Wheel too outside HELP!
 

Hi Everyone

Got new Stance SC5 and swift springs on my Z.

Wheels specs: Front 20x9 +20mm with Continental DWS 245/35r20
Rear 20x10.5 +27mm with Continental DWS 285/30r20

I really don't like the front wheel that is way to much out for my taste ( 10/15mm too out). Rear is absolutly perfect. No spacer anywhere.

Car as not being aligned yet, I have to do that first but there is snow here..... but if aligned my car and it dosen't work what can I do? Any tips?

Tks

fronts must be the incorrect offset....guess buy new rims or live with it.

Sounds like you should have done some more research before you purchased wheels with an offset that doesn't suit you :ugh:

do you have adjustable camber arms ?

Definitely get an alignment done.

Did the installer have load on the suspensions before tightening everything up? Not sure if this is an importance with the 370z but I've made this a habit when doing suspension work for any car.

complete and utter failure to learn what the hell you're doing before doing it

thats a conservative front fitment that everyone uses. Hell, you should be more aggressive front and rear. Way more aggressive in back.

throw your wheels away
throw your suspension away

get better wheels
get SPL FUCA
get an alignment
prosper

With the specs listed you shouldn't have any issues. Check if they installed the rears upfront? Either that or you received the wrong wheels.

How much did you lower?

Those fronts will probably tuck or close to it once an alignment is done. Your front is definitely more aggressive than the rear. Either get different offset rims to suit your tastes (with appropriate costs attached) or once the alignment is done measure the difference where the rear wheels are more inset and get spacers to move them out so they are the same as the fronts. The latter would be my choice in this case.

You can only decrease offset with the help of spacers. Unfortunately, you wouldn't be able to increase the offset without having to reorder new wheels

How Is that front offset too much poke for you?? Mine is 9.5+15 and it works perfect....

guess u didnt read any of my posts. if u cant return those wheels, lower ur ride and get spacers for the rear. u needed to go with ET32 or higher number if 9" width at stock ride. whoever sold u dat set didnt know wtf he's talking about. too agressive front for stock height, too weak rear for lowered ride.

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like i mentioned here.. we already answered all newb questions.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post3626768

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/ocs...nders_1821.png

Fine print: don't do this

btw, alignment wont do crap for ur setup unless u have aftermarket a-arms to give it more camber. even so it will not look right. lower ur ride and get spacers for da rear.

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Well...tks for all your replies. ..I will not put a grinder in that for sure but I will try to put load on my spring first before tightening everything up or have +32 in front. Tks Kenchan for your tips...should have read your post :(

so u have swifts already installed? they will settle a little bit after driving around. easiest solution for u would be to get rear spacers to match the aggressiveness of the front after u drive it around a few hundred miles.

some folks like da poked look, u might get use to it too..

ET32 for front is if ur ride is stock. the shorter sidewalls on ur 20's pronounce the wheel gap too..

ive found budget wheels's offsets are pretty inaccurate.. ur wheel might say ET20, it could be as low as ET10-12.. :ugh: especially if ure saying the rear looks perfect lowered at ET27.. :ugh2: ET27 would be very conservative for a lowered ride with 10.5".

oh my god don't put a ****'n 19x9 +32 in the front of a Z

keep the wheels sell your Z

but a TSX or something

ure iggylist quality. GL to u

Yes I have swifts already installed but I have not drive my car yet. There is too.much rock and snow outside at the moment so I will get her out only april 1st. I will drive it and get it aligned but is it a good solution like Josh said to get the load on the suspensions before tightening everything up? How im I supposed to tight thoses bolts with the wheel in place ?

Tks for your tips kenchan Really appreciated.

No I don't have some yet. Im stock camber and freshly dropped on swifts.

IINM, you should actually wait to get it aligned until after you drive it around a bit and the suspension has a chance to settle.

Thats what Im gonna do. Tks It's hard to wait another 15days :shakes head:

Let's see pics to see the wheels...

yah, dont give ur hopes up yet. new springs take a little driving to set in. usually when i swap springs i drive it for about 2 weeks (few hundred miles) before going in for an alignment unless it's so off making it uncomfortable to drive. for those occasions i take my car in twice.

when u do suspension installs it is always a good idea to load the arms before you tighten the fasteners. what i do is load up the arm using a hydraulic jack under the knuckle (front)/spring carrier cup (rear), and raise it enough the suspension has preload. then tighten all fasteners to spec.

but it usually doesnt make much of a difference as far as ride height after install unless you completely botched the install somehow.

take a pict and post.

