Tire Shine

370Zsteve · 03-14-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

thats total bs dude

total...

Nope. It's true. If I've seen it once, I've seen it a hundred times.

Auston · 03-14-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Nope. It's true. If I've seen it once, I've seen it a hundred times.

Which brand? Is there a trick to avoid?

After putting Eagle One tire dressing on this afternoon and letting it dry for an hour I took a 15 minute
drive. After the drive I checked the fenders around the tires and found there was some residue from the
tire dressing slung onto my paint (front and rear fenders). I wiped the tire dressing residue off the
painted areas, but the question is would it have stained the paint if I missed it? The stuff looked like
chewing tobacco

NXTAZEE · 03-14-2010, 01:15 AM

First thing we need to understand is, tires continually omit UV protection from with in. So blocking this is destructive to the tire causing premature damage. There are basically two types of tire dressings, silicon base and water base. Silicon base dressings block this action, water base dressing don't. So water base dressings are what we are looking for. I use a product called "Optimum Tire Shine" it's water base and gives the tire a new tire look. Not dull but not real wet either. Doesn't sling off like silicon dressing either. This is not an over the counter product, so it has to be ordered. I order it from eshine.com here in Canada, in the states you can find it at autogeek.com. There are others as well, this is just the one that I like.

Jeffblue · 03-14-2010, 01:26 AM

Maybe the manual should have said "dont apply it to the treads of the tires?'

chuckd05 · 03-14-2010, 12:58 PM

Black Magic Ti, Def the best imo

gel is a touch better than the spray but spray is easier.

NXTAZEE · 03-14-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

Black Magic Ti, Def the best imo

gel is a touch better than the spray but spray is easier.

Another silicon base dressing which will damage your tires.

6spd · 03-14-2010, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Nope. It's true. If I've seen it once, I've seen it a hundred times.

Until I can see it for myself, I have to call bs. Ive never seen this problem before.

6spd · 03-14-2010, 01:57 PM

Just did a little google search and it seems like only the shittiest quality shines *may* damage tires. I suppose if the tire is used for many years, say 5-6, rather than the average 2-3 years, tire shine *might* have enough time to do damage. In my first hand experience, Ive yet to see any car tire damaged by a tire shine product. But.. this is just in MY experience, others may differ.

chuckd05 · 03-14-2010, 02:02 PM

I have been using that product on my tires for about 7 years now, and my tires have always worked just fine for me, never chewed a hole in my sidewall or even had a blowout for no reason.

I highly doubt they would sell a product that damages your tires... seems kind of assanine imo

more OCD than anything else id say, ill take my chances and have nice looking sidewalls with the black magic Ti

6spd · 03-14-2010, 02:07 PM

I say, when damage occurs, a combination of factors probably exist together, such as a careless owner, older tires, silicon based shine, alignment problems, and poorly inflated tires. Being able to conclusively say that the tire shine caused the damage is nearly impossible. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

I agree with chuck, ill take my chances.

NXTAZEE · 03-14-2010, 02:22 PM

With my detailing business I actually see a fair bit of premature fading and cracking due to solvent/silicon base tire dressings. If the dressings are used regularly then it tends to hide the damage. If the car is garaged it makes a difference for sure. I agree, Tires that are replaced every couple of years won't show as much damage. I feel if I'm going to use a tire dressing I may as well use one that is good for the tire.

SoCal 370Z · 03-14-2010, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

With my detailing business I actually see a fair bit of premature fading and cracking due to solvent/silicon base tire dressings. If the dressings are used regularly then it tends to hide the damage. If the car is garaged it makes a difference for sure. I agree, Tires that are replaced every couple of years won't show as much damage. I feel if I'm going to use a tire dressing I may as well use one that is good for the tire.

Another issue is that owners rarely clean off the old dressing when washing their vehicle and then apply a fresh coat of tire shine versus simply layering good onto contaminated (bad).

6spd · 03-14-2010, 02:38 PM

Yeah, both good points^^

It seems like the idea has just been blown out of proportion, really.

NXTAZEE · 03-14-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Another issue is that owners rarely clean off the old dressing when washing their vehicle and then apply a fresh coat of tire shine versus simply layering good onto contaminated (bad).

If people are going to use that junk then yes they should wash the old dressing off before applying a new coat, thats if it hasn't flung off all over their car first. Sorry I couldn't resist

.

6spd · 03-14-2010, 02:43 PM

03-14-2010, 01:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
NXTAZEE Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 530 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 17	First thing we need to understand is, tires continually omit UV protection from with in. So blocking this is destructive to the tire causing premature damage. There are basically two types of tire dressings, silicon base and water base. Silicon base dressings block this action, water base dressing don't. So water base dressings are what we are looking for. I use a product called "Optimum Tire Shine" it's water base and gives the tire a new tire look. Not dull but not real wet either. Doesn't sling off like silicon dressing either. This is not an over the counter product, so it has to be ordered. I order it from eshine.com here in Canada, in the states you can find it at autogeek.com. There are others as well, this is just the one that I like. __________________ 2010 Carbon Silver 370Z 7AT charcoal int. sports package \| Clear Bra \| Invidia Gemini CBE \| CF B-Pillars \| CF Fangs \| CF Z emblems \| Swift Springs \| 20mm & 25mm Spacers \| SPC Camber Arms \| Brushed Aluminum shift knob

03-14-2010, 12:58 PM	#20 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Black Magic Ti, Def the best imo gel is a touch better than the spray but spray is easier. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

03-14-2010, 01:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Just did a little google search and it seems like only the shittiest quality shines may damage tires. I suppose if the tire is used for many years, say 5-6, rather than the average 2-3 years, tire shine might have enough time to do damage. In my first hand experience, Ive yet to see any car tire damaged by a tire shine product. But.. this is just in MY experience, others may differ. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-14-2010, 02:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I have been using that product on my tires for about 7 years now, and my tires have always worked just fine for me, never chewed a hole in my sidewall or even had a blowout for no reason. I highly doubt they would sell a product that damages your tires... seems kind of assanine imo more OCD than anything else id say, ill take my chances and have nice looking sidewalls with the black magic Ti __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

03-14-2010, 02:07 PM	#25 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I say, when damage occurs, a combination of factors probably exist together, such as a careless owner, older tires, silicon based shine, alignment problems, and poorly inflated tires. Being able to conclusively say that the tire shine caused the damage is nearly impossible. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. I agree with chuck, ill take my chances. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-14-2010, 01:26 AM	#19 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	Maybe the manual should have said "dont apply it to the treads of the tires?'

03-14-2010, 02:22 PM	#26 (permalink)
NXTAZEE Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 530 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 17	With my detailing business I actually see a fair bit of premature fading and cracking due to solvent/silicon base tire dressings. If the dressings are used regularly then it tends to hide the damage. If the car is garaged it makes a difference for sure. I agree, Tires that are replaced every couple of years won't show as much damage. I feel if I'm going to use a tire dressing I may as well use one that is good for the tire. __________________ 2010 Carbon Silver 370Z 7AT charcoal int. sports package \| Clear Bra \| Invidia Gemini CBE \| CF B-Pillars \| CF Fangs \| CF Z emblems \| Swift Springs \| 20mm & 25mm Spacers \| SPC Camber Arms \| Brushed Aluminum shift knob

03-14-2010, 02:38 PM	#28 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Yeah, both good points^^ It seems like the idea has just been blown out of proportion, really. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-14-2010, 02:43 PM	#30 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	__________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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