Summer tires in the winter

370zproject · 10-28-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Post whore

nope just bumping so pple dont repost threads XD

LakeShow · 10-28-2011, 12:59 AM

Damn now I have to buy some winter wheels, probably stock 18's will do with some snow tires or something. Long Island can be a pain in the A. Also when those pot holes start to pop up all over don't want my 19's in them.

370zproject · 10-28-2011, 01:00 AM

yep im gonna probly get fired i cant afford a second set XD

JerWA · 10-28-2011, 02:29 AM

Still rocking the bald stock fronts, with 285/35 R19 DWS rears.

Much better than stock, drivable at least in the snow. Made it up the big hill last year after putting these on, but didn't feel comfortable trying the downhill side (where it spun before hehe). For normal driving I'm fairly happy. Their wet traction isn't what I'd hoped it would be, but they break loose so predictably that it's almost more fun sliding it around than it would be if they just hooked up anyways.

Probably going to put some 255/35 R19 DWS up front and keep the stock wheels for winter driving and do some big Vossens or something for summer. Mostly driving the TBSS now to avoid miles on the Z's front tires which are beyond their lifespan for sure. I think the 255/35 was the closest match I could find.

PS: The never snows in Seattle thing was me being mad because that's what I was told, and it has snowed 5 of the 6 years since I was told that lol. This year they say is going to be another bad one, so make that 6 of the last 7. Already down to 34 degrees at nights, so all it's going to take is some water added to the mix.

ChrisSlicks · 10-28-2011, 07:38 AM

255/35 would be way off in diameter from the 285/35 based on the manufacturer information (almost 1" diff). 245/40 would be a much closer match.

370zproject · 10-29-2011, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Get some winter tires with some other rims. A lot of members like last years have bought the 18" OEM used and put Winter tires on them.

how much are the tires ?

anyone know how falken 452's do in the snow..... ? they do greatt in rain

ChrisSlicks · 10-29-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

anyone know how falken 452's do in the snow..... ? they do greatt in rain

Haven't driven them but based on the tread design I would say pretty poorly. Snow traction comes from lots of biting edges which requires small more square tread blocks.

m4a1mustang · 10-29-2011, 12:36 PM

Rain traction is all about evacuating water from underneath the tire. Chris is right, with snow traction, it's all about biting edges. If you look at snow tires they have almost an off-road look to them, and the tread blocks have tons of jagged sipes designed to grab snow. They also have a compound that won't harden up when extremely cold, like all summer tires and some all seasons.

The 452s aren't going to do well in snow at all.

kenchan · 10-29-2011, 01:09 PM

falken 452's are garbage in the cold (sub 35F) even in the rain. i speak from experience on a wheelset i bought locally for my honda fit years ago. comparing that to even the low-end bridgestone Fusion tires for tuner cars, Fusion tires were night/day improvement in the same condition.

452's will NOT work on a RWD car on a snow day or any cold day for that matter.

370zproject · 10-30-2011, 01:50 AM

452's work great in the summer

JerWA · 10-30-2011, 02:17 AM

Got my fronts today. The size difference is right on the outside edge of recommended, but so far so good. It took the rears a solid 200 miles for the shine to wear off and for them to stop feeling like traction was a thing of the past so I'll give the fronts at least that much time before commenting on how they behave.

They do look a bit small in the wheel well due to the lost height. And I know some have said they look too busy and clunky, but I kinda like the look. I'll post pics eventually, as that will require I wash the car. :P

I already know it's not going to be good in the snow, it just has to be enough to get me home if I get caught out in it. I still won't be taking it out to intentionally get in the snow hehe.

255/35R19 front, 285/35R19 rear, DWS all around.

370zproject · 10-30-2011, 11:01 AM

dumb question can u mix your rims so that you only have to buy 2 lol (i would never do it who wants 2 diff rim types )

m4a1mustang · 10-30-2011, 11:33 AM

What do you mean mix your rims?

tjlazer · 11-03-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JerWA

Got my fronts today. The size difference is right on the outside edge of recommended, but so far so good. It took the rears a solid 200 miles for the shine to wear off and for them to stop feeling like traction was a thing of the past so I'll give the fronts at least that much time before commenting on how they behave.

They do look a bit small in the wheel well due to the lost height. And I know some have said they look too busy and clunky, but I kinda like the look. I'll post pics eventually, as that will require I wash the car. :P

I already know it's not going to be good in the snow, it just has to be enough to get me home if I get caught out in it. I still won't be taking it out to intentionally get in the snow hehe.