Ok Tks Yeah I'm an aircraft mecanic so I don't know a lot about cars mecanics but I followed the maintenance manual for the torques of the Z... but I know much more about aircrafts.

I have read a lot before buying and about Dallaz blue 370z, want to do the same setup but instead of vossen cv3r use Stance sc5,

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...cs-only-4.html

same dimensions, 20x9 20x10.5, same offsets +20 front but got +27 in rear instead of +15 so wanna put a 10mm spacer, same drop but with swifts insteads of coilovers, 1 to 1.2in drop. Stock camber

Tell me if i'm wrong but I should have something like him? But I don't have driven the car yet and not aligned.

Tks Kenchan


Pictures incomming...

aircraft mechanic, cool.

dallaz's car is much lower dan ur swifts. he apparently runs coilovers so he can gain more neg camber making the wheel look more tucked inward.

u can achieve something similar if u get a-arms and dial in more neg camber up front or run coilovers instead. but post up a pict of ur ride so dat we can gauge wat we are dealing with here.

btw, the 10mm spacers for da rear.. if u plan on buying bolt-on type spacers be sure ur wheels have voids between the lug holes. ur factory studs will protrude past da spacers so ur wheels will have to have those voids.. otherwise da disc of the wheel will hit ur factory studs and make it uninstallable on ur car...well unless u cut the factory studs shorter.. :ugh:

if u dont have voids u can get the stud replacement type spacers.

Hi there

Now i see...comparing my pictures of my Z to his. Its muuch lower... :S I have done what you told me, reinstalled everything with a load on a spring, torque everything as per manual. It changes a little bit. Here the results.

Here some pics of my Z and on the picture I have a 5mm spacer on the rear. Can't put a 10mm with the factory studs but 5mm is perfect for my taste. If I can have this front a little bit inside the fender that will be great or put a 10mm on the rear...or A-arm? What do you think?

3rd picture is the kind of spacer I have on the car right now

Tks! :tiphat:

An A-arm is 300 minimum and it's inferior to the oem. SPL arms are the only superior and they are 800 bucks...
Spacer is like 80 bucks...

Also to run neg camber with your high offsets is odd to me since you are not in aggressive offsets.
Run a spacer in the rear to even it out.

That front looks like it has lots of -camber and is set in. I don't see anything remotely close to poke in the slightest. If anything I'd want to get proper A arms and pull some of that -camber out.

looks pretty good...

If that's "too much outside" then you have wheel fitment completely ****** up in your head

thats a super conservative fitment

and from everything you said its not even rubbing (which it shouldn't)

that fitment is all wrong, and its not because its "too far outside." its the opposite. sunk as hell, basically its good for nothing

even track guys are running more aggressive fitments with more tire and camber

street stance running even more aggressive and lower

what you have is just . . . vanilla placeholder till someone puts a better set up on it

+34 (+ or - 1mm) would have been even fitment for you.....not aggressive wheel you have; but you don't like any poke.
unsure if you can machine own backside of mounting face; may have to put 15mm spacer's out back to even up w/front.

Different Strokes for Different Folk's,,,but if your camber is close to the same (F/R) then your front-spacing will be 1" less than rear...car's are built that way.
example for 9/10.5 stagger (+32F/+25R=3.75/4.75" front spacing)(+25/+19=4/5" front spacing)(+19/+12=4.25/5.25" front spacing...etc....)
You are at [+20/+27=4.24/4.68" front spacing; rear's are sunk .56" or 14.22mm more than front.

sounds good. id get 10mm for da rear and you should be fine. if u can find a front splitter dat wiil lessen da poke look on da front but not needed. with a 5mm spacer u can usually get away without changing studs but i recommend u use steel lugs (Muteki)

TKS!!!!!!!! :) :tiphat:

I will check that out

That's exactly what I have as steel lugs. :) I will wait for the first drive in 2 weeks and I will came back with more pictures when the suspension will be settle and alignment done.

Tks for all your replies! :tiphat:

Little question, I don't know if it can be that....is it possible that my brake disc in front is thicker so my wheel poke out more than it should? For sure the drop on the car have an effect.

Dallaz Z is stock camber and 1.2 in drop so same as mine but I have not ride the car yet...I will let suspension settle a bit and put 10mm spacer on the rear and see what are the results.

I let you guys know! Tks

Yes, the rotors have a slightly different shape from the rear to the front. I'm having this issue as well as my wheels have a lip and my front wheels hit the caliper, rears are fine. Running 9.5 front 10.5 rear both +22 offset. Have 20mm spacers on front and am clearing the caliper but my wheels now poke. Just have to live with it or get new wheels like the other gents said. Good luck :driving: