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JoeyD 01-16-2009 05:53 PM

What do you think about the Weds SA70
 
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I'm thinking 18X9 Front 18X10 Rear. These wheels are among the lightest available in these sizes. I'm not looking for anything bigger than an 18 and I don't need a 12 inch width (tires are waaaayyy too expensive above about a 285). As far as performance goes these wheels are great.

Weds SA70

dlmartin81 01-16-2009 10:08 PM

they're ok.

blue660r01 01-16-2009 10:09 PM

nah

M.Bonanni 01-17-2009 12:04 AM

We just started selling WEDS this month. They have always intrigued me as an alternative to the overpopulated Volks and Works. I like the SA67Rs though :D

http://www.weds.co.jp/images/product...67r_car_01.jpg

By the way, here is a shot I took today of the DDM 370Z on 18s and they are too small in my opinion. They would look better when the car is lowered, but I still think they will look a bit small. Thats just my opinion though.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...elfitment5.jpg

RCZ 01-17-2009 02:12 AM

I can't say I like any weds wheels..

TerribleONE 01-17-2009 04:13 AM

not bad.. but not great either

chubbs 01-17-2009 05:05 AM

Hi Joey - don't get 18's, they're too small for the car. 19's are minimum size, imo.

I'd like to know what 20's ride like, because if the ride is OK I think 20's look good in the Z's wheel arches.

JoeyD 01-17-2009 09:01 AM

It's not about looks, it's about form following function. 18's perform better than 19's and 19's better than 20's. It's all about keeping as much of the weight of the wheel as close to the center of rotation as possible. As well as lowering the unsprung weight of the car. Also, In order to run a bigger rim, like a 20, and maintain your stock overall wheel height (tire OD) you would have to lower the aspect ratio of the tire, which means less sidewall. Less sidewall translates to a worse ride and in many cases and unpredictable loss of traction at high lateral loads. Personally an 18' is the best compromise of style, weight, performance, tire availability, and tire cost. Tire cost will be very important as with most cars I drive they won't make it much past 10K miles. I won't even consider a wheel if it's not under 19.5 LBS. That weight narrows the field considerably.

A good example is my old IS300, before I turboed it. I had HEAVY 19's on it (around 31lbs + tires). The 19's over the stock 18's raised my 0-60 by almost 2 full seconds. Later on down the line I replaced them with light weight Axis Reverbs. I ran Reverbs on my Mazdaspeed 6 too. They were a great rim but I just can't see buying the same wheel for three different cars.

And just a little footnote. I ran Axis Millano 19's on my 350Z and I was pleased with them. But knowing what I know now I would have gone with an 18 if I had it to do over again.

JoeyD 01-17-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 20774)
We just started selling WEDS this month. They have always intrigued me as an alternative to the overpopulated Volks and Works. I like the SA67Rs though :D

http://www.weds.co.jp/images/product...67r_car_01.jpg

By the way, here is a shot I took today of the DDM 370Z on 18s and they are too small in my opinion. They would look better when the car is lowered, but I still think they will look a bit small. Thats just my opinion though.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...elfitment5.jpg

Personally I like the way the 18's look because, as I said, I'm a performance first kind of guy. That Z looks like it's headed for some track time. A 1'-1.5" drop wouldn't hurt though. Another thing worth noting: a rim with any kind of lip will appear much smaller than it actually is. If you choose a rim with spokes that go all the way to the tire bead they will look bigger.

I do like the SA67r. Wheelweights.net doesn't have there weight listed though. Do you know it? In a 18X9 F 18X10 Rear?

M.Bonanni 01-18-2009 10:30 AM

Good outlook! I guess I thought you were talking about street driving only. 18s are almost necessary for the track because there just aren't that many good R-Compound tires that come in 19". There are some, but I like a variety :).

I don't have the wheel weights for the SA67R, but I will try and find out Monday.

JoeyD 01-18-2009 06:28 PM

Sweet. Thanks. I'm really interested in these wheels. Wouldn't hurt to check on fittment for a 370Z at the same time. Although my Z may never see any real track time the weight difference will be fully appreciated on a daily basis. I'm not afraid of being flamed for wheels that look small. All things being equal I'll outrun a Z with 19's or 20's.

M.Bonanni 01-18-2009 06:33 PM

This is true. I will let you know tomorrow.

