Need some advice on the AG F542
 

Most of you guys know, aesthetics are kinda last on my list of upgrades for my car.Anyways, I fell upon this opportunity and for the first time in the history of ever, I'm buying an aesthetic piece.... F@ck, I already lied. I bought those Carbon Signal vented fenders... Wife didn't like them... Anyways So I'm in the process of ordering custom F542 wheels and wanted to get some opinions. There were 0 pictures to go off of outside of other wheels based off the same design. Please let me know if my offsets are wrong, or if anything looks off.. Thanks.So I'll break down what I have so far...

Based on Swift Springs drop, flush with the body running a full size tire, no stretch or extra thin tires. 265/35/19 or 275/35/19 and 305/30/19s are what I'm looking at.

Avant Garde F542's: F542 - Avant Garde Wheels - AG Form - Concave 3PC

Fronts: 19x10 ET +30
Rears: 19x11 ET +13

The barrel is stepped with a smoke mirror finish, same with the rear barrel
The center is concave and either technica titanium or black brushed nickel.
The center cap is smoke mirror finish
The hardware is magma red, matching the car.

I'm looking for opinions on the hardware and which finish to have the center (spokes) done in...

Below are examples of the finishes.

Technica Titanium:
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Black Brushed Nickel:
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Smoke mirror stepped lip with colored hardware and technica titanium center:
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Below is a wheel similar to what I'm ordering. Use the spoke design for reference:
F242 - Avant Garde Wheels - AG Form - Reverse Lip 3PC

I opted for the technica titanium as its lighter and will stand out better against the smoke mirror finish on the barrel.

The hardware will be painted last so I can see what different colors look like on the wheel before I pull the trigger.

subbed for pics. +13 rear should be aggressive as hell with 11's.

I just got t7r work's 9.5 + 25 F 10.5 + 22 rear.

How do your fronts fit with the +25? I based the measurements on Nismo wheels running 15mm spacers on Swifts. So they should sit the exact same in theory.

I'm just trying to make sure I'm good.

I ordered the wheels yesterday. They should be in next week. I can take pics of them for you and post here.

Evasive Motorsport is where I got them. I called them and they advised against the +12 fitment in the rear. I was torn between +12 and +22, but they cautioned me to go +22 since the car will see some HPDE days at the track.

That's why I am interested in your rear fitment.

Did you call Avant and get their 2 cents? Evasive was pretty helpful on the phone. I wouldn't order without confirming with the wheel manufacturer, but they are always going to be on the safe side.

Mine are +16mm from the Stock Nismo setup all around.

Yours are only 1mm difference from stock Nismos in the rear. You have PLENTY of room. You can run like a +8 on a 10.5 width wheel in the rear. Your front tires are spot on. I would call and double check if I were you.

Yes, I was working with an AG rep for a few days. He confirmed what I calculated. He said I can run a full 305/30/19 tire and not rub. Likewise the fronts with a 275/35/19 tire. I should be able to turn and have full suspension compression without rubbing.

https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Whee...et-Calculator#

A 10mm spacer might be in my future in the rear for sure. But from where I am at now with S-tune rims it should be a lot better. S-tunes are +47, +30 on 9inch and 10 inch I think.

Yours is gonna be flushtown from what I can see from the fitment thread. Can't wait for pics!

O and yeh, I did double check and they talked me out of +12's again on the rear. Maybe I should have been stronger..... I was weak my friend. Stay strong

Already shipped so I am locked in.

Nice choice! Repped

Behold! They're finally done and paid for

F542's
19x10+30
19×11+13
Smoke mirror barrels, center cap, and hardware
Technica Titanium face

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Now you have to hope the wife likes them.

I wanted to get an Amuse hood, but mine poopooed it.

She does. She's a bit unsure with the design and the Z, but she likes that the design and color are unique

Nice looking set of wheel's Firehawk!

When do you plan to have these installed? Would love to see pictures !

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About a month from now. I'm omw home soon.

Update. 3 piece wheels are heavy. If you want light weight wheels, stay mono block. Yes these barrels are spun and the face is forged, but the hardware, the coating, the sealant, it all adds weight. Fronts and rears weigh 30lbs. So these fat bastards weigh roughly 36lbs more than a stock set.

To help, I can run a lighter tire and recover maybe 10lbs. I also picked up Volks lugs which is another couple lbs (stock lugs weigh 3.3lbs). And finally to reclaim the last 25 lbs, running Z1 2 piece rotors front and rear can help. Granted it will only improve how well the oems will feel when I swap them on, but these are just ideas to offset these rolling anchors. Compared to a lot of oem wheels though, 30lbs is par, but we have gotten spoil with forged wheels. It doesn't seem that the width difference had an impact on weight.

