Wheels Locks

semtex · 01-25-2009, 08:21 AM

Guys, I talked to my wheel and tire guy. Had him take a look at the lugs that come with the 19" Rays. He says that the part number we need (for McGards) is 21153. Here's a link, and you can click on the photo. It looks right to me.

Wheel Locks and Centercap Locks - Shank Style - McGard: Innovative Security Products

Minicobra1 · 01-25-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Guys, I talked to my wheel and tire guy. Had him take a look at the lugs that come with the 19" Rays. He says that the part number we need (for McGards) is 21153. Here's a link, and you can click on the photo. It looks right to me.

Wheel Locks and Centercap Locks - Shank Style - McGard: Innovative Security Products

The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now

semtex · 01-25-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now

Good question. I'll ask him. I already ordered a set, so I guess I'll do a test fit and let you know.

nogoodname · 01-25-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007

"Note: These are TAPERED lug nuts designed for use with aftermarket wheels. They are not to be used on OEM wheels. Please check which lug nut type your wheels use before installing."

with this lug design, like the part that touches the rim is like a cone....... it's no no for stock rims....i've seen a G37 19" rim shred off the rotor.......... such an ugly picture to see... need the flat lugs for stockers

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

The picture that you posted earlier looks to be a cone seat, this part number is for a shank style. Is he sure about that part #, I'm confused now

if you decide to use all these cones shaped lugs on the stockers, you will be in trouble...... since pictures say a thousand words...i'll show you the effect of cones shaped lugs on the stock G37 rims......

I'll be back

nogoodname · 01-25-2009, 03:18 PM

I know they are not the same lugs, but those are cone shaped....gives you the idea.....

most aftermarket wheels need the cone shaped ones...so dont mix things up by accident

semtex · 01-25-2009, 04:32 PM

But the stock lugs are cone shaped. Look at the pics I posted of the stock lugs. It's a cone at the tip.

EDIT: That was meant for nogoodname007

nogoodname · 01-25-2009, 05:10 PM

^^ not entirely true, look at where the arrow is pointing...the stockers need that washer to hold it in place...talking about Z's and G's......not Muranos or Rogues

semtex · 01-25-2009, 06:52 PM

^^ Right, I'm aware of that. In fact, it's why I've been saying that the regular wheel locks that supposedly fit all Nissans won't work for the 370 wheels. So my wheel guy points me to these shank-type wheel locks that do have the washer, and I think cool, we're all set. I just need to order a set of these. At which point Minicobra points out that if you look at the stock lug, it still has the cone seat at the tip, while the McGard lock that my wheel guy pointed me to does not. So it's like these things are a hybrid between conical and shank! So I guess what it boils down to is this. The washer is necessary -- that much is obvious. But what about the cone tip? Is it even relevant? When I went back to my wheel guy and pointed out to him that the stock lugs have a cone tip and the McGard lock he pointed me does not, he said it should still work. In other words, he doesn't think the cone tip really matters. Do you agree with him?

Here's a pic of the McGard locks he recommended. You can see that it has the washers, but they're not conical tips.

nogoodname · 01-25-2009, 07:05 PM

anyone have a pic of the stock rims without a lug in it...... i really dont know if it has the cone and the shank combo.....even though I changed my rims several times....lol

G in ny · 01-25-2009, 07:06 PM

Are u guys seriously having a argument on stock lug locks? Smh

semtex · 01-25-2009, 07:09 PM

You know what? I think my wheel guy might be right about the tip not being relevant. I just noticed something in the pic comparing the Murano lug to the 370 lug. Look closely at the tip of the Murano lug on the left. See all the wear marks? So the tip is obviously making actual contact with the rim. Now look at the tip of the 370 lug. It's clean - there are no wear marks at all, which tells me that it's not actually touching the rim, and all the contact is at the washer.

Bottom line - I've got a set of the shank-style McGards on order. I should have them by Wednesday, and I'll let everyone know if they work or not. I'll be the guinea-pig on this one. ;-) If it does in fact require a tapered tip, then when I try to put the McGards on, they just won't go in all the way. If they go in all the way and I can torque them down smoothly and properly, then we're good to go.

Minicobra1 · 01-26-2009, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Bottom line - I've got a set of the shank-style McGards on order. I should have them by Wednesday, and I'll let everyone know if they work or not. I'll be the guinea-pig on this one. ;-) If it does in fact require a tapered tip, then when I try to put the McGards on, they just won't go in all the way. If they go in all the way and I can torque them down smoothly and properly, then we're good to go.

Thanks for being the Guinea-Pig :-) Let us know how it works out .

