Wheels should fit, but they don't?

Curlyfred_Z · 03-23-2022, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

I agree. **** your shop. Contact your local Work wheels distributor and ask yourself

Additionally if “TX disc” is not available, get the T-disc and have it milled for the additional clearance, since that is how Work makes TX themselves

I would not rely on a shop that is not specifically familiar with the Z platform

T-disc is still listed on Work Wheels USA:
https://www.workwheelsusa.com/wp-con...ZING-CHART.pdf

I am skeptical that TX can be discontinued when the base for it is still around

Last option, you can sell the front pair and have someone build you a new front set. A place like Sensei6 can do it, they have parts to make whatever wheel you want

I have emailed Work jpn about this yesterday and wether they can still provide a TX disc.

Also, they are the local work wheel distributors. That's why it gave me so much confidence that whatever they would suggest, it would fit.

OptionZero · 03-23-2022, 01:22 PM

Don't forget to ask for a T-disc if they can't do a TX disc for some reason.

Curlyfred_Z · 03-23-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67

That's not how it works. The R-Disk isn't going to clear without spacers no matter what offset. The shop should have ordered T-Disk for the fronts.

It's difficult to determine from that video what size spacer would provide enough clearance. Looks like at least 15mm. That would put the effective offset around +2 which is very aggressive. Personally, I would ditch those wheels and start over.

So, I found this guy that runs 19x9.5 +1 in the front.
https://www.fitmentindustries.com/wh...cing-coilovers

He's on the same coilovers I'm about to get next month.
shouldn't it technically work for me too then? Or am I missing something completely.

DaveZ03 · 03-23-2022, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z

So, I found this guy that runs 19x9.5 +1 in the front.
https://www.fitmentindustries.com/wh...cing-coilovers

He's on the same coilovers I'm about to get next month.
shouldn't it technically work for me too then? Or am I missing something completely.

You have Akebono calipers right? The above link is just referencing a base Z with what appears to be base brakes. I don't know what the clearances are between those base brakes and wheels, but they won't be the same for a Z with Akebonos.

Curlyfred_Z · 03-23-2022, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveZ03

You have Akebono calipers right? The above link is just referencing a base Z with what appears to be base brakes. I don't know what the clearances are between those base brakes and wheels, but they won't be the same for a Z with Akebonos.

Correct, but I think with about 20mm +- of spacer, the face should just be infront of the caliper, if that makes sense.
So my meister front specs are +24mm offset, so a 20mm spacer would make that +4 effective mm offset. Correct?

DaveZ03 · 03-23-2022, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z

Correct, but I think with about 20mm +- of spacer, the face should just be infront of the caliper, if that makes sense.
So my meister front specs are +24mm offset, so a 20mm spacer would make that +4 effective mm offset. Correct?

I get where you're going, but one thing to take note of, make sure that you have a means of which to set camber. As someone who has their products, I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend SPL if you are in the market for FUCA's (Front Upper Control Arms - which you will need in order to set camber).

OptionZero · 03-23-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z

Correct, but I think with about 20mm +- of spacer, the face should just be infront of the caliper, if that makes sense.
So my meister front specs are +24mm offset, so a 20mm spacer would make that +4 effective mm offset. Correct?

Are we still talking about brake clearance, or are you just interested in wheel fitment?

Your math is correct, a 20mm spacer on a +24 wheel will make it +4

A 9.5 wheel, +4 offset is going to stick out ALOT more than your rears, and will require around -2.5 to -3 camber to clear the fender, depending on height and tire size. For reference, a +4 front will stick out 36mm more than stock but the rears will only be 11mm more than stock (comparison to stock Nismo wheels)

There is zero camber adjustment in the front, so you absolutely need front upper control arms.

here's your homework:
Wheel Fitment 101: START HERE

Read that thread

Figure out whether you're going to get a replacement face and what the offset will be (Work can do this for you, i assume) OR if you're going to slap on a bigass spacer (don't do this, it's dumb, and probably need the bolt-on kind or extended studs)

Curlyfred_Z · 03-23-2022, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

Are we still talking about brake clearance, or are you just interested in wheel fitment?

Your math is correct, a 20mm spacer on a +24 wheel will make it +4

A 9.5 wheel, +4 offset is going to stick out ALOT more than your rears, and will require around -2.5 to -3 camber to clear the fender, depending on height and tire size. For reference, a +4 front will stick out 36mm more than stock but the rears will only be 11mm more than stock (comparison to stock Nismo wheels)

There is zero camber adjustment in the front, so you absolutely need front upper control arms.

here's your homework:
Wheel Fitment 101: START HERE

Read that thread

Figure out whether you're going to get a replacement face and what the offset will be (Work can do this for you, i assume) OR if you're going to slap on a bigass spacer (don't do this, it's dumb, and probably need the bolt-on kind or extended studs)

If Work can still provide the TX disc but somehow don't list them in their catalog, the shop said they're going to take back the fronts and new ones can be made.

