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critical 08-09-2015 02:46 PM

Forgstar F14 Wheel Failure
 
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I know this is a popular wheel for 370z owners so thought I'd share this.


http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1439149319

Apparently failure wasn't due to a crash. Just normal driving. Car was a BMW. My friend who's a nano engineer speculated, "The wheel could have had a some congregated defects in the lattice structure of the alloy that caused an amplified stress crack that propagated over time. Then if introduced to a large stress, the material defects agglomerate even more leading to crack propagation and subsequent plastic deformation. Very interesting to know the result of forgestar's failure analysis."

imo be careful with your wheel selection. remember the oem 19" ray's are light forged, and safe.

madwi 08-09-2015 03:07 PM

Was not expecting to see 1/4 of the wheel ******.

lovemyvq 08-09-2015 03:11 PM

The crack is a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Forgestar. Although the transport process has altered it's consciousness, it irrevocably remains cast not forged. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis...I have no idea what I'm saying.

Trips 08-09-2015 03:24 PM

This issue has plagued Forgstars for years.

Doesn't happen often, But it does happen.

You get what you pay for I guess. :ugh2:

Thanks for the heads up post.

AdamRacer 08-09-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lovemyvq (Post 3280637)
Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis...I have no idea what I'm saying.

Lol..

I would think if this was a major problem we would see a lot more posts about forgestar failures.

AntiVenom 08-09-2015 03:54 PM

Like Trips said, they are cast wheels, it can happen. I certainly wouldnŽt be swayed away from purchasing Forgestars by this. IŽd say their failure rate must be pretty low actually given the popularity of the wheel and the fact that IŽve only seen a few of these types of failure (this one being the worst). However, I wouldnŽt put them on a track.

Thanks for posting, though. No matter what I like being informed.

JARblue 08-09-2015 04:04 PM

Yikes...

The OEM Rays Sport/Nismo wheels are the best wheels available considering they are super light and consistently available for cheap on the forum. Almost all aftermarket options are a downgrade in performance anyway. And that is especially true if you're not spending at least $3-6K.

NORAIN 08-10-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamRacer (Post 3280649)
Lol..

I would think if this was a major problem we would see a lot more posts about forgestar failures.

:iagree: This only the 2nd one I've seen, ironically the other was a BMW too. Looks like a big pot hole hit. Is he saying he hit nothing?
OEM Rays are great quality wheels... not very pretty and the offset sucks IMO.

jshare1 08-10-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 3281452)
:iagree: This only the 2nd one I've seen, ironically the other was a BMW too. Looks like a big pot hole hit. Is he saying he hit nothing?
OEM Rays are great quality wheels... not very pretty and the offset sucks IMO.

Thats what Im saying, I have a hard time believing just rolling a rim would sustain that damage, hitting a pot hole and having a sudden spike in pressure to a specific area, yes

JARblue 08-10-2015 06:13 PM

I'd be interested to see the front of the rim - it looks like there wasn't much, if any, damage there. Hard to imagine an impact causing that kind of damage to the inside of the wheel and the barrel without also significantly damaging the face of the wheel. I guess they could have clipped the edge of a pothole or something.


Aesthetics are subjective. And very rarely do parts work for both aesthetics and performance - they are often contradicting unless you are spending money for high dollar parts (e.g. CF hood is going to weigh more than stock hood unless you pay the premium for dry carbon). So if you're changing the wheels for the looks, then performance shouldn't really come into play. Not much racing is done on showroom floors.

And the offsets are not ideal, I agree. But it's hard to justify spending the thousands of dollars for wheels equal in quality in terms of performance just to correct the offset. Once again, performance shouldn't really come into consideration because parts made for aesthetic reasons will often have zero or even a negative impact on performance.

Aviator44 08-10-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 3280612)
"The wheel could have had a some congregated defects in the lattice structure of the alloy that caused an amplified stress crack that propagated over time. Then if introduced to a large stress, the material defects agglomerate even more leading to crack propagation and subsequent plastic deformation. Very interesting to know the result of forgestar's failure analysis."

That is completely and technically correct. Plastic deformation due to fatigue would also be possible explanation. Without a sudden, increased, point stress the crack may have reached a point unable to withstand even normal rotational and road impact stresses thus leading to structural failure. If in fact the wheel failed under normal driving conditions this would be plausible.

Mike 08-10-2015 09:53 PM

looks like he hit something. my OEM BMW wheels looked like that when I hit a piece of granite in the road in the dark.
http://imageshack.com/a/img674/7637/uR3Sr6.jpg

I have been tracking on my forgestars and will continue to do so.

EVOHUNTER 08-11-2015 09:12 AM

honestly, I see like 3 bmws a week with cracked wheels. (our roads are the *****)

Those 335is with the 19" m wheels and a 255/30R19 runflats.

Ive had one customer replace 3 of them at 1190$ a wheel.

He was fed up with it so We put him into a replica BMW wheel and he hasn't had a issue since. lol

Also, I highly doubt that wheel just let go under normal driving conditions.

Something was hit etc pothole.. to cause a few cracks and take away from the structure. I don't care how crappy the wheel is, it wont just taco under normal driving conditions lol.

TerribleONE 08-11-2015 09:14 AM

Yikes

Mike 08-12-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3281983)
honestly, I see like 3 bmws a week with cracked wheels. (our roads are the *****)

Those 335is with the 19" m wheels and a 255/30R19 runflats.

Ive had one customer replace 3 of them at 1190$ a wheel.

yeah, I had to make an insurance claim with that one!


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