SnakeBitten 01-19-2009 08:31 AM

For the track those rims on the silver 370z are perfect DD. For the street though you must take others sensitivities into account. It would behoove the civilized Z driver to don the appropriate size rims when milling about amoungst societies sophisticated hoods, burbs and cities. 19's or 20's would be most appropriate wheel attire for such occasions:ughdance:

JoeyD 01-19-2009 08:59 AM

I'll make the arguement that in societys sophisticated (over populated) areas the roads are poorly maintained and a much better environment for 18's with more tire to absorb pot holes and the like.

SnakeBitten 01-19-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 21623)
I'll make the arguement that in societys sophisticated (over populated) areas the roads are poorly maintained and a much better environment for 18's with more tire to absorb pot holes and the like.

Egads. You drive on 18's. How uncouth. On track, away from sensitive or impressionable young minds 18's are sublime. But amoung the civilized image is everything good sir and anything less than 19's is unethical, uncouth and uncivilized. Change has come to America and me thinks you need sensitivity training:eekdance:

chubbs 01-19-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten (Post 21757)
Egads. You drive on 18's. How uncouth. On track, away from sensitive or impressionable young minds 18's are sublime. But amoung the civilized image is everything good sir and anything less than 19's is unethical, uncouth and uncivilized. Change has come to America and me thinks you need sensitivity training:eekdance:

Horses for courses, old bean - horses for courses. :tiphat:

My Z will never touch a track, so larger wheels (like yours) are perfect for the poseur (must say I like your sig pic).

ps - I must say that my 19" LMGT4's handle at least as well as the stock 18" forged Rays and they are just as light + give as good a ride over rough ground. In addition, they give me a little more traction in the damp. However Joey, this is not to undermine anything you've been claimimg for 18's in general - you're making very good points.

SnakeBitten 01-19-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 21793)
Horses for courses, old bean - horses for courses. :tiphat:

My Z will never touch a track, so larger wheels (like yours) are perfect for the poseur (must say I like your sig pic).

ps - I must say that my 19" LMGT4's handle at least as well as the stock 18" forged Rays and they are just as light + give as good a ride over rough ground. In addition, they give me a little more traction in the damp. However Joey, this is not to undermine anything you've been claimimg for 18's in general - you're making very good points.

Cherio old chap:tiphat:

I agree with Joey perspective as well just giving him some ribbing:D I jsut happen to see both sides of the equation and find that the perfect compromise that will not get anyone knickers in a bunch:icon17: is to have 18's for track use and larger sizes for the car when it hits the streets for everyday usage unless of course the Z will only be used for tracking.

JoeyD 01-19-2009 03:50 PM

I want to change my name from JoeyD to TheNonConformist. Anybody make that happen? 18's all the way.

Still looking for weights on the SA 67s too.

M.Bonanni 01-19-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 21813)
Still looking for weights on the SA 67s too.

Working on it. I have called a few times, but they have been in a meeting for what seems like all day. They are supposed to give me a call back.

SnakeBitten 01-20-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 21813)
I want to change my name from JoeyD to TheNonConformist. Anybody make that happen? 18's all the way.

Still looking for weights on the SA 67s too.

Are you being serious????You are concerned about weight and ultimate performance but you buy the Touring and Auto tranny and, judging from your post about 245 width tires out back not being enough for 332hp, you got the Touring package over the Sport Package???? Maybe thats all the dealer had on the lot and you chose what you got instead of waiting but that means that TheNonConformist doesnt really fit:tup:

[Uncle Ben]TheNonConformist title carries with it great responsibility[/Uncle Ben] j/k

JoeyD 01-20-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten (Post 22045)
Are you being serious????You are concerned about weight and ultimate performance but you buy the Touring and Auto tranny and, judging from your post about 245 width tires out back not being enough for 332hp, you got the Touring package over the Sport Package???? Maybe thats all the dealer had on the lot and you chose what you got instead of waiting but that means that TheNonConformist doesnt really fit:tup:

[Uncle Ben]TheNonConformist title carries with it great responsibility[/Uncle Ben] j/k

Where do I start? Touring over sport would imply that you can't have both...you can. Touring and auto where chosen because it was the only thing available and my last car was about to die (meaning I had to buy something new ASAP). Your logic is flawed; something akin to saying I'm not going on a diet because I'm fat.

I'll stick with JoeyD for now...maybe you should change yours to "TheDevilsAdvocate"?

M.Bonanni 01-20-2009 01:56 PM

Still waiting on weights. I finally got WEDS USA to get back to me and all they told me was that they needed to check with WEDS Japan. Good news is they should have a test set of 370Z fitment wheels in on their next container from Japan.

