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rbratton 10-18-2009 09:21 PM

Equal Size Tires on all 4 Corners
 
I recently purchased another set of stock 19" wheels and tires and was planning to use one set on the street and one set on the track. Now I'm thinking of running one set of the rears on the front and one on the back with the stock 275 width tires. After fitting and test driving tonight, it seems like it is going to work. I'm just a little concerned about rubbing in the front with the suspension under load.

Has any one else tried this? Any thoughts or warnings? I'm heading to Putnam Park and intend to try this out next weekend.

Mike 10-18-2009 10:01 PM

It should be fine. I run275/35/18s all around, but they are 1" shorter than stock.

vehl 10-19-2009 03:42 AM

will that mean the front tyres will look 'fatter' than the rears cos the front wheels are 9' and the rears are 10'?

Mike 10-19-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vehl (Post 243313)
will that mean the front tyres will look 'fatter' than the rears cos the front wheels are 9' and the rears are 10'?

I'm sure he will be getting another set of wheels for them. I run 18x9.5 all around with my setup.

rbratton 10-20-2009 10:39 PM

Actually, I have four rear wheels (10") with 275 tires all the way around. I'd like to get another set of 18" wheels, but not finding a decent deal on a light racing wheels...

rbratton 10-26-2009 02:03 PM

I tracked the car with stock 10" wide wheels and 275 tires all the way around this weekend at Putnam Park. The decreased offset in the 10" wheels pushed the tires just outside the wheel wells, but doesn't cause any clearance issues. Performance wise, it was a drastic improvement over the stock tire setup. Turn in was much better, the car handled fairly neutral and I could easily get oversteer on corner exit as needed.

ChrisSlicks 10-26-2009 02:49 PM

I run a 275/35 up front on a 9" rim and there is a ton of clearance, especially after adding the SPC camber kit (which also sharpened the turn-in). Even if I did 10" all around I think I would keep a little size stagger as it lets you drive into corners a little deeper. I can still get both lift-off and power-on oversteer with a 275 front and a 305 rear.

CrownR426 10-26-2009 04:28 PM

I don't think that's a good idea LOL

Island_370 10-26-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rbratton (Post 252960)
I tracked the car with stock 10" wide wheels and 275 tires all the way around this weekend at Putnam Park. The decreased offset in the 10" wheels pushed the tires just outside the wheel wells, but doesn't cause any clearance issues. Performance wise, it was a drastic improvement over the stock tire setup. Turn in was much better, the car handled fairly neutral and I could easily get oversteer on corner exit as needed.

Is Putnam still a high abrasive track surface? I really enjoy that track, but it eats tires. Turn one is soooo fast.

rbratton 10-26-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 253213)
I don't think that's a good idea LOL

Yeah, I think 275s are a bit wide for 9" wheels.

rbratton 10-26-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Island_370 (Post 253447)
Is Putnam still a high abrasive track surface? I really enjoy that track, but it eats tires. Turn one is soooo fast.

It is pretty abrasive, but there's a lot of grip and very fast. Turn 1 is awesome when you take it just right!

Mike 10-26-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rbratton (Post 253518)
Yeah, I think 275s are a bit wide for 9" wheels.

I ran 275/40-17s on my 350z with 9" wheels no problem.

ChrisSlicks 10-26-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 253577)
I ran 275/40-17s on my 350z with 9" wheels no problem.

Yep, been running them all year, been working great.

rbratton 10-26-2009 08:09 PM

You can certainly do it, but it's on the lower end of what is recommended. I'm no expert on this, but understand that tire width should be generally the same width of your wheel. A little difference each way is acceptable, but a tire that is much wider than your wheel will result in a more rounded contact patch. Ideally you want your contact patch as flat as possible. On a car with a lot of negative camber, round isn't as bad. A 275 tire is 10.82 inches wide and fits nicely on a 10" wheel.

ChrisSlicks 10-26-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rbratton (Post 253596)
You can certainly do it, but it's on the lower end of what is recommended. I'm no expert on this, but understand that tire width should be generally the same width of your wheel. A little difference each way is acceptable, but a tire that is much wider than your wheel will result in a more rounded contact patch. Ideally you want your contact patch as flat as possible. On a car with a lot of negative camber, round isn't as bad. A 275 tire is 10.82 inches wide and fits nicely on a 10" wheel.

It's not ideal for the street but works nicely at the track. The "roundness" is greatly reduced under high load, and can be refined with tire pressure. Negative camber increase is a requirement on this car, especially the front, for non-street driving. About -2.5 for track seems to be about perfect, could probably go to -3.0 for auto-x.


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