So... tires two questions.. extreme performance or max performance tire? I'm debating on picking up the new Continental EctremeContact Sport as they are supposed to be better than the PSS and a good competitor to the new PS4. I'm kinda leaning to a max performance tire on these so I can use my OEM wheels as a track tire and put extreme tires on those. The next question is sizing options


265/35/19 - 305/30/19 (25lbs / 27lbs)

Square 285 or (27lbs ea)

275/35/19 - 325/30/19 (may have to use a 285 front depending on front availability) (27lbs / 31lbs)

Obviously the wider, the heavier, so it might magnify heftiness. Continental weigh about the same as the PSS and P4S, a 1lb difference + or - depending on size. Extreme tires weigh about a pound more on average (except RE-11's, they weigh 30 and 35lbs for the same sizes)

Stock tire weight =116lbs
Continental ECS= 105lbs for a 265/305 set up and
108lbs for the square 285
116lbs 275 /325 set up.
Stock wheel and tire weight: 200lbs
Continental ECS tire weight: 225lbs 265/305
228lbs square 285
236lbs for the 275/325

With the lugs and the 265/305 set up, it's roughly 6lbs more per wheel over stock.
So yeah, adding Z1 rotors would put me below or at the same weight as the stock wheels and tires combo. Now I'm rambling, maybe someone might find it useful.

why do you care about weight when you have a second set of wheels for track?

i mean is there something you're doing during your daily drive that requires 100% optimal wheel weight?

frankly, all the folks that trip over that are kinda funny. Track guys run track tires on track wheels need to worry about the lightest rotating mass. When they go home they slap on regular wheels or put their car on a trailer.

for the rest of us . . . get whatever balances looks and price and functionality?

Because it changes the dynamics of the car. I like how it drives now. I don't want to feel the extra rotating mass. It's not a deal breaker or I would have gotten rid of them. A lot of it was just going down the rabbit hole of thoughts and curiosity. So I just left it here for anyone else interested

put these puppies on!

Soon... Ordering the tires and tpms on the 31st. I'll have them Installed by the end of next week.

Just ordered square 285/35/19 Continental Extremecontact Sport tires this morning and new tpms sensors. Hopefully I can get them on this weekend.

How long did it take from the time you ordered until you received them? About 10-12 weeks?

For the wheels or tires?

The wheels I'm sure they can turn around in 4-6 weeks

Well, my car has been at the tire shop since Tuesday Morning. I fly out of town and return Monday morning. Not sure why it's taking them a week to get these on. He knew ahead of time when I was dropping the wheels off. He already had my tires. Apparently his machine was having issues with the width of the wheels so he went somewhere else to get them done. Well, I think they threw my **** in the corner and said whenever we get to it. So if it's not ******* mounted by Monday, I'm grabbing all my **** and taking it elsewhere. My car has been hostage to this ****.

no!

Just picked up the car today. The fro ts are still growing on me, but I love the rears. The tires are 285 square, so thing about the front wheels makes the tire look bigger than the rear. I haven't put Swift springs on, but a drop and getting some more shine on the rubber should help. It could be the shallow face and smaller stepped dish. Anyways see below. Jury is still out on the tires. They are sticky , but the sidewall is softer too, not as I.mediate to transition as the stock tires, but these have a lot more grip. I need air in the fro ts so, this isn't definitive.

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The 285's on the 10's,,,are an even fit...They're stretched a bit on the 11's-but if you like that look better; you can alway's put 255/40's up front & have the same stretched look & just 0.1" taller.....+ you'll have a spare set for the rear's.

Edited a pic that was supposed to be there. Shows the slight stretch of the rears. The stretch is mild, I prefer a bit less, but it's fine. I think if I did this again, I'd try 265/35 and 305/30, or do 325/30 and 275/35. These tires might run skinny.

Just seeing what it may look like with some low, hope you don't mind.

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You mind doing one with a small bit of wheel gap if possible?!? Just a tiny sneak peak for when I put Swift springs on

So the tires were set to 35psi, but the front tires looked a bit low still. So I bumped up the pressure to 40psi to see if it would make a noticeable difference. Surprisingly, I think these tires like a bit more pressure for daily driving. The steering response improved with minimal change to impact harshness. They're a lot quieter and the stickier than stocks. The tread looks great and will see how they wear with the tire pressure adjusted. I'll drive around a bit more and report in. The weight of the wheels haven't made a depreciable difference on the road. I'll check to see how the larger front tires hold up. They seem to match a 10" width wheel perfectly. The rears are stretched a bit, but I'd have to step up to at least a 325 to get a close match.

My front 285/35 invo's on 19x10's fit the same & steering response is noticeable better than previous 245's,,,I was concerned about them wanting to wander or follow bad places in the road; but actually perform better.
The rear 345/30's on 19x12's are heavy-but ride quality & handling is great!

285's on the front. Like a glooooooove! I'm having the lowering springs installed tomorrow :)

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Last pics from this morning before lowering. I also checked suspension clearance and found I had a good inch of space. I'll check fender liner clearance, and I'd there is plenty there too, it'd mean we could go larger up front. Now that the tires have a bit of shine, it helps balance out the wheel to tire ratio

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Very nice setup. Do you notice any rubbing with the front wheels at full lock or mild lock when driving (hard turns)? Does is it rub over hard bumps or uneven roads?

Also do you have a pic of the inner clearance for the rear wheels?

I don't hear rubbing, but I did notice part of the front fender liner that pokes out was rubbed, like maybe a 1/2"X1/4" length on both sides. Other than that, nothing. I don't have the inner clearance of the rear wheels, but I'm certain there's a couple inches available.

I can't say enough good things about the tires. It's just dramatically better in every category compared to RE050 and Yokohama Advan Sports. I'm still testing them.