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Sway 09-15-2017 06:43 PM

Hubcentric rings
 
So I got volk TE37 SL's in 19" and before I didn't have any vibration or wobble before with the stock wheels. But now I do under decel between 35 and 20mph. Just got them all balanced, and they said the fronts are fine (feels like it's coming from the front) but the backs were counter balanced at had too much weight. Well, the wobble feeling/sound is still there so I'm guessing I need hub centric rings... but I don't know what size I hear the inner for 370z's are 66.1? Is that correct? But idk what outer size I need...

Hotrodz 09-15-2017 06:48 PM

What are your off sets?

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Sway 09-15-2017 07:02 PM

+22 front and +12 rear

jchammond 09-15-2017 08:08 PM

ID of rings should be 66.1mm, OD depends on the wheel specs.
You may have to measure them w/calipers; as the hubcentric is the truest centering of wheels.

gomer_110 09-15-2017 09:02 PM

If it's only under decel then it has nothing to due with the wheels. Wheel imbalance is felt under all conditions above certain speeds.

Additionally, TE37's are lugcentric (the tapered lug seats set wheel position). Using hubcentric rings with them will just help installation.

Hotrodz 09-15-2017 09:21 PM

Your off sets seem fine, how old are your tires and what they?

Sway 09-15-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3693674)
If it's only under decel then it has nothing to due with the wheels. Wheel imbalance is felt under all conditions above certain speeds.

Additionally, TE37's are lugcentric (the tapered lug seats set wheel position). Using hubcentric rings with them will just help installation.

What could be only on decel then? It really only happens with moderate to heavy braking 35-20mph ish... and it's not the brakes because it doesn't do it with the stock wheels... if I'm slower on the decel it's not as noticable.

jchammond 09-16-2017 01:48 AM

Braking could be a slightly warped rotor; many factors....try knocking out of gear & coasting between those speeds....but if while braking; I'd be suspicious of a warped rotor.

jchammond 09-16-2017 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 3693681)
What could be only on decel then? It really only happens with moderate to heavy braking 35-20mph ish... and it's not the brakes because it doesn't do it with the stock wheels... if I'm slower on the decel it's not as noticable.

Throwing the braking factor in completely changes the color of the horse.

Sway 09-16-2017 12:18 PM

So I normally brake in neutral up to a stop light, that's where I notice it most. I know it's not rotors because those haven't changed since I changed wheels. BUT today I was testing driving around at 34 mph not braking or accelerating and it's there. I believe my GT Haus exhaust covers it up which is why I notice mostly on decel when braking, often in neutral. But it's definitely there maintaining 34mph. I'm really hoping it's not a bent rim as I bought these volks used. But discount said they balanced perfectly fine.

40 to 332 09-16-2017 12:55 PM

Perhaps try removing and re-installing the wheels, making sure to tighten the lug nuts in a star pattern to the correct torque. IIRC correctly the correct torque is 80 ft/lbs. The installer may have over-torqued the wheels. While the wheels are off, do a quick visual inspection of the brake pads and calipers to ensure there are no obvious signs of sticking or jamming and that the top and bottom lugs of the pads are adequately lubricated. If you elect to go with hub rings, the OD should be available from Volk. Check their website or just goggle "bore size of" whatever Volk wheels you have. As stated above, the hub rings are not absolutely necessary, but they do help center the wheel during installation.

40 to 332 09-16-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 3693775)
So I normally brake in neutral up to a stop light, that's where I notice it most. I know it's not rotors because those haven't changed since I changed wheels. BUT today I was testing driving around at 34 mph not braking or accelerating and it's there. I believe my GT Haus exhaust covers it up which is why I notice mostly on decel when braking, often in neutral. But it's definitely there maintaining 34mph. I'm really hoping it's not a bent rim as I bought these volks used. But discount said they balanced perfectly fine.

I'm not sure how the exhaust would "cover up" a wobble or vibration. Is it a noise that you're hearing from the wheels that's concerning you ... or a wobble that you feel through your foot when you depress the brake pedal?

Sway 09-16-2017 01:37 PM

You can slightly feel it through the pedal, but it's mostly audible. Loud radio or mid to high rpm acceleration the exhaust noise covers it up. Doesn't translate through the steering wheel. I don't think it has anything to do with the brakes as it literally popped up after I put the wheels on, brakes were fine no wobble or unbalanced feeling, to it being there the same day. It's not bad, but it's more than enough to annoy me.

I installed the wheels myself originally, used 82 ft lbs, in a star pattern... yesterday discount did their thing balanced the wheels and put them back on, and it's still there. So unfortunately I don't think that's the problem either :(


Edit: I ordered a set of 73 outer 66.1 inner hubcentric rings just in case. I'm willing to lose $20 just to make sure...

Sway 09-16-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3693680)
Your off sets seem fine, how old are your tires and what they?

Potenza pole positions. Don't know the age as they came with the wheels, they've got some good tread left though... imo opinion on the offsets, the fronts poke a little to much for me, but I don't think there's anything I can do about that.

40 to 332 09-16-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 3693792)
You can slightly feel it through the pedal, but it's mostly audible. Loud radio or mid to high rpm acceleration the exhaust noise covers it up. Doesn't translate through the steering wheel. I don't think it has anything to do with the brakes as it literally popped up after I put the wheels on, brakes were fine no wobble or unbalanced feeling, to it being there the same day. It's not bad, but it's more than enough to annoy me.

I installed the wheels myself originally, used 82 ft lbs, in a star pattern... yesterday discount did their thing balanced the wheels and put them back on, and it's still there. So unfortunately I don't think that's the problem either :(


Edit: I ordered a set of 73 outer 66.1 inner hubcentric rings just in case. I'm willing to lose $20 just to make sure...

In terms of the wobble, what type of lug nuts are you using? The right choice will vary depending on the type of wheel you have. The ones that come with the stock sport wheels are not suited to most after-market wheels. As far as the noise, it could be that your tires are nearing the end of their useful life. I know that when my PSSs were down to 5/32" on the rears, I started to hear a "whump-whump-whump" noise that disappeared when I switched over to new PS4s. Had a similar problem on another vehicle when the tires became worn. How much tread is left on your tires?


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