SnakeBitten 01-20-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 22124)
Where do I start? Touring over sport would imply that you can't have both...you can. Touring and auto where chosen because it was the only thing available and my last car was about to die (meaning I had to buy something new ASAP). Your logic is flawed; something akin to saying I'm not going on a diet because I'm fat.

I'll stick with JoeyD for now...maybe you should change yours to "TheDevilsAdvocate"?

Im well aware you can have both Touring and Sport but since you made a thread about 245 width tires being too skinny for 332hp it seemed to imply you got base + Touring package minus Sports thus my reasoning.

Also if you noticed I surmised as much that you took what the dealer had instead of waiting. Totally understand that but I couldnt help notice the irony between your previous posts about performance being number 1 to you, wanting a name change to TheNonConformist, and then chosing the fattening Touring over the performance Sport package:icon17: Relax man you are taking this way too serious didnt mean anything more than just a little ribbing hence the smileys...Ill leave you alone now:hello:

BTW I like "TheDevilsAdvocate" :)

SnakeBitten 01-20-2009 04:31 PM

BTW did some searches to help you out on the weights but came up with nothing as Im sure you did as well but did find some pretty light 18" Gram Lights. Supposed to be there lightest rims.....Not sure if you would like em though...Figured it could be an alternative to the Weds if you dont end up getting them:tiphat: Would look great with the color Z in your avatar. I remember the 17x8 ones were 17lbs but not sure on the weights of the sizes you want listed below.

pricey though. $756 per 18x10 and $738 per 18x9
http://garagespec.com/catalog/maximu...5f2cef8b8c1bce

http://www.neweraparts.com/DesktopMo...jpg&PORTALID=0

M.Bonanni 01-20-2009 06:45 PM

FINALLY got your wheel weights for you on the WEDS Sport SA67R. They said they may vary slightly depending on the finish you choose, but here you go...

18" x 9" = 8.73kg (~19.2 lbs.)
18" x 10" = 9.09kb (~20 lbs.)

JoeyD 01-20-2009 07:15 PM

Thanks! That's not to shaby. Now how about fitment?

M.Bonanni 01-20-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 22233)
Thanks! That's not to shaby. Now how about fitment?

I guess WEDS Japan has been playing with a 370Z and the first sets of 370Z fitments should be here on the next container from them in about 5-7 weeks.

JoeyD 01-21-2009 08:05 AM

I'm liking the Wed's but I'm also kind of leaning toward a 6 spoke wheel. Like the Gram Lights, SSR's, or maybe some Volks. My guess is Wed's will be considerably cheaper though.

Any idea on pricing yet?

JoeyD 01-21-2009 07:37 PM

Snake I hate to say it but after some serious reading and searching. I think I'm leaning toward Volk RE30 19's. Pretty darn close to my weight limit and 19's do look a bit better.

If weight were a non-issue...volk GTS 19s are my favorite wheel.

SnakeBitten 01-22-2009 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 22561)
Snake I hate to say it but after some serious reading and searching. I think I'm leaning toward Volk RE30 19's. Pretty darn close to my weight limit and 19's do look a bit better.

If weight were a non-issue...volk GTS 19s are my favorite wheel.

No worries brotha....RE30s are sweet and nowadays bigger forged rims dont necessarily have to have a weight penalty so we can have our cake and eat it too, sometimes. GTS are noice..Post pics asap when ever you get em:tup:

JoeyD 01-22-2009 08:25 AM

Yeah I will. Still waiting to hear on pricing for the Wed's. If I don't go with the Wed's I may have to sell a kidney or something.

M.Bonanni 01-22-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 22790)
Still waiting to hear on pricing for the Wed's.

So am I :(.

JoeyD 01-22-2009 10:43 AM

No rush. I'm thinking it'll be a month or so before I can get this kidney out.

M.Bonanni 01-22-2009 11:02 AM

lol

JoeyD 02-03-2009 10:26 AM

Any word from Weds?

M.Bonanni 02-03-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 27138)
Any word from Weds?

No :mad:

It is very frustrating I probably could have sold a few sets already. Last I checked was last week. I will try again today.

JoeyD 02-03-2009 10:46 AM

No worries. I just posted my kidney up on e-bay no replies yet. Consider a trade? :rofl2:

I've abandoned the idea of 18's after seeing pics and photoshops, and seeing mine every day. I've narrowed my choices down to:

Weds SA 67 (if available in 19)
Volk TE37 G2, RE30, GTS, GTU
Work VS XX

Still looking around

M.Bonanni 02-03-2009 10:48 AM

The SA67 comes in 19", but nowhere near the right offsets for the 370Z. I vote Work VS-XX :)


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