IF that's not possible, the shop also offered to switch the meisters out for a set of VS XX's in either silver or all back setup
both 19x9.5 +23 Front and 19x11.5 +13 rear.

They also offered a full refund or to supply spacers in order for them to work.
The spacer option would also require me to buy the camber arms and while I really am not a fan of the spacers, if that makes it work, it's still an option i'm considering.

Going to read through the thread you shared in a bit, thankyou!

OptionZero · 03-23-2022, 03:42 PM

Further clarification:
It appears "TX disc" might be an internal Work Wheels thing to tell their factory the customer has Akebonos and to add the additional machine to a "T disc". That may explain why it doesn't show up in catalogs. It's just a note to add to the order

If you want the VSXXs, thats up to you. Those sizes are fine, but it's a different design so you have to decide.

k67p67 · 03-23-2022, 04:49 PM

Not sure if the boxes OZ is referring to are labeled as "TX" disk. I'm not even sure whether my fronts are T-disk or TX-disk. This is what the box labels look like. They clear my Akebonos by a few millimeters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z

So, I found this guy that runs 19x9.5 +1 in the front.
https://www.fitmentindustries.com/wh...cing-coilovers

He's on the same coilovers I'm about to get next month.
shouldn't it technically work for me too then? Or am I missing something completely.

As mentioned above, base brake calipers and Akebono calipers are not comparable.

OptionZero · 03-23-2022, 05:40 PM

yeah, however Work wants to label the box, as long as they know your order is going to be for a Z34 with akebono and to manufacture accordingly, thats what matters

Curlyfred_Z · 03-28-2022, 12:26 PM

Nearly a week has passed now and still no response from Work.
Is it normal for them to take this long to reply?

OptionZero · 03-28-2022, 12:55 PM

If you dont get a response u can try a US based retailer to see if they can contact Work USA and get thru that way

eighty8 Motorsport is run by a former member here and sells Works and other wheels

Curlyfred_Z · 04-12-2022, 10:05 AM

Finally heard back from Work.
T discs would just clear the BBK...
Now do i get new fronts or swap out the wheels for the vsxx's I was offerend..

Hard desicions..

k67p67 · 04-12-2022, 04:52 PM

Your choice if you want to skip the wait and just go with the VS-XX. If you do order new front S1 3p, make sure the shop orders T-disk. Not sure if you have tires already. Comparable sizes for T-disk are 19x9.5 +17 or 19x10.0 +24.

03-23-2022, 01:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Don't forget to ask for a T-disc if they can't do a TX disc for some reason. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

03-23-2022, 03:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Further clarification: It appears "TX disc" might be an internal Work Wheels thing to tell their factory the customer has Akebonos and to add the additional machine to a "T disc". That may explain why it doesn't show up in catalogs. It's just a note to add to the order If you want the VSXXs, thats up to you. Those sizes are fine, but it's a different design so you have to decide. k67p67 likes this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

03-23-2022, 05:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	yeah, however Work wants to label the box, as long as they know your order is going to be for a Z34 with akebono and to manufacture accordingly, thats what matters __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

04-12-2022, 04:52 PM	#30 (permalink)
k67p67 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 303 Drives: 2017 Nismo Tech 6MT Rep Power: 3937	Your choice if you want to skip the wait and just go with the VS-XX. If you do order new front S1 3p, make sure the shop orders T-disk. Not sure if you have tires already. Comparable sizes for T-disk are 19x9.5 +17 or 19x10.0 +24. __________________ 2017 370Z Nismo Tech 6MT PART OUT IN PROGRESS Work \| Motordyne \| Powertrix \| Swift \| Michelin \| Takeda \| Hotchkis \| RJM \| Voodoo13 \| SPL \| SPC \| Z1 Motorsports \| ZSpeed \| Morimoto \| Craft Square

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Curlyfred_Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: België Posts: 15 Drives: 2016 M 370z Rep Power: 6	Nearly a week has passed now and still no response from Work. Is it normal for them to take this long to reply?

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Curlyfred_Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: België Posts: 15 Drives: 2016 M 370z Rep Power: 6	Finally heard back from Work. T discs would just clear the BBK... Now do i get new fronts or swap out the wheels for the vsxx's I was offerend.. Hard desicions..