255/35R19 front, 285/35R19 rear, DWS all around.

Let me know how they do, I am thinking of getting these for my Z too. My tires are about shot. I am running the stock Nismo setup of 245 40 19 and 285 35 18.

370zproject · 11-03-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

What do you mean mix your rims?

like have 18's for the rear for snow and 19s stock summer tires XD would look ghey tho

10-28-2011, 12:59 AM	#62 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Damn now I have to buy some winter wheels, probably stock 18's will do with some snow tires or something. Long Island can be a pain in the A. Also when those pot holes start to pop up all over don't want my 19's in them. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

10-28-2011, 01:00 AM	#63 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 53	yep im gonna probly get fired i cant afford a second set XD __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

10-28-2011, 02:29 AM	#64 (permalink)
JerWA Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 53 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	Still rocking the bald stock fronts, with 285/35 R19 DWS rears. Much better than stock, drivable at least in the snow. Made it up the big hill last year after putting these on, but didn't feel comfortable trying the downhill side (where it spun before hehe). For normal driving I'm fairly happy. Their wet traction isn't what I'd hoped it would be, but they break loose so predictably that it's almost more fun sliding it around than it would be if they just hooked up anyways. Probably going to put some 255/35 R19 DWS up front and keep the stock wheels for winter driving and do some big Vossens or something for summer. Mostly driving the TBSS now to avoid miles on the Z's front tires which are beyond their lifespan for sure. I think the 255/35 was the closest match I could find. PS: The never snows in Seattle thing was me being mad because that's what I was told, and it has snowed 5 of the 6 years since I was told that lol. This year they say is going to be another bad one, so make that 6 of the last 7. Already down to 34 degrees at nights, so all it's going to take is some water added to the mix. __________________ 2009 370Z Base/Sport A7 — Black — [ Stillen G3 CAI • ARK GRIP • NISMO S-Tune Body Kit • +Tune +Nav +Sub +Tint • DWS 255/35R19 Front, 285/35R19 Rear]

10-28-2011, 07:38 AM	#65 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	255/35 would be way off in diameter from the 285/35 based on the manufacturer information (almost 1" diff). 245/40 would be a much closer match. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

10-29-2011, 12:36 PM	#68 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Rain traction is all about evacuating water from underneath the tire. Chris is right, with snow traction, it's all about biting edges. If you look at snow tires they have almost an off-road look to them, and the tread blocks have tons of jagged sipes designed to grab snow. They also have a compound that won't harden up when extremely cold, like all summer tires and some all seasons. The 452s aren't going to do well in snow at all. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-29-2011, 01:09 PM	#69 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	falken 452's are garbage in the cold (sub 35F) even in the rain. i speak from experience on a wheelset i bought locally for my honda fit years ago. comparing that to even the low-end bridgestone Fusion tires for tuner cars, Fusion tires were night/day improvement in the same condition. 452's will NOT work on a RWD car on a snow day or any cold day for that matter.

10-30-2011, 01:50 AM	#70 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 53	452's work great in the summer __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

10-30-2011, 02:17 AM	#71 (permalink)
JerWA Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 53 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	Got my fronts today. The size difference is right on the outside edge of recommended, but so far so good. It took the rears a solid 200 miles for the shine to wear off and for them to stop feeling like traction was a thing of the past so I'll give the fronts at least that much time before commenting on how they behave. They do look a bit small in the wheel well due to the lost height. And I know some have said they look too busy and clunky, but I kinda like the look. I'll post pics eventually, as that will require I wash the car. :P I already know it's not going to be good in the snow, it just has to be enough to get me home if I get caught out in it. I still won't be taking it out to intentionally get in the snow hehe. 255/35R19 front, 285/35R19 rear, DWS all around. __________________ 2009 370Z Base/Sport A7 — Black — [ Stillen G3 CAI • ARK GRIP • NISMO S-Tune Body Kit • +Tune +Nav +Sub +Tint • DWS 255/35R19 Front, 285/35R19 Rear]

10-30-2011, 11:01 AM	#72 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 53	dumb question can u mix your rims so that you only have to buy 2 lol (i would never do it who wants 2 diff rim types ) __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

10-30-2011, 11:33 AM	#73 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	What do you mean mix your rims? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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