Crazy Thought on Tires

nismo2evox · 09-17-2015, 02:49 PM

I was actually thinking the RE-11 would be much stickier and performance oriented than the OEM tires as they are "Extreme Performance" according to tire rack

I was thinking about slapping on these guys. (Dunlop Direzza DZ102's)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....o&autoModClar=

Seem to have decent reviews and wicked cheap, and provide great value for the money and should have enough stability to safely approach limits but with less overall grip than the OEM tires. The Dunlops are "Ultra High Performance" compared to "Max Performance" of the OEM tires

Tire Racks Rating System as an FYI

Extreme
Max
Ultra High Performance

Anyone try these Dunlops on their Z?

POS VETT · 09-17-2015, 03:53 PM

Chances are, they would still be too sticky for your purposes.

ScottOmatic · 09-18-2015, 12:08 AM

Saying more basic tires is dangerous is somewhat like saying a BRZ or Sport-Compact is dangerous.. With this mentality you are basically saying that you should put the biggest extreme summer tire on your VW Beetle that you can so you don't get "caught out" and sure, I can understand that philosophy.

If you get caught out doing something stupid or put into a situation where you need maximum mechanical grip and are going to be pushing a full lateral load, yeah the best tire you can buy (RE-71R) is going to save your ***. An example would be If you go over a crest and didn't see a tight bend was coming up and you are driving to fast for the road or conditions.

Most bad accidents though are going to be traffic accidents, and swerving to avoid uncoming traffic or having to slam on your brakes isn't going to make that large of a difference because in most of those quick-react situations you aren't pushing the tires envelope that far.

I know from owning an older Z and now a 370, is that if you try to get close to the limit on public roads, it is much more risky. If you want to feel the 370 get close to the edge of grip on an empty country road even with some hard slower bends with the stock tires, you are going to be murdering the speed limit every where and if you know the limits of your machine, you will be safer in a car that has skinnier and less grippy tires when you do find and go over that limit.

If you don't know how to find the limit of your car regardless of how much tread is on them, well then I do hope you have the grippiest tires you can find.

Also, as per the Chris Harris video, you could always add more power to decrease the effectiveness of your tires when on throttle!

sambar · 10-03-2015, 07:34 PM

Lol yeah reminds me of when I got my last car, it was a base 3 series with square setup, 17" wheels and stiff runflats. Add to that the fact that they were new tires (well new car), the rear was stepping out on every turn. Have to admit I did have some fun with it

.

Having said that, I wouldn't consider actually going out and buying a tire like that.

09-17-2015, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
nismo2evox Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 39 Drives: Evo X Rep Power: 13	I was actually thinking the RE-11 would be much stickier and performance oriented than the OEM tires as they are "Extreme Performance" according to tire rack I was thinking about slapping on these guys. (Dunlop Direzza DZ102's) http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....o&autoModClar= Seem to have decent reviews and wicked cheap, and provide great value for the money and should have enough stability to safely approach limits but with less overall grip than the OEM tires. The Dunlops are "Ultra High Performance" compared to "Max Performance" of the OEM tires Tire Racks Rating System as an FYI Extreme Max Ultra High Performance Anyone try these Dunlops on their Z? Last edited by nismo2evox; 09-17-2015 at 02:58 PM.

09-18-2015, 12:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
ScottOmatic Base Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 63 Drives: '88 Porsche 928 S4 Rep Power: 12	Saying more basic tires is dangerous is somewhat like saying a BRZ or Sport-Compact is dangerous.. With this mentality you are basically saying that you should put the biggest extreme summer tire on your VW Beetle that you can so you don't get "caught out" and sure, I can understand that philosophy. If you get caught out doing something stupid or put into a situation where you need maximum mechanical grip and are going to be pushing a full lateral load, yeah the best tire you can buy (RE-71R) is going to save your ***. An example would be If you go over a crest and didn't see a tight bend was coming up and you are driving to fast for the road or conditions. Most bad accidents though are going to be traffic accidents, and swerving to avoid uncoming traffic or having to slam on your brakes isn't going to make that large of a difference because in most of those quick-react situations you aren't pushing the tires envelope that far. I know from owning an older Z and now a 370, is that if you try to get close to the limit on public roads, it is much more risky. If you want to feel the 370 get close to the edge of grip on an empty country road even with some hard slower bends with the stock tires, you are going to be murdering the speed limit every where and if you know the limits of your machine, you will be safer in a car that has skinnier and less grippy tires when you do find and go over that limit. If you don't know how to find the limit of your car regardless of how much tread is on them, well then I do hope you have the grippiest tires you can find. Also, as per the Chris Harris video, you could always add more power to decrease the effectiveness of your tires when on throttle! nismo2evox likes this.

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09-17-2015, 03:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
POS VETT Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 612 Drives: Z34\|C4LT4\|C6Z06\|V25 Rep Power: 3366	Chances are, they would still be too sticky for your purposes.

10-03-2015, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
sambar Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sunnyvale Posts: 56 Drives: 370Z-2012-6MT Rep Power: 10	Lol yeah reminds me of when I got my last car, it was a base 3 series with square setup, 17" wheels and stiff runflats. Add to that the fact that they were new tires (well new car), the rear was stepping out on every turn. Have to admit I did have some fun with it . Having said that, I wouldn't consider actually going out and buying a tire like that.