I may pull off one of the lugs tomorrow and look at the rim, if the area is flat in the lug hole, then we should be ok. Maybe the conical portion at the tip is just to help guide it into the hole. Man, that just sounds nasty lol

Braden

Minicobra1 · 01-26-2009, 03:34 AM

Ok, somewhat un-related questions, but then it does refer to the lugs.

I'm probably going to keep the 19" Rays on there for awhile, if I do change them out, it will be one of the last mods. I will end up doing coil overs, intake, exhaust first. Has anyone ever used or considered going with a 5mm or 10mm spacer to get the wheels more flush with the fenderwells? Nothing too drastic, just a small amount. If I do this, will the stock lugs handle a small increase in spacing. Is this just a dumb idea? Thanks!

Braden

semtex · 01-26-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Ok, somewhat un-related questions, but then it does refer to the lugs.

I'm probably going to keep the 19" Rays on there for awhile, if I do change them out, it will be one of the last mods. I will end up doing coil overs, intake, exhaust first. Has anyone ever used or considered going with a 5mm or 10mm spacer to get the wheels more flush with the fenderwells? Nothing too drastic, just a small amount. If I do this, will the stock lugs handle a small increase in spacing. Is this just a dumb idea? Thanks!

Braden

I've given this idea some thought, but I haven't searched for part numbers yet. How about you be the guinea-pig for the spacers, seeing how I'm being the gp for the locks?

Oh btw, the lug hole area IS flat. So has long as the hole doesn't taper in (i.e., get narrower), then it shouldn't matter whether the tip is flat vs. conical. But I'll know for sure soon enough!

nogoodname · 01-25-2009, 07:18 PM

^^ jeezz....this is making me go crazy.......lol

wait til you order some aftermarket rims and you got the sports package....you'll find a 6th bolt on the rotors....lol

01-25-2009, 08:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Guys, I talked to my wheel and tire guy. Had him take a look at the lugs that come with the 19" Rays. He says that the part number we need (for McGards) is 21153. Here's a link, and you can click on the photo. It looks right to me. Wheel Locks and Centercap Locks - Shank Style - McGard: Innovative Security Products __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-25-2009, 04:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	But the stock lugs are cone shaped. Look at the pics I posted of the stock lugs. It's a cone at the tip. EDIT: That was meant for nogoodname007 __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-25-2009, 07:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	You know what? I think my wheel guy might be right about the tip not being relevant. I just noticed something in the pic comparing the Murano lug to the 370 lug. Look closely at the tip of the Murano lug on the left. See all the wear marks? So the tip is obviously making actual contact with the rim. Now look at the tip of the 370 lug. It's clean - there are no wear marks at all, which tells me that it's not actually touching the rim, and all the contact is at the washer. Bottom line - I've got a set of the shank-style McGards on order. I should have them by Wednesday, and I'll let everyone know if they work or not. I'll be the guinea-pig on this one. ;-) If it does in fact require a tapered tip, then when I try to put the McGards on, they just won't go in all the way. If they go in all the way and I can torque them down smoothly and properly, then we're good to go. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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01-25-2009, 03:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	I know they are not the same lugs, but those are cone shaped....gives you the idea..... most aftermarket wheels need the cone shaped ones...so dont mix things up by accident

01-25-2009, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	^^ not entirely true, look at where the arrow is pointing...the stockers need that washer to hold it in place...talking about Z's and G's......not Muranos or Rogues

01-25-2009, 07:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	anyone have a pic of the stock rims without a lug in it...... i really dont know if it has the cone and the shank combo.....even though I changed my rims several times....lol

01-25-2009, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
G in ny Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 396 Drives: 2006 g35 coupe Rep Power: 228	Are u guys seriously having a argument on stock lug locks? Smh

01-26-2009, 03:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
Minicobra1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County, CA. Posts: 1,205 Drives: 370Z Tour, Spt, 6mt Rep Power: 645	Ok, somewhat un-related questions, but then it does refer to the lugs. I'm probably going to keep the 19" Rays on there for awhile, if I do change them out, it will be one of the last mods. I will end up doing coil overs, intake, exhaust first. Has anyone ever used or considered going with a 5mm or 10mm spacer to get the wheels more flush with the fenderwells? Nothing too drastic, just a small amount. If I do this, will the stock lugs handle a small increase in spacing. Is this just a dumb idea? Thanks! Braden

01-25-2009, 07:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	^^ jeezz....this is making me go crazy.......lol wait til you order some aftermarket rims and you got the sports package....you'll find a 6th bolt on the rotors....lol