Are the PS4S recommended for Daily Driving ?

kingjah23 · 07-16-2017, 08:39 PM

Unfortunately when I bought my new Z the tires were worn out so the time to replaced them is now. I see everyone on the forum is talking about the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Tires but as someone who doesn't do any track racing are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver?

Rusty · 07-16-2017, 09:15 PM

I DD mine.

cooltoy · 07-16-2017, 10:58 PM

Why wouldn't they be?

Chan Chee Hoe · 07-17-2017, 07:34 AM

If you can afford,why not.?

cloudofevil · 07-17-2017, 08:18 AM

These are street tires. It's not until you get into the "extreme performance " aka autocross tires, that you start to sacrifice streetability. These are about the best tires you can get for the street.

Now, there are tires that are more economical and perform nearly as well if you don't need the absolute best tire. Look at Bridgestone and Continental for high quality alternatives.

Yellowwolf · 07-17-2017, 08:37 AM

Well like the op I'm gonna need tires soon, 50/50 hwy and twistys, I'm not hard on the car in the corners and a tire that lasts awhile would be good!

Nixin · 07-17-2017, 10:24 AM

Go read the reviews on tire rack.com for the PS4S. Very positive, if not phenomenal.

abm89 · 07-17-2017, 11:39 AM

They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues.

SS_Firehawk · 07-17-2017, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues.

DW's were replaced by the Extreme Contact Sports. The ECS's improved and competitive in every objective measurement.

The PS4S is a great tire. If that's what you're wanting, its great.

danegrey · 07-17-2017, 03:17 PM

have had the PS4S since May, great tire all around, they did great at the autocross this past weekend, were a bit more sticky then the last set of PS I had... They did well on the trip too, since I went to Dayton to autocross with my son

SgtGoldy · 07-17-2017, 03:53 PM

I'm rocking em. I dont track my car but with how easily the back wheels break free I absolutely adore them. Then the few times I go into the canyons or mountains they prove to be reliable and predictable through every single turn. I started a thread on them here, check it out. Lots of people have put in their opinion. None bad.

mikeb · 07-17-2017, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kingjah23

...are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver?

Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment futher

MaysEffect · 07-17-2017, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeb

Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment further

Out of the latest new tires on the market - 245/40r19 x 4

Mich PS4 - 242 x 4 - 971 - ??? - Similar compound to Hankook RS3 (larger sipes/ thicker tread)
Pirelli PZ4 - 218 x 4 - 875 - BEST comfort - mild/low life (personally certifiable)
Conti sport - 208 x 4 - 835 - ???
Potenza S-04 - 204 x 4 - 816 - low life (oem - 12k mild abuse)

Notable extremes -
Dunlop ZII - 285 x 4 - 1033 - long life +23k (personally certifiable-track and canyon abuse - 3 sets on 2 different cars)
Potenza RE-11 - 249 x 4 - 999 - decent life
Potenza RE-71r - 225 x 4 - 903 - reported low life -15k

Based purely on one size - the PS4 is the most expensive out of the summer max tires. I'm not entirely sure they will last any longer or post significant lap times over any other tire other than the S-04 on this list.

If the PSS's is any indication (which they aren't really, completely different compounds) The cost is not worth it versus an extreme or a cheaper Max summer tire like the PZ4's or ContiSports.

Continental has proven their tires can withstand track torture. PZ4 imo feels excellent for street driving, but ultimately too soft if you plan on abusing them. I'm personally hesitant on wasting money on the extra cost of the Michelins because i was never "wowed" by the PSS or PS2's.

mikeb · 07-19-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect

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Continental has proven their tires can withstand track torture. PZ4 imo feels excellent for street driving, but ultimately too soft if you plan on abusing them. I'm personally hesitant on wasting money on the extra cost of the Michelins because i was never "wowed" by the PSS or PS2's.

good info MaysEffect; thanks

osbornsm · 07-19-2017, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeb

good info MaysEffect; thanks

Doesn't make it correct info...

What's too soft for daily driving? I thought they're 300 treadwear

07-16-2017, 08:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
kingjah23 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: ---- Posts: 8 Drives: ---- Rep Power: 9	Are the PS4S recommended for Daily Driving ? Unfortunately when I bought my new Z the tires were worn out so the time to replaced them is now. I see everyone on the forum is talking about the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Tires but as someone who doesn't do any track racing are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver?

07-16-2017, 09:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,178 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	I DD mine. physics and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,971 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243722	Why wouldn't they be? __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

07-17-2017, 08:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
cloudofevil Base Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: TN Posts: 32 Drives: 2015 370Z sport Rep Power: 8	These are street tires. It's not until you get into the "extreme performance " aka autocross tires, that you start to sacrifice streetability. These are about the best tires you can get for the street. Now, there are tires that are more economical and perform nearly as well if you don't need the absolute best tire. Look at Bridgestone and Continental for high quality alternatives. physics and ZontheRocks like this.

07-17-2017, 08:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Yellowwolf Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maggie Valley, NC Posts: 216 Drives: 2014 370z, BC sport Rep Power: 8	Well like the op I'm gonna need tires soon, 50/50 hwy and twistys, I'm not hard on the car in the corners and a tire that lasts awhile would be good! __________________ Life is full of changes, adapt and overcome

07-17-2017, 07:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chan Chee Hoe Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 861 Drives: 370z,Yellow,7sp A Rep Power: 17	If you can afford,why not.?

07-17-2017, 10:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	Go read the reviews on tire rack.com for the PS4S. Very positive, if not phenomenal. physics, wideglideleon and ZontheRocks like this.

07-17-2017, 11:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues. wideglideleon likes this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

07-17-2017, 03:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	have had the PS4S since May, great tire all around, they did great at the autocross this past weekend, were a bit more sticky then the last set of PS I had... They did well on the trip too, since I went to Dayton to autocross with my son __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

07-17-2017, 03:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	I'm rocking em. I dont track my car but with how easily the back wheels break free I absolutely adore them. Then the few times I go into the canyons or mountains they prove to be reliable and predictable through every single turn. I started a thread on them here, check it out. Lots of people have put in their opinion. None bad. __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

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