new rear tires slip then grab slip then grab on hard turns

tycomps · 10-26-2019, 09:27 AM

2014 370z coupe with sport package 6 speed stock. Replaced all 4 bald pirelli stock tires with continental extreme contact dws06 yesterday. on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

Quicksilvers · 10-26-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tycomps

2014 370z coupe with sport package 6 speed stock. Replaced all 4 bald pirelli stock tires with continental extreme contact dws06 yesterday. on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

Everyone I know that had Pirelli tires they were bald or below 4/32” tread depth funny. Congratulations on your new tires those Continental’s are nice tires and have good grip on the street in turns I know people how got these tires and were happy with them. If you are a corner carver like me I understand. Best thing to consider would be a differential honestly that will help lots with traction and avoiding one wheel peel. Also begin to address your suspension as well. Depends how do you use your Z do you ever see any track days? How do you like the Continental’s compared to the Pirelli’s when they were new?

Quicksilvers · 10-26-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tycomps

2014 370z coupe with sport package 6 speed stock. Replaced all 4 bald pirelli stock tires with continental extreme contact dws06 yesterday. on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

I recently purchased new Yokohama Advan A052’s all around they have superior dry traction and can work good in wet conditions as well. I looked at the Continental’s but choose to go with the Yokohama’s as I had really good luck with them in the past.

SouthArk370Z · 10-26-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tycomps

... on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

Sounds to me like traction control is kicking in. Disable TC (you have to disable yaw sensor) and see if you like it.

Rusty · 10-27-2019, 12:01 AM

The stock VLSD is a funny beast. It's got some strange manners.

370zBoyz · 10-27-2019, 12:14 AM

Maybe they are covered in that oily substance they put on new rubber when they store it maintenance so until it wears off they might slip

I know motorcycles tires have that oily residue on them when new I guess it might be the same case with certain new car tires

Rusty · 10-27-2019, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zBoyz

Maybe they are covered in that oily substance they put on new rubber when they store it maintenance so until it wears off they might slip

I know motorcycles tires have that oily residue on them when new I guess it might be the same case with certain new car tires

It's called mold release. It's to keep the tire from sticking in the mold when the tires are made. It's not for storage.

tycomps · 10-27-2019, 04:35 AM

word is they are covered with a glazing when new, takes 50-100 miles to wear it off then they stick like glue. as far as comparison to the pirellis- softer ride, good response, not that noisy. will keep you posted, thanks.

nis350 · 10-28-2019, 11:10 PM

some new tires required break-in....

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Originally Posted by tycomps

2014 370z coupe with sport package 6 speed stock. Replaced all 4 bald pirelli stock tires with continental extreme contact dws06 yesterday. on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

tycomps · 11-14-2019, 10:57 AM

believe I've put over 100 miles on the tires and they're still doing it. I bought the car used with 19k on it so I don't know how the stock pirelli's were new. car has 24k on it now. thing is it did not do it with the bald pirelli's on it, why would it do it with new sticky tires on it? don't think it's the differential because it just started doing it when the new tires were put on, never did it before. as far as traction control it does appear to be kicking in to correct wheel spin, again if anything the bald tires would have spun but they didn't. any ideas?

JARblue · 11-14-2019, 11:23 AM

Didya try to powah ovah?

mults · 11-14-2019, 11:40 AM

You didn't mention the temperature when you were doing this. If the Contis are like my Hankooks, they don't like temps in the 30s and 40s...

tycomps · 11-17-2019, 10:09 AM

it was in the 70's

JARblue · 11-17-2019, 04:26 PM

VDC on or off?

MZ DAIZY · 11-17-2019, 04:45 PM

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believe I've put over 100 miles on the tires and they're still doing it. I bought the car used with 19k on it so I don't know how the stock pirelli's were new. car has 24k on it now. thing is it did not do it with the bald pirelli's on it, why would it do it with new sticky tires on it? don't think it's the differential because it just started doing it when the new tires were put on, never did it before. as far as traction control it does appear to be kicking in to correct wheel spin, again if anything the bald tires would have spun but they didn't. any ideas?

Being born and raised in northern NJ, I’m guessing it’s the potholes you’re trying to dodge.

But seriously, it sounds like you have the traction control on. Shut it off, go to an empty parking lot and light them puppies up a couple of times.

That’ll burn any “impurities” off and you’ll have a blast at the same time.

PS: be thankful your not on an 800Lb Harley. That’ll make you “pucker” for sure.

10-26-2019, 09:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
tycomps Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 9 Drives: 2013 370z Rep Power: 11	new rear tires slip then grab slip then grab on hard turns 2014 370z coupe with sport package 6 speed stock. Replaced all 4 bald pirelli stock tires with continental extreme contact dws06 yesterday. on full throttle right and left turns the rear new tires slip then grab slip then grab during turn and stop when car straightens out. didn't do it when the bald tires were on. any ideas are greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!

10-27-2019, 12:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,185 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	The stock VLSD is a funny beast. It's got some strange manners. jchammond and wideglideleon like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-27-2019, 04:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
tycomps Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 9 Drives: 2013 370z Rep Power: 11	update word is they are covered with a glazing when new, takes 50-100 miles to wear it off then they stick like glue. as far as comparison to the pirellis- softer ride, good response, not that noisy. will keep you posted, thanks. OptionZero, wideglideleon and Quicksilvers like this.

11-14-2019, 10:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
tycomps Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 9 Drives: 2013 370z Rep Power: 11	update believe I've put over 100 miles on the tires and they're still doing it. I bought the car used with 19k on it so I don't know how the stock pirelli's were new. car has 24k on it now. thing is it did not do it with the bald pirelli's on it, why would it do it with new sticky tires on it? don't think it's the differential because it just started doing it when the new tires were put on, never did it before. as far as traction control it does appear to be kicking in to correct wheel spin, again if anything the bald tires would have spun but they didn't. any ideas?

11-14-2019, 11:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Didya try to powah ovah? __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

10-27-2019, 12:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
370zBoyz Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Driver seat Posts: 207 Drives: Nismo Rep Power: 7214	Maybe they are covered in that oily substance they put on new rubber when they store it maintenance so until it wears off they might slip I know motorcycles tires have that oily residue on them when new I guess it might be the same case with certain new car tires

11-14-2019, 11:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
mults A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 69 Posts: 1,830 Drives: 2010 (40th) #706 Rep Power: 16886	You didn't mention the temperature when you were doing this. If the Contis are like my Hankooks, they don't like temps in the 30s and 40s... JARblue and Ventruck like this. __________________ mults 40th Anniversary 'Z', 312.06HP/260.58TQ (Dynosty EcuTek Tune) Build Date/Number: 1/27/2010 #706 Berk HFC + CBE, R2C CAI, Clear Bra, Cleveland Z Club

11-17-2019, 10:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
tycomps Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 9 Drives: 2013 370z Rep Power: 11	in the 70's it was in the 70's

11-17-2019, 04:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	VDC on or off? __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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