the cone seat at the tip, while the McGard lock that my wheel guy pointed me to does not. So it's like these things are a hybrid between conical and shank! So I guess what it boils down to is this. The washer is necessary -- that much is obvious. But what about the cone tip? Is it even relevant? When I went back to my wheel guy and pointed out to him that the stock lugs have a cone tip and the McGard lock he pointed me does not, he said it should still work. In other words, he doesn't think the cone tip really matters. Do you agree with him?

Here's a pic of the McGard locks he recommended. You can see that it has the washers, but they're not conical tips.

nogoodname 01-25-2009 07:05 PM

anyone have a pic of the stock rims without a lug in it...... i really dont know if it has the cone and the shank combo.....even though I changed my rims several times....lol

G in ny 01-25-2009 07:06 PM

Are u guys seriously having a argument on stock lug locks? Smh

semtex 01-25-2009 07:09 PM

You know what? I think my wheel guy might be right about the tip not being relevant. I just noticed something in the pic comparing the Murano lug to the 370 lug. Look closely at the tip of the Murano lug on the left. See all the wear marks? So the tip is obviously making actual contact with the rim. Now look at the tip of the 370 lug. It's clean - there are no wear marks at all, which tells me that it's not actually touching the rim, and all the contact is at the washer.

Bottom line - I've got a set of the shank-style McGards on order. I should have them by Wednesday, and I'll let everyone know if they work or not. I'll be the guinea-pig on this one. ;-) If it does in fact require a tapered tip, then when I try to put the McGards on, they just won't go in all the way. If they go in all the way and I can torque them down smoothly and properly, then we're good to go.


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